Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: windiewasher on February 07, 2011, 03:43:38 pm
-
i've just ordered one,can't wait to try it out,can dump my superlite once and for all.
i have a vikan sill on my clx18 perfect brush.
i will put my aeriel brush on my clx 27 cant wait!
-
What's wrong with your superlight?
-
Hi guys
I was thinking of getting one of these as they have a scraper on the back of the brush looks like a good idea
and the whole range of brushs are light as well.
Regards Oliver Collins Rise & Shine Cleaning
-
i ordered one today,they look and sound good!
Hi guys
I was thinking of getting one of these as they have a scraper on the back of the brush looks like a good idea
and the whole range of brushs are light as well.
Regards Oliver Collins Rise & Shine Cleaning
-
i've just ordered one,can't wait to try it out,can dump my superlite once and for all.
i have a vikan sill on my clx18 perfect brush.
i will put my aeriel brush on my clx 27 cant wait!
SL flocked is a good brush.
Do not like the SL mono.
-
the white brush,no idea what it is but never been impressed,i prefer my vikan sill,that can clean windows and sills so easily and far better than the superlite that only tickles bird poop,one wipe with the vikan sill and its all gone!
i've just ordered one,can't wait to try it out,can dump my superlite once and for all.
i have a vikan sill on my clx18 perfect brush.
i will put my aeriel brush on my clx 27 cant wait!
SL flocked is a good brush.
Do not like the SL mono.
-
the white brush,no idea what it is but never been impressed,i prefer my vikan sill,that can clean windows and sills so easily and far better than the superlite that only tickles bird poop,one wipe with the vikan sill and its all gone!
i've just ordered one,can't wait to try it out,can dump my superlite once and for all.
i have a vikan sill on my clx18 perfect brush.
i will put my aeriel brush on my clx 27 cant wait!
SL flocked is a good brush.
Do not like the SL mono.
Some people talk so much bull on here, i have both those brushes, one is a brick the other isnt, but the brick doesnt removed poop any quicker than the SL
-
the white brush,no idea what it is but never been impressed,i prefer my vikan sill,that can clean windows and sills so easily and far better than the superlite that only tickles bird poop,one wipe with the vikan sill and its all gone!
i've just ordered one,can't wait to try it out,can dump my superlite once and for all.
i have a vikan sill on my clx18 perfect brush.
i will put my aeriel brush on my clx 27 cant wait!
SL flocked is a good brush.
Do not like the SL mono.
Some people talk so much bull on here, i have both those brushes, one is a brick the other isnt, but the brick doesnt removed poop any quicker than the SL
I agree
There are also MANY variations of the super-lite & even improved versions of a variation!
To just say "I don't like the SL" doesn't do it the justice it deserves. Which one? how old is it?
There's only one I'm not keen on out of the whole range.
-
By God it would be nice to have an unbiased opinion of one ! I can not for the life of me understand why they (tecbuk i think) did not distribute even just 1 or 2 to experienced forum members/users as if they are as good as claimed it would shine through.
Personally i simply refuse to pay out £60 appx to be a guinea pig.
-
This is my current opinion and I`ve never seen one in the flesh.
They are small,the edges of the stock are sharp corners and could potentially cause damage, a forum member Alex, says they are brilliant but also touts all things tecbuk including a book they sell which he purports to own and is full of great info though he would rather not share this,there are many variations,nylon,polyester etc and no detailed info as to why they differ,the site is not user friendly,they are a massive price,though recently seem to have got cheaper but then this seems to just be one type of brush.
-
Personally I have used the following -
Vikan oval flocked
vikan rectangle (red) mono
Vikan rectangle (red and green) flocked
vikan sill mono
vikan sill flocked
original gaz brush (yellow crinkle salmon I think)
bentley brush
gardiners SL mono white very first edition
gardiners SL mono whie, a later edition, not sure which one
Gardiners xtreme mono xtra long
Gardiners SL DT FLOCKED 0 DEGREE
Gardiners SL DT FLOCKED standard
Gardiner SL DT flocked 15 degree
My personal favourite is the SL DT 15 degree, followed by the standard.
-
I think the sl flocked 15 degree is an excellent brush, much better than the mono versions of the brush.
-
I`m using a SL DT 15 Degree and it feels good and i am currently first cleaning every day,can`t see me taking it off as when i get round to maintenance cleans i`ll trust it.
-
i've just ordered one,can't wait to try it out,can dump my superlite once and for all.
i have a vikan sill on my clx18 perfect brush.
i will put my aeriel brush on my clx 27 cant wait!
which one did you order
-
This is my current opinion and I`ve never seen one in the flesh.
They are small,the edges of the stock are sharp corners and could potentially cause damage, a forum member Alex, says they are brilliant but also touts all things tecbuk including a book they sell which he purports to own and is full of great info though he would rather not share this,there are many variations,nylon,polyester etc and no detailed info as to why they differ,the site is not user friendly,they are a massive price,though recently seem to have got cheaper but then this seems to just be one type of brush.
the corners are ok I use the brushes on georgian windows
no need to rush, these brushes clean faster than anything you have used before
move onto the next window much sooner than you would normally
as for the price of the aerial brush, the quality cant be nmatched, not even half way
to be fair all the other brushes are cheap to make, so its not fair to compare
the brushes do differ the black ones bristles are about 3 times thicker than the red
as for the book its about running cost priceing increasing profits customer base
if you already got the answer mate dont bother buying it
-
Red brush
How good are they?
i've just ordered one,can't wait to try it out,can dump my superlite once and for all.
i have a vikan sill on my clx18 perfect brush.
i will put my aeriel brush on my clx 27 cant wait!
which one did you order
-
I`d like one but am afraid of being wrong and believing sales patter especially as they are not cheap.
Alex, you definitely definitely definitely have some form of connection with tecbuk so how am i supposed to believe your comments on the brushes are 100% objective.
If i was sure there was a better brush out there then the price does not become the most important factor.
Personally i shall hold back for now as something just doesn`t feel quite right,maybe its a lack of independent feedback or just the fact there isn`t any feedback except from Alex.
How about tecbuk explaining why a black bristle is 3 times the thickness of a red one or why some bristles are nylon and some polyester,confuse em you lose em and thats also whats happening with me(easy done).
-
This is my current opinion and I`ve never seen one in the flesh.
