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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: weetot on February 15, 2011, 06:17:30 pm
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Hi all
Anyone lost their Iceland store? My mate lost his to-day, the manageress came out whilst he was finishing cleaning them, and was told each store were to clean their own windies from now on, and that the staff have to do it!!
There are buckets squeegees and telescopic poles on the way from head office for each and every store?
any thoughts on this?
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like everthing now cut backs
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Yeh, though he did ask her how she was gonna do the sign once per month?? :(
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they dont think of the full picture its like a house you clean say my husband going to do them so you can leave them but within a couple of months they ask you back and they have never been done
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ive just spoke to my mate whos wife works at iceland and the store she works in as allso got rid of there window cleaner , the reason they are now using in store cleaners IS NOT for cut backs .
she was telling me that most of the stores are designed the same with same amount of windows and the prices being charged by window cleaners as been looked at by head office , the price diffrence from store to store as made them decide to use in house cleaners .
the example she gave me was the store she works at was charged £35 for once a month , another store around 3 miles away was charged at £28 for being cleaned twice a month . both these stores have the same amount of windows .
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New manageress told me last week.
Can't see this going down too well with the staff,they have already had their hours cut,so cant see them being too pleased having to do their windows too.
It's getting worse by the day for commercial windies...........
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iam due at mine on saturday so we will have to see what happens. i do mine weekly and charge £15 per visit. so £60 per month for me.
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another chain i think will be
approching a national contractor soon
;)
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I'm due at mine on thur so i expect good news.
Same price as mine,plus sign once a month.
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another chain i think will be
approching a national contractor soon
;)
Gav, Iceland went to a national for about 10 years between late 80's. I lost 2 of them then, but like I say it lasted about 10 years then the national got paid off, and the staff to go out and look for a bloke on the street with a soapy bucket, and its been like that up til'now >:(
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It will be like it again when things pick up,their work is laughable at best!!v ;)
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;D
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:o :o i've got 2 to do tomorrow morning-can't wait ??? they binned me when they went to a national years ago and then came and asked me to do them at same price as befor!!!!! yeah right. Any way, takes longer for the fat git manager at 1 to get my dosh than it takes me to do the windows so not too worried :P
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told mine to b done by staff .in 2 wks time .olso told my waterstone store to b done every 2 wks instead of wkly .
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hi all i have just lost one of my mcdonlds same thing the maintanence man has got to do it it happening all round i think.
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We cleaned a couple of Iceland stores today and wasn't told anything about this; just got paid as normal.
Maybe we're just too good to get rid of ;D
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went to my 2 icelands today :'( binned of again, cleaner has to do them ::) she was well peed off about it. Apparently they are getting trained on friday by watching a dvd!!! Laughed my head off!
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Sorry to hear that, its not good. >:(
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What may happen is the the staff may end up paying out there own pockets to save doing them therselves ;)
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Could do, but theres nothing worse when you go in the shop after cleaning it, then the staff are having a whipround! :P
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We cleaned a couple of Iceland stores today and wasn't told anything about this; just got paid as normal.
Maybe we're just too good to get rid of ;D
takes a while for news to filter down to Plymouth :D
;D nice
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if all the stores are the same size with same number of windows why don't they just agree a frequency and rate at head office and inform the stores what it is. seems easier to me?
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what is the training video how to use a magnetic window cleaner
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I think it must be how to apply Fairy to a mophead, attach said mophead to pole, dunk in water and rub.
They are also training them on how to register for CIU forum (Non-Cleaning Related Topics) section, cos when they get sick of cleaning their own store in the bleak winter, they can get on here and have a good laugh ;D.
Or maybe how to heat a tank in the winter. :P
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I got 3 Iceland stores, collected them today, nothing was said, will wait and see what happens in the coming weeks........Another one gone to a national, wont have many left at this rate ::)
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5th march is when the staff take over,was talking to their inhouse cleaner todays,he's not best pleased as they have almost halved his hours down a week :o
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who said this was not cut backs
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If its any help to any of you guys, I will ring head office tomorrow and find out whats going on, if you guys are cleaning them already? I would have to put it across though as a united front??? I can find out whats going on with regards to price difference etc. Just an offer thats all
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Go for it Kate ;)
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No probs I will
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If its any help to any of you guys, I will ring head office tomorrow and find out whats going on, if you guys are cleaning them already? I would have to put it across though as a united front??? I can find out whats going on with regards to price difference etc. Just an offer thats all
I don't do any Iceland stores but that sounds a good idea kate. Only because I am a nosey sod and would like to know what is happening.
