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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: telboy on January 21, 2011, 01:50:59 pm

Title: Cradle safety certificate
Post by: telboy on January 21, 2011, 01:50:59 pm
Anyone knows who I have to see about a safety certificate
the cradle belongs to me and is kept on site at a job we clean
its in the Heathrow area
Cheers
Title: Re: Cradle safety certificate
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on January 21, 2011, 03:34:43 pm
who maintains the rig and track
if its cradle runways ask them  ;)
Title: Re: Cradle safety certificate
Post by: trevor perry on January 21, 2011, 05:52:34 pm
Anyone knows who I have to see about a safety certificate
the cradle belongs to me and is kept on site at a job we clean
its in the Heathrow area
Cheers

 i have two electric cradle winches for sale if you require any spare
Title: Re: Cradle safety certificate
Post by: Andrew Willis on January 24, 2011, 03:22:58 pm
Anyone knows who I have to see about a safety certificate
the cradle belongs to me and is kept on site at a job we clean
its in the Heathrow area
Cheers
[/THope the following helps

There are three regimes that need to be in place when using and maintaining suspended access equipment

Thorough examination        (six monthly)
Inspection and maintenance    (quarterly)
Load test                  (annually)

Reference P/O =Property owner

The annual load test will include any tracks, turntables etc. To complete the annual test the appointed suspended access contractor will need to suspend test weights in a cradle and traverse the cradle the whole length of the tracks. My guess the appointed testing company will be using your cradle during the testing at present. If so your cradle should be listed on the P/O asset register, testing specification and therefore will appear on the Test certificate. If so one question at that stage is your equipment insured for use by you or the P/O ? The P/O also will employ a competent person to complete the six monthly thorough examination, normally the insurance inspector. This is really important to establish your cradle is built into these regimes. (cost covered by the P/O)  If not you will be responsible for employing a suitable contractor. Basically you owning the cradle will complicate the controls, and is unusual in any case. I am sure also it will increase the overall costs as no doubt you will want to pass on the costs. I would recommend approaching the P/O and see if they will purchase the cradle.

 The above is not conclusive as there will be other things to consider.... Lot of hassle for all 
 ]
Title: Re: Cradle safety certificate
Post by: telboy on January 25, 2011, 04:52:55 pm
Anyone knows who I have to see about a safety certificate
the cradle belongs to me and is kept on site at a job we clean
its in the Heathrow area
Cheers
[/THope the following helps

There are three regimes that need to be in place when using and maintaining suspended access equipment

Thorough examination        (six monthly)
Inspection and maintenance    (quarterly)
Load test                  (annually)

Reference P/O =Property owner

The annual load test will include any tracks, turntables etc. To complete the annual test the appointed suspended access contractor will need to suspend test weights in a cradle and traverse the cradle the whole length of the tracks. My guess the appointed testing company will be using your cradle during the testing at present. If so your cradle should be listed on the P/O asset register, testing specification and therefore will appear on the Test certificate. If so one question at that stage is your equipment insured for use by you or the P/O ? The P/O also will employ a competent person to complete the six monthly thorough examination, normally the insurance inspector. This is really important to establish your cradle is built into these regimes. (cost covered by the P/O)  If not you will be responsible for employing a suitable contractor. Basically you owning the cradle will complicate the controls, and is unusual in any case. I am sure also it will increase the overall costs as no doubt you will want to pass on the costs. I would recommend approaching the P/O and see if they will purchase the cradle.

 The above is not conclusive as there will be other things to consider.... Lot of hassle for all 
 ]

Thanks for all your help guys.
The upshot is the cradle has been condemned
as it does not have safety cables only the 2 load cables
mind you I have been useing it for the last 2 years
and didn't know
Title: Re: Cradle safety certificate
Post by: trevor perry on January 25, 2011, 07:27:19 pm
Anyone knows who I have to see about a safety certificate
the cradle belongs to me and is kept on site at a job we clean
its in the Heathrow area
Cheers
[/THope the following helps

There are three regimes that need to be in place when using and maintaining suspended access equipment