They are small,the edges of the stock are sharp corners and could potentially cause damage, a forum member Alex, says they are brilliant but also touts all things tecbuk including a book they sell which he purports to own and is full of great info though he would rather not share this,there are many variations,nylon,polyester etc and no detailed info as to why they differ,the site is not user friendly,they are a massive price,though recently seem to have got cheaper but then this seems to just be one type of brush.
the corners are ok I use the brushes on georgian windows
no need to rush, these brushes clean faster than anything you have used before
move onto the next window much sooner than you would normally
as for the price of the aerial brush, the quality cant be nmatched, not even half way
to be fair all the other brushes are cheap to make, so its not fair to compare
the brushes do differ the black ones bristles are about 3 times thicker than the red
as for the book its about running cost priceing increasing profits customer base
if you already got the answer mate dont bother buying it
I can see how a brush can be so much quicker unless you have been using a brush with cotton bristles. Most windows barely need a scrub anyway, so i very much doubt a window could be cleaner any quicker with this brush than most other brushes!
-
This is my current opinion and I`ve never seen one in the flesh.
They are small,the edges of the stock are sharp corners and could potentially cause damage, a forum member Alex, says they are brilliant but also touts all things tecbuk including a book they sell which he purports to own and is full of great info though he would rather not share this,there are many variations,nylon,polyester etc and no detailed info as to why they differ,the site is not user friendly,they are a massive price,though recently seem to have got cheaper but then this seems to just be one type of brush.
the corners are ok I use the brushes on georgian windows
no need to rush, these brushes clean faster than anything you have used before
move onto the next window much sooner than you would normally
as for the price of the aerial brush, the quality cant be nmatched, not even half way
to be fair all the other brushes are cheap to make, so its not fair to compare
the brushes do differ the black ones bristles are about 3 times thicker than the red
as for the book its about running cost priceing increasing profits customer base
if you already got the answer mate dont bother buying it
Could you tell us how much all these "others" cost to manufacture please Alex?
My guess is you can't.
I agree with some others here, something don't add up & I think it's quite obvious what's going on.
The OTT sales patter don't do you any favours! ::) ;D ;D ;D
-
i have to admit that they do look well made compared to the SL, the stock on the SL bows slightly and you can see the bristles coming through the back of the stock, but that has no effect on the cleaning ability, so the tecbuk brush does look very well made, but that does seem to be reflected in the price :(
-
Can't remember the superpoope being much cheaper time you add vat into it.
I paid about £46 for this brush from rs and with that you get the scraper etc
ate=1297190102]
i have to admit that they do look well made compared to the SL, the stock on the SL bows slightly and you can see the bristles coming through the back of the stock, but that has no effect on the cleaning ability, so the tecbuk brush does look very well made, but that does seem to be reflected in the price :(
-
Tecbuc are i think doing themselves a slight misjustice here,
only the 1st brush is going to set you back £50 as you get an angle adaptor small extension and scraper ( not sure
if thats really required ) however you can get a replacement brush head for £25.00 - thats right in the ball park
to challenge on price..
prehaps an intro offer is in order ??
Darran
-
i have to admit that they do look well made compared to the SL, the stock on the SL bows slightly and you can see the bristles coming through the back of the stock, but that has no effect on the cleaning ability, so the tecbuk brush does look very well made, but that does seem to be reflected in the price :(
This for me is a big issue on the xtra long xtreme SL brush. Because of the bow in the stock I feel I have to press much harder to get the bristles on either end on the brush to come into contact with the glass at enough force to actually clean the glass. Of course the middle of the brush is rammed onto the glass at this stage.
-
is the extreme made out of the same material ?
if its bowed could you not apply some pressure to the ends so it curves the other way ??
then the ends would come into contact first, if the extreme is bowed thats quite poor ..
Darran
-
its not the extreme, its a standard SL DT mono, it was a shop demo i got cheep from gardiners, but its slightly bowed, have tried forcing it the other way but no joy, i might try warming it up and bend it then, see if it works.
-
Red brush
How good are they?
i've just ordered one,can't wait to try it out,can dump my superlite once and for all.
i have a vikan sill on my clx18 perfect brush.
i will put my aeriel brush on my clx 27 cant wait!
which one did you order
very good, thats the one i would have recommend to get
as lee gls said in his post
your customers windows dont need a lot of work to get them clean
what lee gls dosent realise is the aerial brush can does this much quicker
just dont waste time over cleaning windows
get into the habit of moving straight on to the next one
you will save a lot of water, good if you are using a trolley
-
alex
are you saying there is no need to rinse with the aerial brush?
-
No need for water with the Ariel brush - it's that good. ;D
-
is the extreme made out of the same material ?
if its bowed could you not apply some pressure to the ends so it curves the other way ??
then the ends would come into contact first, if the extreme is bowed thats quite poor ..
Darran
I will try and get a pic of it up here so ou can see what I mean.
-
I have this sussed now,i might even make a little hypnotherapy tape to play while i`m asleep.
I buy the ariel brush,its fast so i become fast,its got to be good as it costs so much,i dont even know why its fast or what its made of,this doesn`t matter because now i`m fast,the price has become irrelevant,i`ll buy two, i might be twice as fast,one on top of the other,one pass cleaning,i`m smitten,will i go red or black?,black filaments 3 times thicker,maybe its 3 times faster than the red one,how fast is that then? and special window cleaning filaments stuck in a special window cleaning resiny stock,if i`m lucky this will have "Worlds Greatest Fastest Window Cleaner" written on it and then other people not just me will know what i have become,i must have this brush,Alex is the messiah.
-
i've just ordered one,can't wait to try it out,can dump my superlite once and for all.
i have a vikan sill on my clx18 perfect brush.
i will put my aeriel brush on my clx 27 cant wait!
Did you get the aerial brush Doc?
Is it any good?
-
Yes m8.looks great I'm using it tommorow so will give full report.
Looks and feels very good quality.like the scraped bit too.
i've just ordered one,can't wait to try it out,can dump my superlite once and for all.
i have a vikan sill on my clx18 perfect brush.
i will put my aeriel brush on my clx 27 cant wait!
Did you get the aerial brush Doc?
Is it any good?
-
cheers, look forward to hearing you opinion of it, not that i dont trust alex's view ;)
-
I have this sussed now,i might even make a little hypnotherapy tape to play while i`m asleep.
I buy the ariel brush,its fast so i become fast,its got to be good as it costs so much,i dont even know why its fast or what its made of,this doesn`t matter because now i`m fast,the price has become irrelevant,i`ll buy two, i might be twice as fast,one on top of the other,one pass cleaning,i`m smitten,will i go red or black?,black filaments 3 times thicker,maybe its 3 times faster than the red one,how fast is that then? and special window cleaning filaments stuck in a special window cleaning resiny stock,if i`m lucky this will have "Worlds Greatest Fastest Window Cleaner" written on it and then other people not just me will know what i have become,i must have this brush,Alex is the messiah.
lighten up mate, its just a brush that cost £25
its not a big decision like buying a new van or even a new carbon fibre pole
the aerial brush is much quiker to clean
but if you in the habit of over cleaning a window
dont bother buying one
you might as well get a £5 brush from the super market
-
Alex, the aerial brush looks narrower than the gardiners brush, are they any smaller?
