Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Carpet Dawg on February 12, 2011, 05:39:09 pm
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hello hello
Ok, so i have sourced two vans that i am going to be buying tomorrow! well putting a deposit down, then it'll go through a servicing, MOT and 6 months road tax.
Both are Transits, white, same age, both side doors + back doors and both have full service history. And no visual sign of rust that i cold see and i had a good look!
Van 1, Milage: 36,500
For: Full ply lined in the back with factory fitted bulk head.
Against: high roof which i dont need it but van with signage will stand out better i guess... so maybe a plus point?? And also a little longer so harder to get parked?
Van 2, Milage: 33,300 << a plus
For: normal sized transit << maybe easier to get parked?
Against: no ply in the back or bulk head..... also got glass on the two back doors. To get hem tinted and caged AND to get the back plyed i guess will cost another £300 maybe?
Both vans are very clean and tidy.
Which would you buy??
ooooooooooooopppss forgt to sa, both the same price!
cheers
Tony
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hi dawg
I would go for the second one and try to barter a bit then hopefully save a few quid and spend that on your plylining etc...
good luck!
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I would look for evidence of re-spray work, arches etc. I'd go for the bigger one given the choice, I have a lwb high roof movano and had no trouble parking etc.
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Is the bigger one medium or long wheel base ? semi or high roof ? what is the engine bhp f each one?
Transits have a huge range and variety of specs , I have a 75hp swb medium roof , this is because I want fuel economy (40mpg) to be able to stand up in the back and not too long for parking etc.
ThE BIGGER ONES ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT ,BEING REAR WHEEL DRIVE AND HAVING 2.4 ENGINES INSTEAD OF 2.0 .. Sorry about caps
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High roof is great due to being able to stand up in it.
Cleaning Doctor vans have a work surface built into the shelving so that you can stand inside and make up your solutions. Great idea and it keeps you dry during bad weather.
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Is the bigger one medium or long wheel base ? semi or high roof ? what is the engine bhp f each one?
Transits have a huge range and variety of specs , I have a 75hp swb medium roof , this is because I want fuel economy (40mpg) to be able to stand up in the back and not too long for parking etc.
ThE BIGGER ONES ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT ,BEING REAR WHEEL DRIVE AND HAVING 2.4 ENGINES INSTEAD OF 2.0 .. Sorry about caps
:o i'm bamboozled! lol
Its a long wheel base Jason. Its TDI 85PS Diesel SWB <<< what ever that means. And its high roofed even tho it says medium in the ad! I cant see it being any higher if that really is the medium one!
Simon, the normal sized transit has got some patches of "cover up" near the wheel arches. Will this get worse you recon? Never had any rust probs myself before so not too sure with it all.
Yeah standing up is what i liked with it too.
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SWB means Short wheel base , told you it was confusing !
You cannot get a high roof SWB , the high roof one has what looks likes 2 layers of extra roof on it. its it a tdci? or tddi?
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Wonder if they do a swb 4 x4 transit?
Shaun
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Wonder if they do a swb 4 x4 transit?
Shaun
Yes they just brought it out , 26grand , but it is 200ps !
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Confusing ??? S = short M = medium L = long ;D
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I got a sore neck looking up at that! thought thats how high as it would get!
Just says TDI. I take it thats not very easy on the fuel?
http://vans.autotrader.co.uk/stock-item-id/at8a60d6e02de6cd12012e08669bc77e09/advert
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i have got a high roof medium wheel base my mate who lives next door has the long wheel base neither he nor i would consider a normal height roof and whilst you do have to pick out your space in car parks i can't say parking is really an issue. glass rear doors would put me off having the bulkhead is better security imo
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self edit ;)
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looks like a mwb to me exactly the same as mine
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i have got a high roof medium wheel base my mate who lives next door has the long wheel base neither he nor i would consider a normal height roof and whilst you do have to pick out your space in car parks i can't say parking is really an issue. glass rear doors would put me off having the bulkhead is better security imo
Good to know, alot of my work is in town center so alot of tight pre marked parking spaces. Would hate to buy it just to then struggle all day finding already limited parking spaces...
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I paid 1500 a year ago for a 52 plate , ,granted it had more miles , but it is the equivilent of a year older than that one you are thinking of is now. That one is a MWB
That is worth 3k tops , plus I can see worse rust than mine under the front arches.
For that price you can get a new shape , much quieter ,and smoother to drive , look more modern too
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Full Service History, Factory fitted bulk head, One Owner, Ply lined, SWB, 1 Years M.O.T, 6 Months Road Tax, Serviced, Reverse Warning Beeper, Roof Rails With Roller, Roof Rails With Roller, Roof Rails With Roller, Remote Central Locking. This van is in an exelant condition and I have a choice of 3 to vans to select from all in exelant condition and low millage from 4500 to 4750 +vat MUST SEE AND BE QUICK £4,695 +VAT
;D
Its a bargain its got 3 roof rails with rollers ??? has low millage ??? and is in exelant ??? condition. I would question the mileage at 36k seems very low to me. Also its nearly another grand on top if your not vat registered.