Thorough examination        (six monthly)
Inspection and maintenance    (quarterly)
Load test                  (annually)

Reference P/O =Property owner

The annual load test will include any tracks, turntables etc. To complete the annual test the appointed suspended access contractor will need to suspend test weights in a cradle and traverse the cradle the whole length of the tracks. My guess the appointed testing company will be using your cradle during the testing at present. If so your cradle should be listed on the P/O asset register, testing specification and therefore will appear on the Test certificate. If so one question at that stage is your equipment insured for use by you or the P/O ? The P/O also will employ a competent person to complete the six monthly thorough examination, normally the insurance inspector. This is really important to establish your cradle is built into these regimes. (cost covered by the P/O)  If not you will be responsible for employing a suitable contractor. Basically you owning the cradle will complicate the controls, and is unusual in any case. I am sure also it will increase the overall costs as no doubt you will want to pass on the costs. I would recommend approaching the P/O and see if they will purchase the cradle.

 The above is not conclusive as there will be other things to consider.... Lot of hassle for all 
 ]

Thanks for all your help guys.
The upshot is the cradle has been condemned
as it does not have safety cables only the 2 load cables
mind you I have been useing it for the last 2 years
and didn't know
the 2 cradle motors we have for sale do have the safety cables
Title: Re: Cradle safety certificate
Post by: telboy on January 26, 2011, 01:39:47 pm
Anyone knows who I have to see about a safety certificate
the cradle belongs to me and is kept on site at a job we clean
its in the Heathrow area
Cheers
[/THope the following helps

There are three regimes that need to be in place when using and maintaining suspended access equipment

Thorough examination        (six monthly)
Inspection and maintenance    (quarterly)
Load test                  (annually)

Reference P/O =Property owner

The annual load test will include any tracks, turntables etc. To complete the annual test the appointed suspended access contractor will need to suspend test weights in a cradle and traverse the cradle the whole length of the tracks. My guess the appointed testing company will be using your cradle during the testing at present. If so your cradle should be listed on the P/O asset register, testing specification and therefore will appear on the Test certificate. If so one question at that stage is your equipment insured for use by you or the P/O ? The P/O also will employ a competent person to complete the six monthly thorough examination, normally the insurance inspector. This is really important to establish your cradle is built into these regimes. (cost covered by the P/O)  If not you will be responsible for employing a suitable contractor. Basically you owning the cradle will complicate the controls, and is unusual in any case. I am sure also it will increase the overall costs as no doubt you will want to pass on the costs. I would recommend approaching the P/O and see if they will purchase the cradle.

 The above is not conclusive as there will be other things to consider.... Lot of hassle for all 
 ]

Thanks for all your help guys.
The upshot is the cradle has been condemned
as it does not have safety cables only the 2 load cables
mind you I have been useing it for the last 2 years
and didn't know
the 2 cradle motors we have for sale do have the safety cables

How much would you want for them
Title: Re: Cradle safety certificate
Post by: Darranvps on January 26, 2011, 02:10:47 pm
Hi

You could always ask us to clean it for you?
Title: Re: Cradle safety certificate
Post by: trevor perry on January 26, 2011, 04:21:06 pm


How much would you want for them
Quote

they are Astro powerclimber winches and brand new are about £6k each motor, they have had very little use and are like new they still have metal carrier box, you can have them both for £3k, if you want any photos or further info let me know.
Title: Re: Cradle safety certificate
Post by: telboy on January 26, 2011, 06:12:30 pm
Thanks for the offer Trevor but thats way too much for me
besides i cant see how they would power them ???
I have been asked to quote W/F Pole to do the job

Thanks all the same
Title: Re: Cradle safety certificate
Post by: Andrew Willis on January 26, 2011, 08:09:01 pm


How much would you want for them
Quote

they are Astro powerclimber winches and brand new are about £6k each motor, they have had very little use and are like new they still have metal carrier box, you can have them both for £3k, if you want any photos or further info let me know.
[Try Martin Parfett at SAS Suspended Access Services ...you can get a link to them on www.cleaning43.com]