Also what is the dirt retention like, are they ok for rinsing on the glass?
-
I have this sussed now,i might even make a little hypnotherapy tape to play while i`m asleep.
I buy the ariel brush,its fast so i become fast,its got to be good as it costs so much,i dont even know why its fast or what its made of,this doesn`t matter because now i`m fast,the price has become irrelevant,i`ll buy two, i might be twice as fast,one on top of the other,one pass cleaning,i`m smitten,will i go red or black?,black filaments 3 times thicker,maybe its 3 times faster than the red one,how fast is that then? and special window cleaning filaments stuck in a special window cleaning resiny stock,if i`m lucky this will have "Worlds Greatest Fastest Window Cleaner" written on it and then other people not just me will know what i have become,i must have this brush,Alex is the messiah.
lighten up mate, its just a brush that cost £25
its not a big decision like buying a new van or even a new carbon fibre pole
the aerial brush is much quiker to clean
but if you in the habit of over cleaning a window
dont bother buying one
you might as well get a £5 brush from the super market
You can get a brush stock for appx £25 but its £42.43 to get in the club by buying a complete brush first and thats the cheapest red brush,are the black ones faster/better?
Now i am currently definitely in the habit of overcleaning windows but if i can do it faster then surely i need this brush,in fact my need is greater.
-
I think the Ariel is a superb brush, I love the way it splays downwards to do the sills.
The superlite is a superb brush too. With either of these brushes the glass gets cleaned right up to the edge even when your doing the frame, so no need to clean the glass separately.
-
Jets poke out a bit there Dai - why is that?
-
IT'S OVAL? :o
-
Dai whats that hosereel youve got there?
-
IT'S OVAL? :o
the stock is rectangle, but the bristles splay out which gives the look of it being oval.
-
is that trick photography? 'Cos it looks bloomin small.
-
is that trick photography? 'Cos it looks bloomin small.
Well I'm no trick photographer, It's not as wide as the superlite.
The hose reel is the Hozelock that's mounted on my trolley.
Oh and the jets on the Ariel are my own on on silicon stalks, they need pulling back out a bit.
The swivels are the Stanley paint pad conversions.
-
Dai, you've got some of Terry Burrows hair on your brush. ;D
-
That's whats left of a bit of scrubbing pad I glued on for bird muck removal.
-
that looks terrible
just wait till jeff brimble brings
his swivel brush out btw which he as
been using fot the past few years
that will be very much cheaper n better than this pile ov crap ;D ;D
-
that looks terrible
just wait till jeff brimble brings
his swivel brush out btw which he as
been using fot the past few years
that will be very much cheaper n better than this pile ov crap ;D ;D
Jeff uses one of mine too, I think Gardeners are working on something along these lines, a case of wait and see.
-
Alex, the aerial brush looks narrower than the gardiners brush, are they any smaller?
Also what is the dirt retention like, are they ok for rinsing on the glass?
the aerial stock is about 40mm by 225mm 10% narrower and 15% shorter
or about 1/4"inch by 1.5"inch smaller than the superlight stock
the bristles on the superlight are about 280mm or 11"inch
the aerial bristles are about 265mm or 10.5"inch
the big difference is the bristle width
the aerial brush is 40% greaster than the superlight
superlight is 60mm and the aerial 100mm wide
this gives the aerial brush a huge cleaning area
2 of the aerial brushes i have are lighter than the superlight
at 210g & 240g others are are about 280g
the aerial brush stocks are totally stiff
the superlight stock bends
you can rinse witht aerial brush on the glass
you can also not bother with the rinse on a lot of windows with the aerial brush
the aerial brushes are better value in the quality and price
you dont have to buy all the attacments every time you want a new brush
it cost less than most other brushes at £25 for a new brush stock
after a few months use
the bristles are still like new but the aerial stock is only a little worn at the ends
I was going to change it soon, but it looks like it will last years
-
Alex, the aerial brush looks narrower than the gardiners brush, are they any smaller?
Also what is the dirt retention like, are they ok for rinsing on the glass?
the aerial stock is about 40mm by 225mm 10% narrower and 15% shorter
or about 1/4"inch by 1.5"inch smaller than the superlight stock
the bristles on the superlight are about 280mm or 11"inch
the aerial bristles are about 265mm or 10.5"inch
the big difference is the bristle width
the aerial brush is 40% greaster than the superlight
superlight is 60mm and the aerial 100mm wide
this gives the aerial brush a huge cleaning area
2 of the aerial brushes i have are lighter than the superlight
at 210g & 240g others are are about 280g
the aerial brush stocks are totally stiff
the superlight stock bends
you can rinse witht aerial brush on the glass
you can also not bother with the rinse on a lot of windows with the aerial brush
the aerial brushes are better value in the quality and price
you dont have to buy all the attacments every time you want a new brush
it cost less than most other brushes at £25 for a new brush stock
after a few months use
the bristles are still like new but the aerial stock is only a little worn at the ends
I was going to change it soon, but it looks like it will last years
Which super-lite brush are you referring to Alex?
SL DT semi flocked standard splay?
SL DT semi flocked 15 degree splay?
SL DT semi flocked 0 degree splay?
SL ST mono
SL DT mono
SL Xtreme?
Just asking as they are all different & as you know the Aerial is so much better than a super-lite then I can only assume that you have used & evaluated them all?
The Xtreme brush is 165g
None of my super-lite brush stocks are bent either ???
-
Alex, the aerial brush looks narrower than the gardiners brush, are they any smaller?
Also what is the dirt retention like, are they ok for rinsing on the glass?
the aerial stock is about 40mm by 225mm 10% narrower and 15% shorter
or about 1/4"inch by 1.5"inch smaller than the superlight stock
the bristles on the superlight are about 280mm or 11"inch
the aerial bristles are about 265mm or 10.5"inch
the big difference is the bristle width
the aerial brush is 40% greaster than the superlight
superlight is 60mm and the aerial 100mm wide
this gives the aerial brush a huge cleaning area
2 of the aerial brushes i have are lighter than the superlight
at 210g & 240g others are are about 280g
the aerial brush stocks are totally stiff
the superlight stock bends
you can rinse witht aerial brush on the glass
you can also not bother with the rinse on a lot of windows with the aerial brush
the aerial brushes are better value in the quality and price
you dont have to buy all the attacments every time you want a new brush
it cost less than most other brushes at £25 for a new brush stock
after a few months use
the bristles are still like new but the aerial stock is only a little worn at the ends
I was going to change it soon, but it looks like it will last years
-
Alex, the aerial brush looks narrower than the gardiners brush, are they any smaller?
