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Title: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: richywilts on February 06, 2011, 04:54:43 pm
just wondering who we would all class as the chaps on here who run bigger operations than the one man bands say people who turnover £1000,000 + a year.

and maybe give a bit of insight into how they have took there businesses forward
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: Sean Dyer on February 06, 2011, 04:55:54 pm
a million?

Not more than one or two i don;t reckon

Quite  a few over 100 k though
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: Adam P on February 06, 2011, 05:00:00 pm
i think he meant 100k not 1000k as anyone that rich would most likely be on a beach then sat talking on here. interesting to know
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: P @ F on February 06, 2011, 05:00:57 pm
I just missed the mark this year , i reckon if i get rid of the ladders and invest in wfp then i will hit the spot next year !

Its the quiet ones you have to watch  ;)

Rich
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: Taylor & Taylor WC Services on February 06, 2011, 05:01:52 pm
I will be one day  ;)
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: Slash on February 06, 2011, 05:04:39 pm
I'm a one man band but according to my missus I am a BIG BOY ;)
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: P @ F on February 06, 2011, 05:05:30 pm
T&T  Not with van signage like that sonny !   ;D

Rich
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: richywilts on February 06, 2011, 05:06:44 pm
it was meant to be £100,000 hahaha too many zerooooooooooooss
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: Taylor & Taylor WC Services on February 06, 2011, 05:07:11 pm
T&T  Not with van signage like that sonny !   ;D

Rich

mwahaha that signage is exactly why xxx
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: david thomas on February 06, 2011, 05:09:08 pm
As Delboy said this time next year I'll be a millianare?lol
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: james44 on February 06, 2011, 05:11:59 pm
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it was meant to be £100,000 hahaha too many zerooooooooooooss

I dont think a turnover of £100,000 can be classed as a bigboy! think if it was profit then yes but turnover no!
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: P @ F on February 06, 2011, 05:17:58 pm
Just playin T&T , wont even mention his name  ;)

One name i would like to see come up here is our dear old mod D.M.
When he tips up im gonna double the price for M&S instantly, you have been warned you plastic cornishman  ;D

Rich
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: Taylor & Taylor WC Services on February 06, 2011, 05:21:31 pm
I guess it depends how big your own business is as to who you determine to be a big player? Anyone bigger than me I consider a big player and strive to be as successful as one day.

I hope to have gone past the 100k mark by the end of 2011. Just hope it goes to plan?

I too want to know who the 'big boys' are so I can try and network with them for ideas and advice?
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: Darranvps on February 06, 2011, 05:22:39 pm
In any business situation we all have the same advantage.

WE ALL HAVE TWO EARS & ONE MOUTH

So if you want a business that has more than 100 thousand turnover you have to learn one basic rule.

LISTEN TWICE AS MUCH AS YOU TALK.

(Richy I have told you how to do this, take time. read what I said and you wont go far wrong, Guaranteed)
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: Taylor & Taylor WC Services on February 06, 2011, 05:25:37 pm
In any business situation we all have the same advantage.

WE ALL HAVE TWO EARS & ONE MOUTH

So if you want a business that has more than 100 thousand turnover you have to learn one basic rule.

LISTEN TWICE AS MUCH AS YOU TALK.

(Richy I have told you how to do this, take time. read what I said I you wont go far wrong, Guaranteed)


I like this approach. Evaluate everything first?
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: bad trippy on February 06, 2011, 05:31:13 pm
Frankybadboy earned enough to buy a week in Weston Super Mare last year
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: richywilts on February 06, 2011, 05:42:37 pm
i know a 100,000 grand aint biggest of firms but if ya hitting that sort of figure ya have got a fair sized window cleaning business
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: P @ F on February 06, 2011, 05:42:56 pm
Rhinoman , you should write a book , make a bit more money .
I too have had the benefit of what i consider to be words of wisdom from a bit of a player , no book yet but its in the pipeline im sure !
He came to my house a while back for a coffee , or was he checking my work , i will never know !
He sat there with his wife and drummed into me that my prices needed to go up , for once i listened , on the monday i started the increases , not a single loss yet , not done it in 5 years , most work was fairly priced in my location , but i have to admit lots did need a big boost .
The upshot of this couples visit is the fact that i will now be earning lots more this year than last .

