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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Carpet Dawg on February 02, 2011, 12:37:38 am

Title: 300 RPM too fast for agitaion and bonneting
Post by: Carpet Dawg on February 02, 2011, 12:37:38 am
Thinking about buying a slow speed rotery for agiation purpose and also for bonneting the carpet once HWE.

I found a 2nd hander on a website but its rated at 300rpm. Is this too high for carpets? I am no expert in bonneting/LM cleaning so dont want to scorch a clients carpet lol

Also, out of these http://www.wcsuk.com/acatalog/Numaticbrushes-2.html Which is the best for agiating pre-spray?

And is this http://www.amtechuk.co.uk/shop/Soil_Sorb_Carpet_Bonnet-pid-234.html Good for bonneting a carpet once HWE? Mainly want to do this to dry them out quicker and on the odd occasion where the carpet is still showing signs of shadowing etc

thanks
Tony
Title: Re: 300 RPM too fast for agitaion and bonneting
Post by: markpowell on February 02, 2011, 10:33:57 am
170 ish  is better mate
Mark
Title: Re: 300 RPM too fast for agitaion and bonneting
Post by: Griffus on February 02, 2011, 11:04:57 am
I use a 17" Victor Standard Speed. All of our rotaries are Victor's and they are pretty much bulletproof.

Definitely stick with standard speed. 15" or 17" will do. We have 17 because we have three the same and we can switch pads / driveboards depending on the job.

Quick search on ebay found a cheapie. I've also listed one of that A3 Machines are selling. I've had a couple from them and would recommend. Rather than buy on line though give them a call and speak to Charles or Olie. Ask for their recommendations and best price. They have hundreds of machines in so will always be able to supply. Good after sales service too.


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/slow-speed-victor-floor-buffing-machine-/260730645693?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3cb4c1ecbd

http://www.floorcleaningmachinesuk.com/reconditioned/floor-polisher/floor-polisher/17-sprite-slow-speed.html

Title: Re: 300 RPM too fast for agitaion and bonneting
Post by: Linds Russell on February 02, 2011, 12:46:42 pm
I have a Victor too and its a great piece of kit. A mate of mine has an Orbis rotary and thats also a great machine.

It makes such a massive difference for agitation on really manky carpets. You will wonder how you managed without it beforehand.
Title: Re: 300 RPM too fast for agitaion and bonneting
Post by: jasonl on February 02, 2011, 02:29:18 pm
I only use 380 rpm setting on my twin speed , no problems yet.
Title: Re: 300 RPM too fast for agitaion and bonneting
Post by: Jamie Pearson on February 02, 2011, 03:40:16 pm
Low & Slow

Lambswool bonnets are best for absorbing moisture after cleaning.

Striped or microfibre bonnets for low profile cleaning.

300 should be okay. Just dont let the pad dry out too much.
Title: Re: 300 RPM too fast for agitaion and bonneting
Post by: clinton on February 02, 2011, 04:42:54 pm
Use a few victors and they run at 170 and thats fast enough for me.

Did try a faster one and the spray went all over  ;D

Thats the secret to keep it damp all times to stop any scorching mate.

Title: Re: 300 RPM too fast for agitaion and bonneting
Post by: Jamie Pearson on February 02, 2011, 04:47:55 pm
....and dont start it without a pad on.
Title: Re: 300 RPM too fast for agitaion and bonneting
Post by: clinton on February 02, 2011, 04:53:42 pm
Did that many years back and thankfully it didnt move,just gave a small puff of smoke as the drive board sticking on the floor  burnt the solanoid out ::)
Title: Re: 300 RPM too fast for agitaion and bonneting
Post by: Steve. Taylor on February 02, 2011, 04:54:05 pm
I confess i did that once ::) had to take a tile up in the storage cupboard and switch ;D
hope no ones reading this ;D
Title: Re: 300 RPM too fast for agitaion and bonneting
Post by: Steve. Taylor on February 02, 2011, 04:56:15 pm
Clinton LOL my one shot the 500x500 tile about 12feet across the room ::)
Title: Re: 300 RPM too fast for agitaion and bonneting
Post by: Jamie Pearson on February 02, 2011, 05:11:55 pm
Watching someone do it is most amusing.

Do you let it go or do you hold on?
Title: Re: 300 RPM too fast for agitaion and bonneting
Post by: clinton on February 02, 2011, 05:34:13 pm
I hold on steve ;D

Easy done mind and thankfully no damage to carpets ..
Title: Re: 300 RPM too fast for agitaion and bonneting
Post by: Carpet Dawg on February 02, 2011, 06:37:05 pm
Thanks for the replys guy.