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It does have a bit of rust there but to be fair to it its only there where there's a bit of rust. the other arches are fine from what i have seen.
I've been looking for a few months now and this is by far the best i have seen Jas. New shaped ones cost minimum £7k around here. I wouldn't mind paying that but at that price its usualy has 50k + on the clock.
I am part exchanging my van for £1700 << transit connect with 80k on the clock. So getting the either van for £3,700 after VAT. comes with MOT, 6 months tax and full service.
Is this a crap deal then?? I cant see my van getting more than 2k if i sold privatly.
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Its an ex council van and has all the paper work to go with it. So i presume the milage is kosher.
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tony
if i was turning over what you claim your turning over then i'd buy new mate, that thing will fall apart in a couple of years.
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It is slightly over your budget , but I reckon you could get a deal on this , very modern looking , new shape , and very economical on fuel . TM ready too .
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Citroen-Relay-2-2HDi-2007-LOW-MILES-/160540700930?pt=UK_Commercial_Trucks&hash=item2560f8b102
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Buy new!! I hate spending money lol Plus I am on the look out for a buffer still and also want the van wrapped which will cost ££££ :'( :'(
Previous two transit connects had no problems what so ever, apart from the water pump leaking and screwing up the alternator. Maybe i got lucky. Only buying another van as i need more room.
Usualy change them every three years. Buying new and your losing money as soon as you drive it out of the dealership.
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TM ready ??? can the transit not hold a tm ???
tony
if i was turning over what you claim your turning over then i'd buy new mate, that thing will fall apart in a couple of years.
Whats he claiming he turns over Derek? if the mileage is genuine then it seems a good buy and from what I know a transit will not fall apart, the majority of older vans I see on the road are transits and not other makes.
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It is slightly over your budget , but I reckon you could get a deal on this , very modern looking , new shape , and very economical on fuel . TM ready too .
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Citroen-Relay-2-2HDi-2007-LOW-MILES-/160540700930?pt=UK_Commercial_Trucks&hash=item2560f8b102
I've only been looking for transits and vaxhalls. Thats all I know and used when it comes to vans. Are Citroens reilable? That does look more modern and berwick upon tweed anit too far away.
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Tony you're a man after my own heart I hate spending money also it's a bad habbit the Mrs has got into I am trying to unsuccessfully wean her off.
Shaun
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I have a 55 reg Citroen Dispatch and its as solid as a rock.
I've just had to replace the alternator and the usual brakes and tyres. The Relay is my next choice of van.
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http://vans.autotrader.co.uk/makemodel/make/citroen/model/relay/radius/10miles/stock-item-id/at8a647b6f2de6d75e012e0f2ec4873e06/advert
No VAT
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TM ready ??? can the transit not hold a tm ???
tony
if i was turning over what you claim your turning over then i'd buy new mate, that thing will fall apart in a couple of years.
Whats he claiming he turns over Derek? if the mileage is genuine then it seems a good buy and from what I know a transit will not fall apart, the majority of older vans I see on the road are transits and not other makes.
i think it was something like £1200 to £2500 a week, which is vat registered territory, aint it tony?
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http://vans.autotrader.co.uk/makemodel/make/citroen/model/relay/radius/10miles/stock-item-id/at8a647b6f2de6d75e012e0f2ec4873e06/advert
No VAT
I am looking for a lower miler. Nice lookin va tho.
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TM ready ??? can the transit not hold a tm ???
tony
if i was turning over what you claim your turning over then i'd buy new mate, that thing will fall apart in a couple of years.
Whats he claiming he turns over Derek? if the mileage is genuine then it seems a good buy and from what I know a transit will not fall apart, the majority of older vans I see on the road are transits and not other makes.
i think it was something like £1200 to £2500 a week, which is vat registered territory, aint it tony?
It is indeed.
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Tony you're a man after my own heart I hate spending money also it's a bad habbit the Mrs has got into I am trying to unsuccessfully wean her off.
Shaun
Tell me about it! I hate spending money mainly on buisness things, other wise i anit too scrooge like :)
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Hand on heart Tony no buffer :P tell me that you have taken £2500.00 in one week for carpets, be honest now because big brother is watching and will check up on you ;D Please dont include turnover from your fake leather hose bag sales because that wouldnt be fair :-*
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Fck me! thats all Paul needed more ammunition to have a go lol lol
Had a funny feeling this would go off topic when Derek used the word "cliamed" ::)
mmmm i dont see in the title where it says lets discuss how much you turnover. How much do you make??