As was said about 2 ears 1 mouth , i see the point , i for one was too pig headed to hear it many times over the phone , it took a personal visit to drum it home .
My advice to anybody with a mentor willing to give the time to you is ...TAKE IT IN .

Regards Rich  
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: Darranvps on February 06, 2011, 05:48:06 pm
Rhinoman , you should write a book , make a bit more money .
I too have had the benefit of what i consider to be words of wisdom from a bit of a player , no book yet but its in the pipeline im sure !
He came to my house a while back for a coffee , or was he checking my work , i will never know !
He sat there with his wife and drummed into me that my prices needed to go up , for once i listened , on the monday i started the increases , not a single loss yet , not done it in 5 years , most work was fairly priced in my location , but i have to admit lots did need a big boost .
The upshot of this couples visit is the fact that i will now be earning lots more this year than last .

As was said about 2 ears 1 mouth , i see the point , i for one was too pig headed to hear it many times over the phone , it took a personal visit to drum it home .
My advice to anybody with a mentor willing to give the time to you is ...TAKE IT IN .

Regards Rich  

Where are you based?
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: P @ F on February 06, 2011, 05:56:57 pm
The MIGHTY PLYMOUTH ..............GREEN ARMY...... ;D

Rich
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: alanwilson on February 06, 2011, 07:09:17 pm
£100k?

a week?

no I'm not doing that much yet.
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: alanwilson on February 06, 2011, 07:09:50 pm
£100k?

a week?

no I'm not doing that much yet.
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: Frankybadboy on February 06, 2011, 07:14:36 pm
iam only 99.999 away from 100k  ::) ::) ::) ::)


dont believe what trippy said his hols is in his back garden
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: steve rix on February 06, 2011, 07:24:09 pm
we will do about 110/115K this year. Be next this year because of the vat increase has upset a lot of domestic custys having put prices up once already
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on February 06, 2011, 07:27:12 pm
jv price  ;D
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: Sean Dyer on February 06, 2011, 08:15:27 pm
its true what has been said, 100 k isnt alot in profit figures if you have 4 staff :)

But someone on there own could be knocking out 50 k plus and making similar, however from the 100 k you would have the foundation to grow your business and your quantity of work, from which your profit will grow

I am not bothered about turning over vast sums, just a good sole trader life stlye business, if in the future i want to get off the tools, i will go down the franchise route, less complicated! less overheads
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: mikecam on February 06, 2011, 09:46:11 pm
its true what has been said, 100 k isnt alot in profit figures if you have 4 staff :) 

Its not a lot?
But someone on there own could be knocking out 50 k plus and making similar, however from the 100 k you would have the foundation to grow your business and your quantity of work, from which your profit will grow

I am not bothered about turning over vast sums, just a good sole trader life stlye business, if in the future i want to get off the tools, i will go down the franchise route, less complicated! less overheads


No no, if in future you wanna get off the tools, consider a career in business advice to window cleaners, they'll never know the difference !!!!
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: Sapphire Window Cleaning on February 06, 2011, 10:10:53 pm
i know a 100,000 grand aint biggest of firms but if ya hitting that sort of figure ya have got a fair sized window cleaning business


Richy that would be a big firm, thats £100,000,000 lol




Matt
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: richywilts on February 06, 2011, 10:59:02 pm
haha i know i couldnt be arsed puttin the pound sign in
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: Mark Farrimond on February 06, 2011, 11:00:30 pm
To quote Duncan Banatyne;

"Turnover is for vanity, profit is for sanity."

Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: P @ F on February 06, 2011, 11:06:24 pm
Im about to read his book , unless the bihatch is feelin fruity !