I'll be mainly using it on households so i think i'd be better getting a 15 incher.

Thanks for the links Ian. I've contact the ebay seller.

Doe anyone have any views on the shampoo brushes? which would be best for a good scrubbin?!

Cheers
Tony
Title: Re: 300 RPM too fast for agitaion and bonneting
Post by: Steve. Taylor on February 02, 2011, 06:40:53 pm
Tony the link you put up you want the shampoo brush normally poly prop
the scrubb/ hard floor brushes are normally nylon
Title: Re: 300 RPM too fast for agitaion and bonneting
Post by: Carpet Dawg on February 02, 2011, 07:05:20 pm
Cheers Steve!  :)

I want one to pay with NOW!!  ;D
Title: Re: 300 RPM too fast for agitaion and bonneting
Post by: Neil Williams on February 02, 2011, 08:54:03 pm
....and dont start it without a pad on.

Yeh I've done it and you only do once with the tex rotary as the spikes that are there to hold the pad on are quite long and rigid.
I couldn't have been far off breaking a wrist as the spikes gripped the carpet and the machine decided to rotate....with me still attached
Like I said you only do that once 8)
Title: Re: 300 RPM too fast for agitaion and bonneting
Post by: Griffus on February 02, 2011, 09:37:27 pm
http://www.victorfloorcare.com/groups/BRUSH__Brushes_Boards?page=1

All the info you could need. A great supplier too.
Title: Re: 300 RPM too fast for agitaion and bonneting
Post by: Griffus on February 02, 2011, 09:41:08 pm
Back in the days when I was just a teenager I was part of this government cover up AKA a YTS.

When it came to clean up time we used to take it in turns to ride the rotary around the room. Turn it backwards, stand on the plate and pull the trigger.

Loads of fun, although should only be attempted by trained professionals weighing in at less than 9 stone!!!
Title: Re: 300 RPM too fast for agitaion and bonneting
Post by: M.Acorn on February 02, 2011, 11:04:37 pm
Used to ride them down the kitchen corridors too when i was doing my chef training
Title: Re: 300 RPM too fast for agitaion and bonneting
Post by: murky on February 05, 2011, 07:38:12 pm
Marc.

Is that why your tag line says 'what comes round goes around'.

Murky
Title: Re: 300 RPM too fast for agitaion and bonneting
Post by: M.Acorn on February 05, 2011, 08:26:53 pm
Ha ha yeah
Title: Re: 300 RPM too fast for agitaion and bonneting
Post by: The Carpet Cleaning Pro on February 05, 2011, 09:19:52 pm
Just picked this up of flea bay. What a bargain. Any one got a solution tank for it for sale?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160537751167&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
Title: Re: 300 RPM too fast for agitaion and bonneting
Post by: jasonl on February 06, 2011, 12:30:03 pm
Why do you want a tank for it ? Just prespray and away you go.

Think of all the hassle of a tank , imagine if you use half a tank on a job , you have to somehow empty the tank , or lift it into the van sloshing water everywhere. Not practical  really , trust me I have been there.
Title: Re: 300 RPM too fast for agitaion and bonneting
Post by: Steve. Taylor on February 06, 2011, 12:42:25 pm
Following on from jason's post i would normally only use the tank on hard floors

How to make a simple tank post LOL

Use a 5 litre clear plastic container drill a small hole in the lid fit a small brass gas tap with a length of wind screen washer hose.

Cut half the bottom of the container out with a sharp stanley knife sand paper rough edges

Make up a bracket and strap to machine. All done for £6

Wait for it you can't do that it is not professional ::) you got to spend a £100 on a tank that drips ;D
Title: Re: 300 RPM too fast for agitaion and bonneting
Post by: The Carpet Cleaning Pro on February 06, 2011, 03:05:36 pm
What would you reccommend as for the best type of pads to use for bonnetting... Lambs wool??? Where is best place to buy from?
Title: Re: 300 RPM too fast for agitaion and bonneting
Post by: Steve. Taylor on February 06, 2011, 03:46:13 pm
Monty i have just bought 10 of these se johnson pads only used 1 as yet but nice pad good price too

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Carpet-Cleaning-low-moisture-pads-fit-17inch-machine-/250768029146?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3a62f075da