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It is slightly over your budget , but I reckon you could get a deal on this , very modern looking , new shape , and very economical on fuel . TM ready too .
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Citroen-Relay-2-2HDi-2007-LOW-MILES-/160540700930?pt=UK_Commercial_Trucks&hash=item2560f8b102
I've only been looking for transits and vaxhalls. Thats all I know and used when it comes to vans. Are Citroens reilable? That does look more modern and berwick upon tweed anit too far away.
What Shaun wont tell you Tony , is that he has one of these citroen relays , that says it all .
I will be having one too this year at some point.
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Fck me! thats all Paul needed more ammunition to have a go lol lol
Had a funny feeling this would go off topic when Derek used the word "cliamed" ::)
mmmm i dont see in the title where it says lets discuss how much you turnover. How much do you make??
But we just want you to have a nice van tony, and if ur turning over £2.5 k a week, depending on your outgoings, you could have a good one with all the bells and whistles if your business earnings are what you claim, but you would have to be vat registered :)
If I was in the market for a new van I personally wouldnt ask for advice on here, I would just go and buy the best I could afford, and yes it would be a transit or maybe a VW ;D
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I have turned over up to 1 million in a year before now , never paid more than 10 k on a van , I would rather spend on my own car . 5-7 K will always buy the latest model of most vans ,with low mileage . I cant see the point in paying more , unless you need to lease.
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I have turned over up to 1 million in a year before now , never paid more than 10 k on a van , I would rather spend on my own car . 5-7 K will always buy the latest model of most vans ,with low mileage . I cant see the point in paying more , unless you need to lease.
And the point is ??? If tony is doing as well as he has allegedly claimed in his cc'ng business 10k will be fine for a decent van and not have any impact on his business account. He can then spend the rest on a really nice car and a decent rotary :D
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Fck me! thats all Paul needed more ammunition to have a go lol lol
Had a funny feeling this would go off topic when Derek used the word "cliamed" ::)
mmmm i dont see in the title where it says lets discuss how much you turnover. How much do you make??
have you never swayed slightly off topic tony? or is it just not allowed on your topics? ;D i actually don't think we've gone off topic, choosing a van has quite alot to do with earnings. ;D
anyway, carrying on with the topic, definately no rear glass.
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The trouble with the transit is it has not kept up with the market. Its heavy, it rusts, it falls apart, its not cheap to fix. They say there is a new one on the way...time will tell.
I would not give a "tranny" houseroom myself..... but at the end of the day its horses for courses.
I would recomend a Renualt Traffic...mines just coming up for 3yrs old, 31000 miles and all its cost is a new set of tyres, 2nd service is still 5000 away, still returns over 30 mpg.
At the end of the day you get want you think is right for you at the time within your budget.
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I have turned over up to 1 million in a year before now , never paid more than 10 k on a van , I would rather spend on my own car . 5-7 K will always buy the latest model of most vans ,with low mileage . I cant see the point in paying more , unless you need to lease.
My sentiments exactly! Would much rather spend that cash on my own car or home furnishings or a holiday! Why spend on your business willy nilly when its not making me any extra money? ??? Unlike an advert or new machinary which can bring in more work/get the job done better/quicker. Keeping overheads as low as possible has always been my philosophy in my business.
Apart from a fan I bought last year all my gear has been bought brand new. I will be buying a rotery second hand as it will be the first time of using one and i want to see how I get on with it first. Not point in spending £700 on a new one if its just going to be sitting in my lock up....
Regarding earnings. If you actaully knew how many hours i worked a week, you'd understand that it is very possible to turnover that figure. I work 6 days a week and sometimes Sundays and very rarely get in before 6pm.
I've been doing this 11 years, not needed to advertise in 5 years, never done a leaflet drop in my puff, no promo spotting bottles, no fancy fridge magnents, just a handful of business cards to each customer. I live in a nice house in a nice area in a nice city :) I must be doing something right.
Yeah, why do they put glass on the back of vans!? thats the stupids idea in the world! If the other van didn't have glass, that would have swayed it for me.
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VW all the way -they have the best paint finishes, great drive, hold price, good impression IMO
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I Have a citreon dispatch and find its a great van tony.
I too got a bigger van as i needed the room..
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thanks guys.
I have decided to go with the smaller of the two transits. I have called a few joiners this am and will only cost £250 to fully ply line the back and fit a cage on the back window. Also will have white vinyl over it.
Also, goin to sell my connect privately. will get alot more than £1650 for it. Checking autotrader, most are selling for 3000+ VAT for the same miliage.
cheers
tony
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I think thats included a bulkhead in to i guess for that price.
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Hop you wont be seeing this too much then , this was when the water pump went.