Even if they gave a price it would be hard to do much as only a small % of window cleaners use forums, so it would not be a united front really.
But go ahead, phone them anyway. Oh and by the way while you are on the phone ask them if they plan on getting licenses for their in house cleaners in Scotland?
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If its any help to any of you guys, I will ring head office tomorrow and find out whats going on, if you guys are cleaning them already? I would have to put it across though as a united front??? I can find out whats going on with regards to price difference etc. Just an offer thats all
iam sure they will just change ther company policy just for you. lol. sorry who are you again??
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Yeh Stu's right, he is a nosey git.. ;D
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If you guys that do Iceland can let me know whose doing what and where then least I have some facts and figures, I will ring them, I need to know the extent of loss when I ring tomorrow.
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I will give it a go thats all I can do guys
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Once you find out all of the prices, can you email them to me please Kate ;)
Dean.
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Once you find out all of the prices, can you email them to me please Kate ;)
Dean.
;D thats what I was thinking
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I just need to know whos doing what where,
I need to go with facts and figures - or should I say an average if somebody is charging x and another person is charging Y thats fine, but Im going to ring and find out what the problem is - if its erratic charging and they dont tally up. I need to find out what will suit them on a national basis
Hope that helps :P
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maybe its me ,but i cant see the glamour about doing commercials,especially food chains etc
it appears to be so cut throat but then ive not tried them so cant knock it ;D
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When an employee signs their employment contract this will include a detail of their remit, (job they are required to do). I doubt any of Iceland's employees would have cleaning the windows written into the remit. However, if they are not part of any union then they would have to fight this themselves. Most would just give in and go out and clean the windows to keep the peace and their job.
It's tough on commercial windies but high street retail shops are really struggling to make a decent profit
in this day and age. Supermarkets are slowly choking them all to death and we just have to look elsewhere to find work. This is just the way it is today and will only get worse and worse. So just go find some good rich residential if you are wise.
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Ok
So if i ring them tomorrow will you guys come up with a standard across the board where it looks like its the same charge. If i get to talk to the decision maker that will be fun on its own
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When an employee signs their employment contract this will include a detail of their remit, (job they are required to do). I doubt any of Iceland's employees would have cleaning the windows written into the remit. However, if they are not part of any union then they would have to fight this themselves. Most would just give in and go out and clean the windows to keep the peace and their job.
It's tough on commercial windies but high street retail are really struggling to make a decent profit
in this day and age. Supermarkets are slowly choking them all to death and we just have to look elsewhere to find work. This is just the way it is today and will only get worse and worse. So just go find some good rich residential if you are wise.
most savy employers get round that Ronnie by sticking a paragraph that says "and any other associated task" or something along them lines.
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what about emloyee insurance does that cover window cleaning
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what about emloyee insurance does that cover window cleaning
as long as they inform them it will, but good point, I wonder if they have taking all this into consideration and done the relevant risk assessment for their staff.
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not many insurance companies cover employeess for window cleaning
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i can't see why Iceland have their windows cleaned anyways,
I couldn't imagine Kerry Katona wannabees in pink shell suits being to fussed about dirty windows.
...please don't hurt me. 'twas only a joke ::)
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did ours tuesday, nothing said - yet, but sure it wont be long before were told not to bother if there going to do it themselfs,
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just a thought, but could the stores that aren't making money, and perhaps being slightly over charged, being told to reign in costs and some are being left to do business as usual?
Just a thought
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Stu, I'd be very surprised if a single shop of Iceland were losing money. But if they were, I'd be even more surprised if they could claw it back by getting rid of the window polisher!! ;D
Jobs like McDonalds or iceland here are cleaned by the cheapest firm they can get. It's all about price. Don't know how it goes in UK, but if an Iceland store brings in 60 quid a month, that's easy to replace with 4 or 5 domestics surely.
Good luck anyway guys.
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We lost KFC the same way a few years back, staff were told to do it. Went past there a few weeks back. OMG how friggin stinkin they are, I wonder how they fare when the area manager does his monthly inspection... ;D
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went in to see the manager yesterday to ask about this. he told me all iceland stores have been told they will have to do the windows themselves. a window cleaning "kit" will be supplied to each store, which will have a extending pole for reaching the high windows. due to be delivered early march.
i have been told by fellow cleaners in the town that in the past two weeks they have been asked for a price to clean the store. i charge £15 per week outside only, the manager told them if they could do it for £7.50 per week to include outside weekly cleans and once a month inside. the job was thers.... nobody took up the offer!!!
