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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Pj on February 27, 2011, 03:34:24 pm
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If hot water is so good... How come there are so few installers? How come hardly anyone on here talks about it?
Is it all a secret?
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Pj there is a whole section devoted to hot issues over on the acs forum
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Its a secret
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having a hot is like having the clap!
youve either got it or you havent
and Ive got it ;D ;D ;D ;D
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If hot water is so good... How come there are so few installers? How come hardly anyone on here talks about it?
Is it all a secret?
Wait till the next time the temps hit minus 10 and then see what everyone talks about ;D
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I use hot all year round not just when its cold
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actually got to use my fogwash this week, had a few 1st cleans.
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A couple of the main WFP suppliers sell expensive diesel fired add-on water heaters as they are the easy option as van insurance issues generally do not arise.
However, whilst many DIYer's have opted for the cheaper option of gas fired heaters, there is still the issue with regard to gas bottle storage in the van, procedure and a proper exhaust facility. Many shortcut the exhaust issue by mounting the boiler on their back doors and leaving them open to vent the boiler.
Peter Fogwill has a boiler on Ebay (or did have) for about £190.00 excluding delivery, and gas bottle, and was expecting to sell a complete DIY kit with insurance approval by the end of January 2011. It's now the end of February - nothing. I'm sure there are more issues to fitting an approved gas heater system than it first appears.
The gas carrying rules for caravans are easy to comply with. A gas bottle on the front drawbar mounted outside the living/sleeping quarters vented to the atmosphere is what is required. The same rule applies to motor homes. They have gas bottle storage in a compartment that is sealed to the inside, vented and only accessible from the outside.
This is where the problem is - carrying a gas bottle, even properly secured, inside the van goes against the regulations.
It is less of a problem if you have proper LPG tanks fitted underneath your van, but there is a ground clearance requirement - I can't remember the figures, but I couldn't fit tanks under the chassis of my Citroen Relay as it sits down too low when my 650l tank is full. Most tanks that are fitted underneath are fitted to 4 x 4's which have high ground clearance.
You could have a tank fitted inside your van by an approved installer, but these are usually designed for fuel guzzling petrol engines so tend to be quite big and take up a lot of valuable space. Theses tanks are designed to have sealed venting covers over their fittings that will direct any escaping gas to the outside of the vehicle. Both under chassis and internal tanks have a life of 10 years and they then need to be replaced then. They will also need an annual inspection that they still meet safety standards and a certificate of compliance is issued by an authorised person.
The plus to having an LPG tank fitted is that they are filled at your local Autogas petrol station and the gas is cheaper than the 'bottled' gas.
Oh, just because you have a properly fitted system by an approved staller doesn't mean that you current insurer is guaranteed to insure your van with it.
Spruce
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Is this all anyone has to say on the hot issue?
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What is ACS?another window cleaning forum?What the official website?Cheers
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Spruce, while i understand your statement and it's important that you are covered by insurance i noticed
the local farrier parked by the stables the other day, in his van is a full set of blacksmith tools inc. a fully fired up
furnace with a large LPG bottle strapped inside - so would we assume he's uninsured OR it is possible to carry
and use LPG this way ?
ACS
http://acsforums.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?board=windows
Darran
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Hot is great like wfp compared to trad. Gas fired is cheap and if you have to pay for water on a meter then the water saved will make a good start in covering the cost of the gas. Not just good for first cleans as the speed increase on standard cleans is great. Supple hoses are great however the stretchy hoses are annoying. You would also need to be an idiot to make windows spot using hot.
Simon.
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im sorry but using hot on everything is a waste of time and money
well at least we all have a new topic to argue over - cold vs hot! :D
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Once you've used hot water for window cleaning, you'll never go back to cold .
it's like going back to ladder. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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