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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: ants on January 20, 2011, 06:08:32 pm
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Is it true,? one of the suppliers makes this claim
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From my experience over the last couple of weeks............NO
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If you use I.......s you will probably find this not to be true as they supply cheap batteries and the heater packs in due to them having low voltage, so having hot water for more than five minutes is very rare.
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The first thing that happens to hot water is that it gets cold. So why should it dry any quicker?
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I think it dries, then gets cold. Look in your kettle and see it furring up.
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The hotter water is the quicker it evaporates. If it is evaporating or steaming at all while you are cleaning then I suppose it might dry quicker.
400 times quicker has got to be bollox though.
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The hotter water is the quicker it evaporates. If it is evaporating or steaming at all while you are cleaning then I suppose it might dry quicker.
400 times quicker has got to be bollox though.
yes very true
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talking of hot water is anyone using peter fogwill hot system ??? any good
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Water that dried quicker than you can clean, hmmm ???
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Just worked it out, If it takes say 1/2 hour to dry normally, then 400x faster it would dry in 7.5 seconds.
So if that was the summer time when the windows dry in 10 mins, 400x faster(i mean that you will have to work 400x faster) sounds tiring to me!
also the water would dry before the glass was rinsed of ???
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It does if you blade it off.
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talking of hot water is anyone using peter fogwill hot system ??? any good
I have been using it for 3 weeks, and it has fired every time and has run brilliant. It has supplied hot to 2 people all day.
But I need to upgrade to some heatproof hose.
Roy
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Water that dried quicker than you can clean, hmmm ???
yes it's a revolution called window DRY cleaning.
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talking of hot water is anyone using peter fogwill hot system ??? any good
I have been using it for 3 weeks, and it has fired every time and has run brilliant. It has supplied hot to 2 people all day.
But I need to upgrade to some heatproof hose.
Roy
would you say it makes the whole job easier Roy? using hot water that is?
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talking of hot water is anyone using peter fogwill hot system ??? any good
I have been using it for 3 weeks, and it has fired every time and has run brilliant. It has supplied hot to 2 people all day.
But I need to upgrade to some heatproof hose.
Roy
would you say it makes the whole job easier Roy? using hot water that is?
To be honest it has really surprised us how much better it is. A lot of my work is 8 and 12 weekly so some times they are very dirty. But they come up to a great shine with one pass of the brush.
I thought to use it on only cold morning's, but the difference is so great, we use it all day.
We also getting through jobs quite a lot quicker. They say it comes into its own on first cleans, so perhaps that's why we notice such a difference as a lot of jobs are large 8 - 12 weekly.
Roy
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talking of hot water is anyone using peter fogwill hot system ??? any good
I have been using it for 3 weeks, and it has fired every time and has run brilliant. It has supplied hot to 2 people all day.
But I need to upgrade to some heatproof hose.
Roy
would you say it makes the whole job easier Roy? using hot water that is?
To be honest it has really surprised us how much better it is. A lot of my work is 8 and 12 weekly so some times they are very dirty. But they come up to a great shine with one pass of the brush.
I thought to use it on only cold morning's, but the difference is so great, we use it all day.
We also getting through jobs quite a lot quicker. They say it comes into its own on first cleans, so perhaps that's why we notice such a difference as a lot of jobs are large 8 - 12 weekly.
Roy
Thanks for reply Roy, next question, do you think the extra cost of adding heat is offset by the extra work done? Reason I ask is that a lot of my work is 8 weekly and some of it, as you say, can be really dirty and this time of year it's a much harder job imo to shift dried on bird poo for eg.
Tom
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I agree with Roy, i also have one of peter's heaters. I would definitely say the cost of 200 quid is easily offset by the work done, even if its just being able to work one winter on the few freezing days/early mornings. I really do struggle to see hoe these 2-3000 pound heaters can pay for themselves, well not for years anyway.
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How much is Peters Heater and does anyone have a link to his website?
Matt
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its near as dam it 200 quid, its on the front page of his website at the top, well an order thing is. Thought u had packed up matt?
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How much is Peters Heater and does anyone have a link to his website?