Also what is the dirt retention like, are they ok for rinsing on the glass?
the aerial stock is about 40mm by 225mm 10% narrower and 15% shorter
or about 1/4"inch by 1.5"inch smaller than the superlight stock
the bristles on the superlight are about 280mm or 11"inch
the aerial bristles are about 265mm or 10.5"inch
the big difference is the bristle width
the aerial brush is 40% greaster than the superlight
superlight is 60mm and the aerial 100mm wide
this gives the aerial brush a huge cleaning area
2 of the aerial brushes i have are lighter than the superlight
at 210g & 240g others are are about 280g
the aerial brush stocks are totally stiff
the superlight stock bends
you can rinse witht aerial brush on the glass
you can also not bother with the rinse on a lot of windows with the aerial brush
the aerial brushes are better value in the quality and price
you dont have to buy all the attacments every time you want a new brush
it cost less than most other brushes at £25 for a new brush stock
after a few months use
the bristles are still like new but the aerial stock is only a little worn at the ends
I was going to change it soon, but it looks like it will last years
Which super-lite brush are you referring to Alex?
SL DT semi flocked standard splay?
SL DT semi flocked 15 degree splay?
SL DT semi flocked 0 degree splay?
SL ST mono
SL DT mono
SL Xtreme?
Just asking as they are all different & as you know the Aerial is so much better than a super-lite then I can only assume that you have used & evaluated them all?
The Xtreme brush is 165g
None of my super-lite brush stocks are bent either ???
you tell me mate
i couldnt tell you want degree of splay the aerial brush has
extreme brushes have only got a few rows of bristle, 4 rows i think
as far as i know tecbuk only make standard brushes
with weights as low as 210g
that make the aerial brushes the lightest you can get
if tecbuk made an extreme brush with half the bristles
i expect it would weigh less
-
Brush preference is a very subjective thing - what one person likes another does not get one with, hence the proliferation of purpose-made brushes made for window cleaning.
What is not subjective is weight. With the new ASA advertising rulings coming into effect on the 1st of March regarding website advertising statements, website owners are going to have to be very careful how they word statements on the their websites.
We are confident that the statement on our website about the standard width (260mm) Super-Lite brush range - "The lightest range of WFP brushes in the world -without exception" will fully comply with the ASA standards. This stands true against all 'current' purpose made WFP brushes.
-
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
-
Meeeow!!
-
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Maybe you should have slept less when "designing"? ??? your effort of a Pro-window thingy! ;D
Shocking! 8)
-
i have noticed that craig likes a bitch at gardiners.
-
That's not very nice. I've always found the ladies at Gardiners very pleasant - I like them all! ;D
-
That's not very nice. I've always found the ladies at Gardiners very pleasant - I like them all! ;D
;)
-
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Maybe you should have slept less when "designing"? ??? your effort of a Pro-window thingy! ;D
Shocking! 8)
A,What,When? i'm enjoying the pro-window thingy, as i'm not into good old free advertising i'm not gonna defend it.
-
Brush preference is a very subjective thing - what one person likes another does not get one with, hence the proliferation of purpose-made brushes made for window cleaning.
What is not subjective is weight. With the new ASA advertising rulings coming into effect on the 1st of March regarding website advertising statements, website owners are going to have to be very careful how they word statements on the their websites.
We are confident that the statement on our website about the standard width (260mm) Super-Lite brush range - "The lightest range of WFP brushes in the world -without exception" will fully comply with the ASA standards. This stands true against all 'current' purpose made WFP brushes.
and it is an amazing brush !!!!
big up Gardiners ;) ;) ;)
-
I have the pro window brush, Its ok. It is though a bit stiff when using cold water, But now i am using hot, it softens the bristles up just right.
-
Brush preference is a very subjective thing - what one person likes another does not get one with, hence the proliferation of purpose-made brushes made for window cleaning.
What is not subjective is weight. With the new ASA advertising rulings coming into effect on the 1st of March regarding website advertising statements, website owners are going to have to be very careful how they word statements on the their websites.
We are confident that the statement on our website about the standard width (260mm) Super-Lite brush range - "The lightest range of WFP brushes in the world -without exception" will fully comply with the ASA standards. This stands true against all 'current' purpose made WFP brushes.
i spoke to richard from tecbuk about the weights of brushes
he has a huge range weights range from 125g - 475g
they are not his aerial range brushes these are made for individual companies
he said using a brush that is to light does means longer cleaning times
and that means you will get more tired and lose money
he also said there are more factors to consider and not just the weight of a brush
-
Brush preference is a very subjective thing - what one person likes another does not get one with, hence the proliferation of purpose-made brushes made for window cleaning.
What is not subjective is weight. With the new ASA advertising rulings coming into effect on the 1st of March regarding website advertising statements, website owners are going to have to be very careful how they word statements on the their websites.
We are confident that the statement on our website about the standard width (260mm) Super-Lite brush range - "The lightest range of WFP brushes in the world -without exception" will fully comply with the ASA standards. This stands true against all 'current' purpose made WFP brushes.
i spoke to richard from tecbuk about the weights of brushes
he has a huge range weights range from 125g - 475g
they are not his aerial range brushes these are made for individual companies
he said using a brush that is to light does means longer cleaning times
and that means you will get more tired and lose money
he also said there are more factors to consider and not just the weight of a brush
Alex
forget about the sales patter. I have just taken my Superlite Flocked DT off my pole to try one of these Aerial brushes, and my first opinion is negative. The brush is narrower (not as wide across) than the Superlite is and with a 90 degree brush holder, thread adaptor and then the angle adaptor, you have to hold the pole upright because, in motoring terms, the centre of gravity is too high and wants to topple onto its side when operated in a sideways (horizontal) direction on the glass. This is the same sensation that I get when using a goose neck adaptor and I personally don't get on with it. I would hate to think what it will be like with all the extensions on that I bought.
I will perceiver with it tomorrow, but I don’t see it as an innovative brush, sorry. It also feels heavier on my pole as well, although I haven't weighed them to confirm this.
If you aren't comfortable using the brush, then I can't see how it's going to help you clean faster.
Spruce.
-
is that trick photography? 'Cos it looks bloomin small.
It is small. The width of the Superlite is 260mm and this brush is 224mm. That a lot of mm.
I also find that the soft outer bristles are too soft. You can't push them into the corner of a window and fish out spider nests like you can with the Superlite as their bristles are a little firmer. The brush stock is also a 'solid block'.