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I just need to know whos doing what where,
I need to go with facts and figures - or should I say an average if somebody is charging x and another person is charging Y thats fine, but Im going to ring and find out what the problem is - if its erratic charging and they dont tally up. I need to find out what will suit them on a national basis
Hope that helps :P
So how did it go with the phone? Did you get a result?
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Cozy I didnt ring, because it wasnt mentioned anymore so......
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Damn, waste of talent and expertise there.
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Damn, waste of talent and expertise there.
lol
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We've still not been told anything after cleaning two stores today.
One interesting point; someone suggested earlier that all Iceland stores have the same amount of windows and are the same size; not true at all. Plymouth has four stores and they are all different, so I don't know where that idea come from.
It'll be a shame if we do loose them as they're easy to do and each shop pays for the clean on the day, not something I was expecting when we took the job on, assuming we'd be sending an invoice to head office.
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Most of the guys i know who cleaned for them have been told. They are supposed to be cleaning them themselves as of 5th march. Leaving it a bit late if they haven't told you yet >:(
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Lost one of our three this morning (merthyr tydfil), havent heard off the other two, will be collecting one of the others on thursday, the other one was done on monday with nothinng said :-\
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Lost one of our three this morning (merthyr tydfil), havent heard off the other two, will be collecting one of the others on thursday, the other one was done on monday with nothinng said :-\
Maybe their waiting till March 5th when Mrs Cannybody the till lady has to put her W/C jacket and sealskinz on. ::)
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lost the one in abertillery . as from monday , south wales
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We've still not been told anything after cleaning two stores today.
One interesting point; someone suggested earlier that all Iceland stores have the same amount of windows and are the same size; not true at all. Plymouth has four stores and they are all different, so I don't know where that idea come from.
this intresting point came off me BUT i didnt say the stores have the same amout of glass .
I SAID MOST OF THE STORES are designed the same .
im only speaking on what my mates wife tells me whos been employed by iceland for 11 years and is in a trusted position within the iceland company .
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We've still not been told anything after cleaning two stores today.
One interesting point; someone suggested earlier that all Iceland stores have the same amount of windows and are the same size; not true at all. Plymouth has four stores and they are all different, so I don't know where that idea come from.
this intresting point came off me BUT i didnt say the stores have the same amout of glass .
I SAID MOST OF THE STORES are designed the same .
im only speaking on what my mates wife tells me whos been employed by iceland for 11 years and is in a trusted position within the iceland company .
Well the three I do/did are all different, similar, but all have different prices due to size, height etc
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Well we were informed this morning that after next week's clean their instore cleaners have to clean the windows too.
The manager's take on this, and he reckoned he was told this by head office, is that some "greedy" window cleaners - his words not mine - have ruined it for the others. The store he used as an example is in Exeter; I don't know who cleans it; and though he admitted it's quite big with fifteen windows he reckons the £60 each week they're being charged is a bit steep. As I've never seen the store I can't comment but we charge £10 and £12 for the two stores we clean, and each takes us about twenty / twenty five minutes each. I don't mind charging a little less when the frequancy is so high.
How he put it was for every reasonably priced window cleaner doing Iceland Stores there are more charging too much and this is what ruined it for everyone.
If this is the case I'd like to thank all the greedy sods who think they're football players and deserve to be paid as such >:(
He did also say for the tenner each week he'd rather keep us and that his cleaner will never do as good a job as we did, which was nice I guess :)
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Might still be salvageable.
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A chap I know has just lost his.
As for some greedy window cleaners charging too much sometimes its the store managers putting in false window cleaning expense claims that can cock things up, it happened to one of my jobs, I was charging £20 a month but when the manager left and a new one came in he said he couldn't afford £60 a month to have his windows cleaned, it didn't take us long to work out where the extra £40 was going!
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The cleaner from one of my lost icelands came out today while i was cleaning shop next door, "What do you put in your water so your thingy slides smoothly on the windows?"
I just couldn't resist-"Well don't tell anyone i told you but best thing to do is put a drop of vegatable oil in when you put your soap in, make sure you use cold water and only about a table spoon of oil though, works a treat" ;D ;D ;D Brrr ha ha!!!!