Matt
your supposed have your head in a book studying up aren't you? ;D
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it dries quicker in the summer ;D
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Don't start til next September, plus been thinking about keeping some of my customers (as they are getting rid of EMA) and I'll need money lol
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Anyone have a link to Peters website?
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EMA......East Midlands Airport? www.window-tools.com
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Education Maintenance Allowance
Thanks for the link Chopsie
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Thanks for replies to original post.sounds like no then!
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Just worked it out, If it takes say 1/2 hour to dry normally, then 400x faster it would dry in 7.5 seconds.
So if that was the summer time when the windows dry in 10 mins, 400x faster(i mean that you will have to work 400x faster) sounds tiring to me!
also the water would dry before the glass was rinsed of ???
it would be dry before you put the water on the glass ;D
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talking of hot water is anyone using peter fogwill hot system ??? any good
I have been using it for 3 weeks, and it has fired every time and has run brilliant. It has supplied hot to 2 people all day.
But I need to upgrade to some heatproof hose.
Roy
would you say it makes the whole job easier Roy? using hot water that is?
To be honest it has really surprised us how much better it is. A lot of my work is 8 and 12 weekly so some times they are very dirty. But they come up to a great shine with one pass of the brush.
I thought to use it on only cold morning's, but the difference is so great, we use it all day.
We also getting through jobs quite a lot quicker. They say it comes into its own on first cleans, so perhaps that's why we notice such a difference as a lot of jobs are large 8 - 12 weekly.
Roy
Thanks for reply Roy, next question, do you think the extra cost of adding heat is offset by the extra work done? Reason I ask is that a lot of my work is 8 weekly and some of it, as you say, can be really dirty and this time of year it's a much harder job imo to shift dried on bird poo for eg.
Tom
Sorry for late reply been away the weekend.
I would say we are about and hour a day quicker some days more. And as we are keeping 2 people running with hot we are using about £1 a day in gas.
But there will be more cost for 100m of high temperature hose £119 + vat, as we use half inch tricoflex at the moment and it goes very soft. But with new 8mm hose we will be heating less volume of water in the hose so may be cheaper to run.
Roy
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NOOOO.
Concept2o claim its 4 times faster (400%).
the concept20 van and system on ebay last month, the seller said 400 times instead of %.
That's where it comes from.
4x or 400% is quite reasonable sounding. I don't know if its correct or not though.
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thanks Phil,that sounds about right
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This xtimes faster stuff doesn't make any sense whatever number is used.
4 times faster is meaningless.
Takes a quarter of the time would make sense though (dunno if this is true anyway).
Not sure if I will bother with hot myself.
In any case, I certainly won't be doing it until I change my van - and the way the finances are, I could be patching up the current one for quite a while.
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talking of hot water is anyone using peter fogwill hot system ??? any good
I have been using it for 3 weeks, and it has fired every time and has run brilliant. It has supplied hot to 2 people all day.
But I need to upgrade to some heatproof hose.
Roy
would you say it makes the whole job easier Roy? using hot water that is?
To be honest it has really surprised us how much better it is. A lot of my work is 8 and 12 weekly so some times they are very dirty. But they come up to a great shine with one pass of the brush.
I thought to use it on only cold morning's, but the difference is so great, we use it all day.
We also getting through jobs quite a lot quicker. They say it comes into its own on first cleans, so perhaps that's why we notice such a difference as a lot of jobs are large 8 - 12 weekly.
Roy
Thanks for reply Roy, next question, do you think the extra cost of adding heat is offset by the extra work done? Reason I ask is that a lot of my work is 8 weekly and some of it, as you say, can be really dirty and this time of year it's a much harder job imo to shift dried on bird poo for eg.
Tom
Sorry for late reply been away the weekend.
I would say we are about and hour a day quicker some days more. And as we are keeping 2 people running with hot we are using about £1 a day in gas.
But there will be more cost for 100m of high temperature hose £119 + vat, as we use half inch tricoflex at the moment and it goes very soft. But with new 8mm hose we will be heating less volume of water in the hose so may be cheaper to run.
Roy
Thanks Roy, appreciate your replies, Tom :)
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