Bets me why Dr Windows should have an orgasm just through having ordered one, and that before receiving it and getting it into his hands. I notice that he still hasn't posted a review about this marvellous his brush is yet, even although he promised one several days ago. Maybe his excitement fizzled out too soon.
Edited: Sorry, he has, just posted on another thread - apologies.
Spruce
-
I think its called premature ...........! ;D
-
aeriel,superlight,vikan the difference in cleaning power of all
brushes of the same type(flocked or mono) is minimal
weight is the real issue i have been using gardeners
superlight for over 2yrs,it took me a few months of
perserverence to get use to it or wear it in :) and
apart from the stock being a little fragile and the edges
got roughed up easily its been a good cleaner.
however ive now been using a 11" vikan oval for the last few
months and apart from some weight difference the cleaning
power of the brush itself is no different,the first few weeks
using this brush i found iwas more tired at the end of the day
now a couple of months later ive adjusted and i dont miss the
lightened brush one bit.
my personal conclusion is ,if you are a bit of a wimp or you have
physical issues spend the extra and buy lightened brushes
otherwise buy brushes at a more reasonable price because all
these expensive brushes will not dramatically br better cleaners.
ireally wish somebody would bring out a lightened sill brush
even the weight of my 11" oval would do.
that really would be worth 4 pages of talk ;D
-
Brush preference is a very subjective thing - what one person likes another does not get one with, hence the proliferation of purpose-made brushes made for window cleaning.
What is not subjective is weight. With the new ASA advertising rulings coming into effect on the 1st of March regarding website advertising statements, website owners are going to have to be very careful how they word statements on the their websites.
We are confident that the statement on our website about the standard width (260mm) Super-Lite brush range - "The lightest range of WFP brushes in the world -without exception" will fully comply with the ASA standards. This stands true against all 'current' purpose made WFP brushes.
i spoke to richard from tecbuk about the weights of brushes
he has a huge range weights range from 125g - 475g
they are not his aerial range brushes these are made for individual companies
he said using a brush that is to light does means longer cleaning times
and that means you will get more tired and lose moneyhe also said there are more factors to consider and not just the weight of a brush
Next time you speak to Richard, I would advise him to go out & do more window cleaning.
Since using the Xtreme SL (165g) I've cut my cleaning time down dramatically! It's like lightening. Might not be for everyone & it will struggle to clean upper sills (if you do them) BUT the speed & ease I can work at with this brush is staggering!
No doubt the Aeriel brush is probably a descent brush at cleaning but it has zero accuracy with such an extreme splay. If you want pin=point accuracy the new 0 degree SL offers it up in buckets! ;)
-
Brush preference is a very subjective thing - what one person likes another does not get one with, hence the proliferation of purpose-made brushes made for window cleaning.
What is not subjective is weight. With the new ASA advertising rulings coming into effect on the 1st of March regarding website advertising statements, website owners are going to have to be very careful how they word statements on the their websites.
We are confident that the statement on our website about the standard width (260mm) Super-Lite brush range - "The lightest range of WFP brushes in the world -without exception" will fully comply with the ASA standards. This stands true against all 'current' purpose made WFP brushes.
i spoke to richard from tecbuk about the weights of brushes
he has a huge range weights range from 125g - 475g
they are not his aerial range brushes these are made for individual companies
he said using a brush that is to light does means longer cleaning times
and that means you will get more tired and lose moneyhe also said there are more factors to consider and not just the weight of a brush
Next time you speak to Richard, I would advise him to go out & do more window cleaning.
Since using the Xtreme SL (165g) I've cut my cleaning time down dramatically! It's like lightening. Might not be for everyone & it will struggle to clean upper sills (if you do them) BUT the speed & ease I can work at with this brush is staggering!
No doubt the Aeriel brush is probably a descent brush at cleaning but it has zero accuracy with such an extreme splay. If you want pin=point accuracy the new 0 degree SL offers it up in buckets! ;)
your saying extreme brush with only half the bristles cleans faster or is it because its a few grams lighter
dosent make sense
0 degree brushes means you have no control over how the brush will splay
so their not accurate when you try to use the brush clean with
the monment you push down they go all over the place
you have never used the aerial brush
I will tell you how good the brush splay is
with your regular customers
you can clean the tops of frames with the bristles
without the jets spraying water all over them
takes about 1 second
then you can clean the window in 2 seconds
then go over the sill in about another second
Using the aerial brush a modern 3 bed semi is cleaned with less than 4 litres of water
takes me longer to reel the hose in
i'm thinking about using a trolley for this type of work now
-
Brush preference is a very subjective thing - what one person likes another does not get one with, hence the proliferation of purpose-made brushes made for window cleaning.
What is not subjective is weight. With the new ASA advertising rulings coming into effect on the 1st of March regarding website advertising statements, website owners are going to have to be very careful how they word statements on the their websites.
We are confident that the statement on our website about the standard width (260mm) Super-Lite brush range - "The lightest range of WFP brushes in the world -without exception" will fully comply with the ASA standards. This stands true against all 'current' purpose made WFP brushes.
i spoke to richard from tecbuk about the weights of brushes
he has a huge range weights range from 125g - 475g
they are not his aerial range brushes these are made for individual companies
he said using a brush that is to light does means longer cleaning times
and that means you will get more tired and lose moneyhe also said there are more factors to consider and not just the weight of a brush
Next time you speak to Richard, I would advise him to go out & do more window cleaning.
Since using the Xtreme SL (165g) I've cut my cleaning time down dramatically! It's like lightening. Might not be for everyone & it will struggle to clean upper sills (if you do them) BUT the speed & ease I can work at with this brush is staggering!
No doubt the Aeriel brush is probably a descent brush at cleaning but it has zero accuracy with such an extreme splay. If you want pin=point accuracy the new 0 degree SL offers it up in buckets! ;)
your saying extreme brush with only half the bristles cleans faster or is it because its a few grams lighter
dosent make sense
0 degree brushes means you have no control over how the brush will splay
so their not accurate when you try to use the brush clean with
the monment you push down they go all over the placeyou have never used the aerial brush
I will tell you how good the brush splay is
with your regular customers
you can clean the tops of frames with the bristles
without the jets spraying water all over them
takes about 1 second
then you can clean the window in 2 seconds
then go over the sill in about another second
Using the aerial brush a modern 3 bed semi is cleaned with less than 4 litres of water
takes me longer to reel the hose in
i'm thinking about using a trolley for this type of work now
Are you for real Alex? WTF! ::)
I give in. ::) No good knocking when there's no one in!
-
Try one and you will see how quick and easy it is.ill second that Alex.I'm getting over 2 houses done without filling my backpack.think I'm using 10 litres a house and getting great results.