Can't wait till next week :P :P
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The cleaner from one of my lost icelands came out today while i was cleaning shop next door, "What do you put in your water so your thingy slides smoothly on the windows?"
I just couldn't resist-"Well don't tell anyone i told you but best thing to do is put a drop of vegatable oil in when you put your soap in, make sure you use cold water and only about a table spoon of oil though, works a treat" ;D ;D ;D Brrr ha ha!!!!
Can't wait till next week :P :P
;D
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Fantastic miscontractor and an entry for post of the year
Charge too much and it just doesn't last long
Great post and if the cap fits any of you guys wear it but mind it doesn't choke you
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So who does Exeter? Surely between all you southern guys you can find out and name and shame. Or at least give a small clue.
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Fantastic miscontractor and an entry for post of the year
Charge too much and it just doesn't last long
Great post and if the cap fits any of you guys wear it but mind it doesn't choke you
Blimey; thank you. I'd like to thank my mum and dad, my family, my agent, my ........
I've never won an award before; will it be collar and tie / red carpet???
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Right then, collected one of my other Iceland stores today(Aberdare), nothing was said by the manager, so I mentioned what has happened with Merthyr Tydfil and the others that have been mentioned here and he said he knows nothing about it has not been told anything??????WTF.
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That's because nobody likes him so the rest of the managers are keeping it a secret from him :)
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The cleaner from one of my lost icelands came out today while i was cleaning shop next door, "What do you put in your water so your thingy slides smoothly on the windows?"
I just couldn't resist-"Well don't tell anyone i told you but best thing to do is put a drop of vegatable oil in when you put your soap in, make sure you use cold water and only about a table spoon of oil though, works a treat" ;D ;D ;D Brrr ha ha!!!!
Can't wait till next week :P :P
Dave, youre a bad man!!!!! ;D
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http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?ie=UTF8&q=iceland+exeter&fb=1&gl=uk&hq=iceland&hnear=Exeter&cid=0,0,5266449539645220970&ll=50.72614,-3.525624&spn=0,0.001725&z=19&layer=c&cbll=50.726076,-3.525721&panoid=h8izi1rWRDJYxHL0NpRExQ&cbp=12,335,,0,5
£60 is a bit steep for this store in exeter
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The cleaner from one of my lost icelands came out today while i was cleaning shop next door, "What do you put in your water so your thingy slides smoothly on the windows?"
I just couldn't resist-"Well don't tell anyone i told you but best thing to do is put a drop of vegatable oil in when you put your soap in, make sure you use cold water and only about a table spoon of oil though, works a treat" ;D ;D ;D Brrr ha ha!!!!
Can't wait till next week :P :P
I like it.. ;D
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http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?ie=UTF8&q=iceland+exeter&fb=1&gl=uk&hq=iceland&hnear=Exeter&cid=0,0,5266449539645220970&ll=50.72614,-3.525624&spn=0,0.001725&z=19&layer=c&cbll=50.726076,-3.525721&panoid=h8izi1rWRDJYxHL0NpRExQ&cbp=12,335,,0,5
£60 is a bit steep for this store in exeter
Is this a weekly price?
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according to the manager that was a weekly price dean ??? at least that was what was posted on here could be a load of horlicks
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The cleaner from one of my lost icelands came out today while i was cleaning shop next door, "What do you put in your water so your thingy slides smoothly on the windows?"
I just couldn't resist-"Well don't tell anyone i told you but best thing to do is put a drop of vegatable oil in when you put your soap in, make sure you use cold water and only about a table spoon of oil though, works a treat" ;D ;D ;D Brrr ha ha!!!!
Can't wait till next week :P :P
That's evil - but funny ;D .
Should have told him to put half a litre in though.
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http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?ie=UTF8&q=iceland+exeter&fb=1&gl=uk&hq=iceland&hnear=Exeter&cid=0,0,5266449539645220970&ll=50.72614,-3.525624&spn=0,0.001725&z=19&layer=c&cbll=50.726076,-3.525721&panoid=h8izi1rWRDJYxHL0NpRExQ&cbp=12,335,,0,5
£60 is a bit steep for this store in exeter
If thats a weekly price on that, there is something going wrong in this business, there seems to be no consistency here at all, just pure greed/p155 taking. I suspect that is probably monthly price. £15 a week maybe?
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i quoted for window cleaning at the exeter store 6 months ago and £60 a week is a joke more like that is for a month. i think someones having a laugh.
i lost my store in Honiton this week but picked up 2 new residentials. thats life