Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Moderator David@stives on January 29, 2011, 09:30:32 am
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I have a national company who owes me megabucks, has anyone on here been in that situation and how did you handle it. They are putting one obsticle after another in the way of payment.
I would be interested to hear from some of the larger window cleaning companies.
Also at what stage can you apply the 8% for small business late payment.
I know I will get some money eventually, They will find ways to wriggle out of some of the payments
This is giving me serious stress
please feel free to email or call
Cheers Dave
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heres an idea i got from an experienced man -use GREED to lure them into paying .
this was what happened to me in a previous biz- a guy owed a packet to me so i lured him by offering him a whole bunch of stuff at rockbottom price ,but casually mentioned could he pay me the bit already owed first. worked a treat !
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if dave's asking for advise
the company arnt for paying
could it be a company i know well
who used to pay on time n now pay
in bits n drabs ???
il be interested in the outcome cuz im in the
same boat dave !!!!!
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Dave,
I had this a few years ago, I had to go see my bank manager for an overdraft as I was owed loads.
He told me about the interest late payment charge, but he did say be cautious as if you bill them the charge , the company that owe, might look somewhere alse for their work to be done and then take the pee out of the next contractor aswell.
Lets face it we mean nothing to them and there will be many willing to take on the work.
I didn't charge the company owing me I just upped the phone calls to every day,weathered the storm and eventually got paid
Darren
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Hi Dave
In a previous life i was owed About 10 k retention on cleaning we had done ,
we had finished for the builder and it was just not being paid , so had a word with my solicitor and he sent them one letter got my money on the next cheque run ;D
if its over i think 1k you can write and inform them that unless you are paid you will take legal actoin and apply to the courts to have there account frozen
you would need to see if that is still relevent but it worked for me in the 80s
just a thought ;D
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Dave as I already stated, you need to be carefull threatening solicitors letters and late payment charges may just push them on to the next contractor,
darren
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Darren
I am 100% finished with the company, All I want is my dosh
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Speak to your solicitor.
It'll probably cost a few bob to get a letter sent out. >:(
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Darren
I am 100% finished with the company, All I want is my dosh
are they fr cardiff dave
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I dont think a solicitor is necessary at this stage, somebody who is qualified in credit control and debt management initially
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No its not Cardiff
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No its not Cardiff
phew thank god for that ;) ;) ;)
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Dave check out this link.
http://sbinformation.about.com/od/bizlettersamples/a/debtcollection.htm
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When i do work for big companies I always invoice for payment witin 28days. At the bottom of my invoice I always state a late payment penalty of 20%.
After the 28 days I will phone and speak to the person who authorises payment, then to the person who writes cheques or deals with bank transfers Stating that they have the 28days and a 20% charge will be added if not paid within 7days.
if you still haven't recieved payment send a letter with copy of invoice stating that you will handling this over to dept recoverey agent if payment hasn't been made in another 7days sating that this could harm your credit rating for the future.
They soon pay then chap...But does take time though.
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Hi Dave
I have been in that situation before give me a phone call and I will talk you through what to do.
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Darren
I am 100% finished with the company, All I want is my dosh
Dave,
if this is the case,
send new invoice, with final demand and if bill not paid in seven days interest to be added written on it,
if no good send the next bill with interest on, with to be paid with in seven days
If no good you have no choice but go to a collection agency with the final invoice owed including the interest
Darren
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i wouldnt go down the legal rout finish with them and collect the money if you can or a debt collection service are they giving more then 90 days or 60
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I have a national company who owes me megabucks, has anyone on here been in that situation and how did you handle it. They are putting one obsticle after another in the way of payment.
I would be interested to hear from some of the larger window cleaning companies.
Also at what stage can you apply the 8% for small business late payment.
I know I will get some money eventually, They will find ways to wriggle out of some of the payments
This is giving me serious stress
please feel free to email or call
Cheers Dave
Dave
If I can help will gladly have some input
Questions
Your client, are they
Property owner, Duty holder
Managing Agent
A principle Contractor
Different approach for all
If it’s the later
As you will be aware they will be under a contract with built in payment terms and they should offer up same for you
Do you no who their client is…Managing Agent
Give me a call Monday
Dave Woods also is a good guy to talk to as both Dave and Paul have played the game for many years
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Dave,
If they are NOT doing a good job, so i reckon if it is, the main client wont pay.
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if you do go down the solicitor route, i know a good one if needed, just let me know,
cheers george
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If your owed money and they are overdue, you think they can pay but wont, you dont want to work fpr them anymore then I suggest to save costs.
Go online to https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk/web/mcol/welcome
This is online court service.
If they are Limited register your claim with their registered address if sole trader register it against home address.
This being the reason that they may not notice you have done it and if they dont respond you can register a CCJ against them and send in baliffs.
It takes about 14 days plus 5 days service (post) and will cost you depending on debt very little.
Dont let them mug you off anylonger. Its your money you done the work and it should be in your bank.
You can go online and do it tonight all you need is the amount and a brief history of how it come to this situation. Save the invoices until you get to court which never happens.
Some say this is ruthless but I dont get out of bed and work for free and non payers need to stop taking the mick out of us who are just trying to get by.
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Another option is a statutory demand
http://www.insolvencyhelpline.co.uk/legal_issues_explained/statutory_demand.php#WhatIsAStatutoryDemand
Its more of a bluff as it is costly to follow through. But if they owe the moeny fill in the form and make a big thing of handing it over it gives the company 21 days to respond with a good reason or the courts will wind up the company.
But you can always try this and if fails then go to small claims court as above.
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Hi Dave,
I would also recommend www.moneyclaim.gov.uk
We've used it many times to great effect, even with the biggest of outfits. Noone likes a claim against their name, we've often had the cheque the same day.
Cheers,
Huw
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How late is the payment, Dave?
The amount isnt important. But the overdue date is. Best practise is; Go and visit unannounced. It doesn't matter who you meet initially, just get in to speak to the right people politely. If they're not there then you go back, it depends on how big the debt, but you go back personally, and promptly, you may be getting in before the receivers do.
Always politely, with all your paperwork intact, seek the person who issues the purchase order, seek the individual who authorises the work, seek the person who pays the cheque. Follow this as far as you possibly can personally before you seek any other help. Don't be fooled into thinking that paid legal or strong arm help wil be more diligent than you in seeking your rightful payment. They too only want your money.
I have only lost £400 in 25 years.
8) ;)
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dave its greg penryn windows phone please ive lost your number 07837959218 .
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Darren
I am 100% finished with the company, All I want is my dosh
then small claims court,first thing tomorrow or tonight online then get on with your life