Brush preference is a very subjective thing - what one person likes another does not get one with, hence the proliferation of purpose-made brushes made for window cleaning.
What is not subjective is weight. With the new ASA advertising rulings coming into effect on the 1st of March regarding website advertising statements, website owners are going to have to be very careful how they word statements on the their websites.
We are confident that the statement on our website about the standard width (260mm) Super-Lite brush range - "The lightest range of WFP brushes in the world -without exception" will fully comply with the ASA standards. This stands true against all 'current' purpose made WFP brushes.
i spoke to richard from tecbuk about the weights of brushes
he has a huge range weights range from 125g - 475g
they are not his aerial range brushes these are made for individual companies
he said using a brush that is to light does means longer cleaning times
and that means you will get more tired and lose moneyhe also said there are more factors to consider and not just the weight of a brush
Next time you speak to Richard, I would advise him to go out & do more window cleaning.
Since using the Xtreme SL (165g) I've cut my cleaning time down dramatically! It's like lightening. Might not be for everyone & it will struggle to clean upper sills (if you do them) BUT the speed & ease I can work at with this brush is staggering!
No doubt the Aeriel brush is probably a descent brush at cleaning but it has zero accuracy with such an extreme splay. If you want pin=point accuracy the new 0 degree SL offers it up in buckets! ;)
your saying extreme brush with only half the bristles cleans faster or is it because its a few grams lighter
dosent make sense
0 degree brushes means you have no control over how the brush will splay
so their not accurate when you try to use the brush clean with
the monment you push down they go all over the placeyou have never used the aerial brush
I will tell you how good the brush splay is
with your regular customers
you can clean the tops of frames with the bristles
without the jets spraying water all over them
takes about 1 second
then you can clean the window in 2 seconds
then go over the sill in about another second
Using the aerial brush a modern 3 bed semi is cleaned with less than 4 litres of water
takes me longer to reel the hose in
i'm thinking about using a trolley for this type of work now
Are you for real Alex? WTF! ::)
I give in. ::) No good knocking when there's no one in!
-
Try one and you will see how quick and easy it is.ill second that Alex.I'm getting over 2 houses done without filling my backpack.think I'm using 10 litres a house and getting great results.
Brush preference is a very subjective thing - what one person likes another does not get one with, hence the proliferation of purpose-made brushes made for window cleaning.
What is not subjective is weight. With the new ASA advertising rulings coming into effect on the 1st of March regarding website advertising statements, website owners are going to have to be very careful how they word statements on the their websites.
We are confident that the statement on our website about the standard width (260mm) Super-Lite brush range - "The lightest range of WFP brushes in the world -without exception" will fully comply with the ASA standards. This stands true against all 'current' purpose made WFP brushes.
i spoke to richard from tecbuk about the weights of brushes
he has a huge range weights range from 125g - 475g
they are not his aerial range brushes these are made for individual companies
he said using a brush that is to light does means longer cleaning times
and that means you will get more tired and lose moneyhe also said there are more factors to consider and not just the weight of a brush
Next time you speak to Richard, I would advise him to go out & do more window cleaning.
Since using the Xtreme SL (165g) I've cut my cleaning time down dramatically! It's like lightening. Might not be for everyone & it will struggle to clean upper sills (if you do them) BUT the speed & ease I can work at with this brush is staggering!
No doubt the Aeriel brush is probably a descent brush at cleaning but it has zero accuracy with such an extreme splay. If you want pin=point accuracy the new 0 degree SL offers it up in buckets! ;)
your saying extreme brush with only half the bristles cleans faster or is it because its a few grams lighter
dosent make sense
0 degree brushes means you have no control over how the brush will splay
so their not accurate when you try to use the brush clean with
the monment you push down they go all over the placeyou have never used the aerial brush
I will tell you how good the brush splay is
with your regular customers
you can clean the tops of frames with the bristles
without the jets spraying water all over them
takes about 1 second
then you can clean the window in 2 seconds
then go over the sill in about another second
Using the aerial brush a modern 3 bed semi is cleaned with less than 4 litres of water
takes me longer to reel the hose in
i'm thinking about using a trolley for this type of work now
Are you for real Alex? WTF! ::)
I give in. ::) No good knocking when there's no one in!
I might. ;)
-
Hi
I have just weighed the Aeriel Brush and compared it to the Superlite DT Flocked brush. I included the Aeriel brush adaptor, thread adaptor and the plastic angle adaptor and the brush adaptor and angle adaptor on the Superlite. I also included the hose on both brushes that connect to my Aqua-daptor.
Superlite = 420g
Aeriel = 500g
both weighed on our food weighing scale.
The Aeriel brush is smaller than the Superlite, and has been commented before, would require more brush strokes on the glass to get the job done.
So where Alex gets the story from that it's lighter in definitely incorrect. The concern is that newbies like I was a few years ago, come onto this site seeking genuine info to help them on their way and don't always get it. This thread is a typical example. The only reason I bought an Aerial brush was on the back of Lee GLS comments that he found it works nicely for him, but I have personally been disappointed with it's performance. At 500g the brush is in the same weight class as the oval Vikans we used to use.
The only thing I can say in the Aeriel brush's favour it that it glides nicely over leaded windows and makes quick work of them. Otherwise, it doesn't feature in my appraisal.
Spruce
-
Hi
I have just weighed the Aeriel Brush and compared it to the Superlite DT Flocked brush. I included the Aeriel brush adaptor, thread adaptor and the plastic angle adaptor and the brush adaptor and angle adaptor on the Superlite. I also included the hose on both brushes that connect to my Aqua-daptor.
Superlite = 420g
Aeriel = 500g
both weighed on our food weighing scale.
The Aeriel brush is smaller than the Superlite, and has been commented before, would require more brush strokes on the glass to get the job done.
So where Alex gets the story from that it's lighter in definitely incorrect. The concern is that newbies like I was a few years ago, come onto this site seeking genuine info to help them on their way and don't always get it. This thread is a typical example. The only reason I bought an Aerial brush was on the back of Lee GLS comments that he found it works nicely for him, but I have personally been disappointed with it's performance. At 500g the brush is in the same weight class as the oval Vikans we used to use.
The only thing I can say in the Aeriel brush's favour it that it glides of leaded windows and makes quick work of them. Otherwise, it doesn't feature in my appraisal.
Spruce
I think it's quite clear just from some of the comments on this thread that Alex's knowledge of reality is somewhat. clouded? ;D
-
Spruce, i have just weighed my brushes and here are the following weights, all with angle adapters and pipes
SL DT Mono 390g
Aerial 459g
Vikan 518 (the new one with the red rubber edge)
So the SL is still definitly the lightest, but the vikan is still the heaviest.