Wish me luck
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on February 06, 2011, 11:10:58 pm
p@f r big boys  ;D ;D
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: Sean Dyer on February 06, 2011, 11:12:12 pm
its true what has been said, 100 k isnt alot in profit figures if you have 4 staff :) 

Its not a lot?
But someone on there own could be knocking out 50 k plus and making similar, however from the 100 k you would have the foundation to grow your business and your quantity of work, from which your profit will grow

I am not bothered about turning over vast sums, just a good sole trader life stlye business, if in the future i want to get off the tools, i will go down the franchise route, less complicated! less overheads


No no, if in future you wanna get off the tools, consider a career in business advice to window cleaners, they'll never know the difference !!!!

why dont you read the end of the sentence you idiot

100k isnt alot in profit IF YOU HAVE 4 STAFF DOING IT

and if you have 50k for one man , it is pretty much the same


SO THE CONCLUSION IS TURNOVER ISNT EVERYTHING!!!!

if however you turn over 100 k with part time help , then you profit some good money

Perhaps if you wanna get off the tools you should learn to read
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: P @ F on February 06, 2011, 11:20:54 pm
Watch this space gav ..... we are gigantic ... side lines all over the shop  :o

Wanna see the pics ?

Rich
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on February 06, 2011, 11:25:20 pm
saw that nice job rich
a few more ov them
youl be right lol ;D
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: P @ F on February 06, 2011, 11:52:13 pm
You got me Gav , you seen the usual weapons in many posts , here are the sleepers in the arsenal of toys !

Oh what fun this w/c milarky is   ;D

Rich
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on February 06, 2011, 11:56:58 pm
is rite richy lad
get all them vans out earning
atleast 3ton a day  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on February 07, 2011, 12:20:48 am
no ones mentioned dave morris
he's big concern  ;) ;)
more than enuf subbies
plus workers  ;)
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: P @ F on February 07, 2011, 12:42:20 am
Whos Dave Morris ?
Next you'll be tellin me he has a wife called Debbie who thinks i make a crackin cup of coffee  ;D

Rich
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: james44 on February 07, 2011, 12:49:03 am
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Im about to read his book

You will enjoy his book! good read!
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: P @ F on February 07, 2011, 01:03:14 am
I've had it for 6 months , not picked it up though !
My mission this week is to read the darn thing .

Rich
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: mikecam on February 07, 2011, 07:58:44 am
its true what has been said, 100 k isnt alot in profit figures if you have 4 staff :) 

Its not a lot?
But someone on there own could be knocking out 50 k plus and making similar, however from the 100 k you would have the foundation to grow your business and your quantity of work, from which your profit will grow

I am not bothered about turning over vast sums, just a good sole trader life stlye business, if in the future i want to get off the tools, i will go down the franchise route, less complicated! less overheads


No no, if in future you wanna get off the tools, consider a career in business advice to window cleaners, they'll never know the difference !!!!

why dont you read the end of the sentence you idiot

100k isnt alot in profit IF YOU HAVE 4 STAFF DOING IT

and if you have 50k for one man , it is pretty much the same


SO THE CONCLUSION IS TURNOVER ISNT EVERYTHING!!!!

if however you turn over 100 k with part time help , then you profit some good money

Perhaps if you wanna get off the tools you should learn to read
I'm reading fine. I'm also understanding the difference between profit and turnover. I'm an even bigger idiot than you imagine. I think 100k profit is great even if you have 10 men working for you. Thats how stupid i am.
Title: Re: WHO ARE THE BIG BOYS ON HERE THEN??
Post by: Sean Dyer on February 07, 2011, 04:26:00 pm
100 k turn over i am talkin about, i must admit it isnt as clear to read as i thought,   so i will let you off this once :)

My point is, 100 k turnover isnt a GOOD business, if it takes 4 guys to do it, ie too much costs, not enough profit, whereas one guy could profit a similar figure alone with good work

So some businesses may SEEM big, but are really just busy fools

i have been out canvassing commercial today and it seems alot of big commercial companies are busy fools, making money by doing shoddy work