Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: bentsbrook27 on February 04, 2011, 08:14:41 pm
-
thinking of buying my fourth scudo but fed up with the ride and handling since gone wfp 3 years ago the 1,6 engine dont help but only 1000 payload is not man enough, new one with all the girlie bits on inc vat £16334 same van vw transporter t32 bit of mettalic £22975 vw salesman says you have to have 1400 payload cos wfp customers have clutch problems anyone got a t32 for wfp
-
I've a T30 with a 650 Ionics in the back. Pulls like a train.
-
t30 1200 payload i think this would be enough especially to bring price down with new 2.0 tdi
-
Don't see what payload has to do with clutch problems ???
-
Don't see what payload has to do with clutch problems ???
yeah but youre not a vw van salesman ::) :D
-
Scudo's as you must know, have two side doors.Mines a two man 800l with 2.4m ladders inside the roof.The dash is poor.
Ducatto's are good, is this too big?
-
Transporter all day long if you can afford it, you wont regret it, I've got a T4 van and a T5 174BHP minibus - quality build and stylish work horse ;)
-
Affordability
Scudo cheaper option, but the transporter is the apple mac choice
Mr B
-
Vw all day long
-
I've got a T30, what water tank
-
I've got the scudo, the imac, the macbookpro, and the mac air.So how does that work?
It's about payload, number of doors, how many crew, and parkability.
If you want a compact two man op with ladders inside scudo lwb, if you want something bigger get it.The vw is a vanity purchase.
-
vw all the way if finances allow
-
Slumps, which tank/system do you have fitted in the Scudo? I want to change vehicles soon and want the same "capability" as you have in the scudo- around 800 litres and two man set up with ladders inside. Is there still enough room for other gear like a pressure washer or guttervac? Cheers. Also, are the running costs ok?
-
there is room yes.Remember i have a long wheel base high roof scudo with a 1200 payload.
The 2.4m ladders fit inside the roof.A three section ladder is split into one bit and two bits.A couple of poles go up there too.
The tank is skid mounted and pro installed.It's high and my(two) reels are mounted off the cross bars that support the ladders(installed by tank fitters).Because it's high you get more floor space, and can use the last drops of water when it runs low.
It does pitch a bit as you drive but i don't find this a problem.
There is room at the back of the van but mine is full of junk because i'm untidy.
It's good having the ladders inside the van because when i used a roof rack they came off a couple of times.
I do think the twin doors is a very good way to work.If i worked out of one door i would look at those stacking reels Alex has.
The other vans to consider are a vivaro type( a version with a high payload), a ducatto, or a transit.
-
The Toyota Hiace has a similar payload and is a excellent van.
Rob.
-
can i ask what are stacking reels thanks
-
can i ask what are stacking reels thanks
here ya go
http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/1125stacked_reel.jpg
-
thanks not seen these before
-
Slumps, if you want to move your business forward and be the best you need a VW Transporter, not some Italian thrown together toy van, you disappoint me, I thought you were better than that. ;D ;D
-
we have an older shape expert (same van as a scudo) and a 174bhp transporter - the transporter is a good van but when things go wrong they are expensive to fix.
-
all hail slump!
-
Slumps, if you want to move your business forward and be the best you need a VW Transporter, not some Italian thrown together toy van, you disappoint me, I thought you were better than that. ;D ;D
I have two vans both a year old now. A medium wheel base transit and a long wheel base scudo as well as a rav 4 car.
Although slump hall has enough room for a couple more vehicles on the drive i do live on an estate, albeit of larger executive style homes.My wife thought it unfair on the neighbours to have another big van such as a ducatto.We settled on the scudo because it was smaller but with a big payload.Inside it is fitted out with state of the art technology that makes it the most efficent and fastest window cleaning machine in the country.There's lot's i don't post on here(3yrs in front stuff), and like you lots of little hints and tricks that i've pinched off here and squireled away too.
For example it's not just the back of the van, but the cab is a sort of mini office that can execute admin on the fly.Probably as much thought and design went into this as the system layout.When i get stuck i post on here and either someone will tell me or there will be some kind of row that will stimulate me into solving the problem myself.A lot of the stuff is detailed and probably obsessive.If i ever took it to the cleaning show car park and left the door open i think there could be a mini riot.The suppliers would have the pads out scribbling down the ideas and the window cleaners would be walking round the stands inside thinking, this is the afterbirth, the baby's outside.It has been pointed out to me that more money could be made with two vans of a bog standard design, and why waste money on making the job easier and pleasanter for a helper.I haven't got a really good answer to that. I must be all heart.
I do like your way with words slumps, can't your get a stand at the cleaning show, have your van there and sell your ideas. :D
-
I like your style Slumps. If I had the brains, energy and skill, I would attempt to improve the way I do the job more than I do. I do want to make the right decisions when replacing my van/system though which is why I am interested in your set up.
Do you think buying a new van is cheaper in the long run than opting for a seconhand one? I can't decide which is best.
-
New van?
Don't know i've done both.
Bought a ducato for 2k owned it seven years spent 5k on new engine and gearbox before scrapping it.Got tired of fixing it and chasing mechanics.
Next van ducato brand new 11k.Owned for nine years no money spent sold for 1k with 35 k on the clock.
Next van when i started wc s/hand scudo 8k 3yrs old. No problems, changed because i wanted a bigger payload.
I'm useless at buying and selling vans and have no interest.I have tried on the internet but it's a lot of driving about to look at junk.
New vans do allow you to get on with your business, not even an mot for three years.They also make you feel good about your work which i think is also important.There are enought things stopping you going out the door as it is without negative feelings towards your vehicle.
Most decisions feel like big ones at the time, but when you look back they were details, and you would have done well no matter which you had chosen.
-
Cheers. If I can get a good deal on a new van then that i think that will make life easier. My van runs OK but when anything does go, it's time not working and £300 minimum {exhaust/drive shafts etc}. I have another 30k leaflets out next week by the way, so if it brings a good response, I will bring the purchase of a new van forwards.
When you say you have the tank fitted on a skid, how does that help and can you recommend an installer?
-
I've had a scudo and thought about getting a second one, but ended up getting a VW T5 instead.....wise decision, ....they're really good vans until you get the snow, when a 4x4 version would have been favourable ;D
-
ive got a dispatch. just thought ide let u all know works ok but would love a vw. ide like a vm camper with a slim line water tank fitted to the floor so i could go camping at the weekend :)