I think the aerial brush will be an aquired taste, but it does move nicely over the glass and requires less pressure than my SL DT mono to get the middle bristles in contact with the glass.
What is it that you dont like about the brush spruce?
-
Hi Lee,
Interesting the weight measurement differences between our scales. Anyway the difference in weight between them is significant. The Vikans thread adaptor that's built into the brush is at a slightly greater angle than the SL and we have never used an angle adaptor with them.
The flocked SL I have it the splayed bristles and it is sofer than the Mono DT that I also have so I find that the splay on this brush is better than the mono and hence doesn't require the same effort to get it to work. The brush I have on my SLX is the flocked SL with 0 degree splay and it think this is not as nice to use as the splayed equivalent.
I made the observation earlier that I don't like the 90 degree brush adaptor with it thread adaptor to convert to the thread of the angle adaptor. As the brush is a lot narrower, in motoring terms this makes the drive of the brush higher - a higher centre of gravity and I feel it wants to topple over especially with horizontal strokes. (I would hate to think what it would be like with all these extensions that I have as well). The drive of the gardiner brush is from an angle and much better IMO. I also did find a lot of difference weight wise using the brush for the first time on Friday on the same pole. I could immediatley feel it was heavier.
Dai commented that he felt the jets could be pointed lower, but his observation could suggest that he is not running the brush vertically on the glass. I have experiemented with different angles on the glass myself and find the most comfortable is at a slight angle with the jets pointing upward. This is the only adjustment that you can get the built in scraper to touch the glass(with difficulty) although I reverted back to the guaranteed method of scrapping bird muck off with the edge of the brush head.
I don't have much compact work on my round, although this week I have a couple of streets to do. I haven't got the bottle to wash and walk away without rinsing but may try it on the first house on Monday and go back and evaluate it later once it has dried. I have always rinsed the glass brush off.
Spruce
-
I got a red ariel, weighs 338gm without the plastic scraper.
-
I would just like to personally thank all contributors to this thread,its just what i have been waiting for having put all purchases on hold. I`m running with a clx 27 and the black DT 15 degree so something would need to be quite exceptional to get my wallet open again. I`ve just completed appx. 160 first cleans, glass and frames with this set up and now clean with near total confidence.
What about the black ariel with the 3 x thicker filaments that costs appx £60 ?,tecbuk must be insane if they think folk want to shell out that sort of money to experiment.
The lack of unbiased personal appraisal of this or these brushes from experienced wfp operators exclaiming they are worth every single penny is the clue,i.e.,lack of. Also subconsciously if you had shelled out top money for a brush justification of its worth is likely to no longer be impartial.
Bottom line is,tecbuk stick a £60 brush on sale,tell me its great and i am supposed to believe it.
In my case they have simply annoyed me !
-
Spruce, i agree with all that you have said in your post. I have fan jets fitted to my aerial brush and rinse in the glass, that is why i haven't gone for the DT Flocked, if i rinsed off the glass then i wouldn't have bought the aerial, i would have gone for the SL DT Flocked. With regards to the DT mono, I'm with you, the bristles are too firm and require too much pressure for me, i know other will disagree, so that is why i went for the aerial, its a mono brush with softer bristles, so its the only brush at the moment that ticks all the boxes for me with regard to being able to rinse on the glass, and requiring less force to get the bristles in contact with the glass
Sean, there are some people on here who either work, or have some connection with tecbuk or have a gripe against gardiners.
The aerial brush is by no means perfect, the scraper is a complete waste of time, all i have done with it so far is managed to cut my hand on it.
As for the price, it is expensive and it does need to be reduced if other people want to try it and then maybe we will get some more impartial advice on it.
The whole thing of being able to walk away without rinsing i feel is a bit far fetched, i think with any brush there will be circumstances where you could get away without rinsing, but if you want to guarantee that you will have no problems with your work, then i think you will always need to rinse to a certain degree.
-
Just done 6 first cleans with red Aeriel brush great results everytime.1 was a hotel.all customers very impressed!
-
Dai commented that he felt the jets could be pointed lower, but his observation could suggest that he is not running the brush vertically on the glass. I have experiemented with different angles on the glass myself and find the most comfortable is at a slight angle with the jets pointing upward. This is the only adjustment that you can get the built in scraper to touch the glass(with difficulty) although I reverted back to the guaranteed method of scrapping bird muck off with the edge of the brush head.
I don't have much compact work on my round, although this week I have a couple of streets to do. I haven't got the bottle to wash and walk away without rinsing but may try it on the first house on Monday and go back and evaluate it later once it has dried. I have always rinsed the glass brush off.
Spruce
I didn't say that mate, it must have been someone else, I bought the bare brush and jetted it myself.
I do think it's a great brush, just wish it was a bit wider.
-
Try one and you will see how quick and easy it is.ill second that Alex.I'm getting over 2 houses done without filling my backpack.think I'm using 10 litres a house and getting great results.
what a load of bollox, over two houses per fill using 10l per house .................. just how big is this backpack of yours. ::) ::)
-
The aerial jets are smaller than most and there are only two so the water could go further, also less surface bristle area.
-
Ones 20 litres and ones 18.
Try one and you will see how quick and easy it is.ill second that Alex.I'm getting over 2 houses done without filling my backpack.think I'm using 10 litres a house and getting great results.
what a load of bollox, over two houses per fill using 10l per house .................. just how big is this backpack of yours. ::) ::)
-
Dai commented that he felt the jets could be pointed lower, but his observation could suggest that he is not running the brush vertically on the glass. I have experiemented with different angles on the glass myself and find the most comfortable is at a slight angle with the jets pointing upward. This is the only adjustment that you can get the built in scraper to touch the glass(with difficulty) although I reverted back to the guaranteed method of scrapping bird muck off with the edge of the brush head.
I don't have much compact work on my round, although this week I have a couple of streets to do. I haven't got the bottle to wash and walk away without rinsing but may try it on the first house on Monday and go back and evaluate it later once it has dried. I have always rinsed the glass brush off.
Spruce
I didn't say that mate, it must have been someone else, I bought the bare brush and jetted it myself.
I do think it's a great brush, just wish it was a bit wider.
Hi Dai
Sorry - I thought it was a post of yours. Apologises again.
Trouble is that if it was wider it would be far too heavy.
Spruce
-
Yawn :)
Dai commented that he felt the jets could be pointed lower, but his observation could suggest that he is not running the brush vertically on the glass. I have experiemented with different angles on the glass myself and find the most comfortable is at a slight angle with the jets pointing upward. This is the only adjustment that you can get the built in scraper to touch the glass(with difficulty) although I reverted back to the guaranteed method of scrapping bird muck off with the edge of the brush head.
I don't have much compact work on my round, although this week I have a couple of streets to do. I haven't got the bottle to wash and walk away without rinsing but may try it on the first house on Monday and go back and evaluate it later once it has dried. I have always rinsed the glass brush off.
Spruce
I didn't say that mate, it must have been someone else, I bought the bare brush and jetted it myself.
I do think it's a great brush, just wish it was a bit wider.
Hi Dai
Sorry - I thought it was a post of yours. Apologises again.
Trouble is that if it was wider it would be far too heavy.
Spruce
-
Hi
I have just weighed the Aeriel Brush and compared it to the Superlite DT Flocked brush. I included the Aeriel brush adaptor, thread adaptor and the plastic angle adaptor and the brush adaptor and angle adaptor on the Superlite. I also included the hose on both brushes that connect to my Aqua-daptor.
Superlite = 420g
Aeriel = 500g
both weighed on our food weighing scale.
The Aeriel brush is smaller than the Superlite, and has been commented before, would require more brush strokes on the glass to get the job done.
So where Alex gets the story from that it's lighter in definitely incorrect. The concern is that newbies like I was a few years ago, come onto this site seeking genuine info to help them on their way and don't always get it. This thread is a typical example. The only reason I bought an Aerial brush was on the back of Lee GLS comments that he found it works nicely for him, but I have personally been disappointed with it's performance. At 500g the brush is in the same weight class as the oval Vikans we used to use.
The only thing I can say in the Aeriel brush's favour it that it glides of leaded windows and makes quick work of them. Otherwise, it doesn't feature in my appraisal.
Spruce
I think it's quite clear just from some of the comments on this thread that Alex's knowledge of reality is somewhat. clouded? ;D
my superlite brush is 262g without the broom socket which is 30g superlite is 292g
my red aerial brush is 270g with screws and nuts the head assembly is 60g aerial brush 330g
the tecbuk bours hair brush is 210g, if i put a broom socket on that it would be 240g
that makes it over 50g lighter than the superlight
and it has almost 2 x the bristles as the gardiner extreme brush
if you do go to the extreme and chop off half the bristles
you can make vikan brushes lighter
aerial brushes are far better quality, better value for money and better for window cleaning
to be fair you carnt compare the superlight brushes with tecbuks aerial brush
its an unfair contest
your just a little ped off becaused you brought several superlights
when you could have gone tp aldi
-
Totally agree Alex.
How good is the black Aeriel brush?
-
Alex how can your red brush be 330g and my red brush be 459g?
-
Totally agree Alex.
How good is the black Aeriel brush?
very good mate
but i would say you could save your money and use a vikan brush for first cleans
if you dont mind the weight, if you do get the black aerial brush for first cleans
the black aerial brush will last for years if you only use for first cleans, so definately worth the money
take off all the dirt quickly then go over the glass again with you red aerial brush
saves a lot of time and you wont soil your red brush for your next job
so no risk of spotting, because the brush will be clean
-
Alex how can your red brush be 330g and my red brush be 459g?
i weighed the brush
then the head, scraper part with the short connector
you must be weighing the extenions and angle cranks to get that figure
-
Mine weighed in at 320g
Alex how can your red brush be 330g and my red brush be 459g?
i weighed the brush
then the head, scraper part with the short connector
you must be weighing the extenions and angle cranks to get that figure
-
Alex how can your red brush be 330g and my red brush be 459g?
Because he's part of the sales team! ::)
When you're in sales you just pluck figures out of the air, tell 'em what they want to hear! ::)
Never heard so much bollox talked about a brush in my whole life! :o
-
I said I would continue with my Aerial brush this week. The first job I had on Monday was an internal and external clean; internals are done every second time. So I had the opportunity to see how the Aerial brush performed. Sadly it didn't clean very well and I had to go over a whole lot of windows again. I occasionally had to go over the odd window in the past if I missed something, but not like this. That brush cost me a virtual double clean.
I carried on with it but only made it until Monday dinner time (lunch time) before I pulled it off and put my SL back. The SL is tonnes better that this overweight, narrow rubbish. (Funny that each of our brushes weight differs so much.)
Unlike our 2 salesmen here, I won't recommend this brush at all - a waste of £53.00 plus extensions. And no Alex, I'm not pee'd off that I have so many SL brushes, and I will continue to support that brand. Its the best brush I have had since I started WFP with the oval Vikans 6 years ago.
I guess the design of the scraper that no one seems to be able to get to work properly is indicitive of the design of the rest of the brush.
The only redeeming feature of the Aerial brush is that it glides over leaded windows beautifully.
Spruce
ps. Oh, I forgot to mention, I also think the blue and white Tecbuc badge on the top of the brush is real class.
-
Steady on guys.....
Alex you are quite right that you can not compare the ariel brush with an SL - for a start the Ariel is somewhat smaller
in size so the weight should be way lighter than the SL !
I will trial an ariel brush at sometime, but i have to say you banging on and on is making it far less likely to
happen esp. when an experienced w/c has slammed it.
Darran
-
I said I would continue with my Aerial brush this week. The first job I had on Monday was an internal and external clean; internals are done every second time. So I had the opportunity to see how the Aerial brush performed. Sadly it didn't clean very well and I had to go over a whole lot of windows again. I occasionally had to go over the odd window in the past if I missed something, but not like this. That brush cost me a virtual double clean.
I carried on with it but only made it until Monday dinner time (lunch time) before I pulled it off and put my SL back. The SL is tonnes better that this overweight, narrow rubbish. (Funny that each of our brushes weight differs so much.)
Unlike our 2 salesmen here, I won't recommend this brush at all - a waste of £53.00 plus extensions. And no Alex, I'm not pee'd off that I have so many SL brushes, and I will continue to support that brand. Its the best brush I have had since I started WFP with the oval Vikans 6 years ago.
I guess the design of the scraper that no one seems to be able to get to work properly is indicitive of the design of the rest of the brush.
The only redeeming feature of the Aerial brush is that it glides over leaded windows beautifully.
Spruce
ps. Oh, I forgot to mention, I also think the blue and white Tecbuc badge on the top of the brush is real class.
I personally havnt had any problems the the aerial brush cleans, I'm sure a bently brush would clean as well as a SL or the aerial brush.
Like I've said before I like the SL and aerial, both have there positives and negatives, at the end of the day brushchoice is down to personal preference.
Some on eBay yesterday sold a SL DT 15 deg brush after 3 days of use because he didn't like it, that doesn't make a bad brush.
-
The SL has the edge when cleaning through those bars that cover first floor french windows.
I tried the Ariel on them yesterday and it was a pain.