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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Shaun_Ashmore on January 16, 2011, 07:53:09 pm

Title: Anyone know who this is?
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on January 16, 2011, 07:53:09 pm
www.thebestcarpetcleaners.co.uk/carpetcleaning.html

www.thebestcarpetcleaners.co.uk/midlands/carpet-cleaning-areas.html

Just seem to cover everywhere.

Shaun

PS being nosey
Title: Re: Anyone know who this is?
Post by: Doctor Carpet (Ret'd) on January 16, 2011, 08:02:19 pm
Sounds like me-but it's not ;)

Reasonable prices as well.

It doesn't cover Sheffield Shaun so you should still be ale enough to uy a few crusts to feed the kids. ;D

Rog
Title: Re: Anyone know who this is?
Post by: Mike Halliday on January 16, 2011, 08:06:14 pm
Sounds like me-but it's not ;)

Reasonable prices as well.
Rog

1 Bed flat = £69                                 

2 Bed flat = £87                                 

3 Bed flat = £98                                 

1 Bed house = £83                             

2 Bed house = £98                             

3 Bed house = £109   

4 Bed house = £131

is 'reasonable' another way of saying cheap?
Title: Re: Anyone know who this is?
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on January 16, 2011, 08:11:20 pm
Rog if you look at the 2nd link you'll find he does, seen worse prices than that on the web I think it's sold quite well lot of area to cover for those prices unless they have agents doesn't look like a big multi van company to me.

Shaun
Title: Re: Anyone know who this is?
Post by: Doug Holloway on January 16, 2011, 08:31:09 pm
Hi Guys

Shaun, it also covers my area so there is no way it's a one man set up.

Using Google adwords to target all over, your post must have cost them a small fortune ;)

Cheers

Doug
Title: Re: Anyone know who this is?
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on January 16, 2011, 08:40:30 pm
Ha ha never thought of that Doug.

Shaun
Title: Re: Anyone know who this is?
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on January 16, 2011, 08:43:34 pm
thebestcarpetcleaners.co.uk

    Registrant:
        kevin spencer

    Registrant type:
        UK Individual

    Registrant's address:
        9 duchy drive
        paignton
        paignton
        TQ3 1HB
        United Kingdom
Title: Re: Anyone know who this is?
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on January 16, 2011, 08:52:11 pm
And again

www.localcarpetcleaners.net/mlands/index.html

Shaun
Title: Re: Anyone know who this is?
Post by: clinton on January 16, 2011, 08:54:22 pm
Looks like there down soulth shaun mainly. ???
Title: Re: Anyone know who this is?
Post by: Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus) on January 16, 2011, 08:54:31 pm
He gets the work and books subby's diaries for them - they get 40% of job price.
Title: Re: Anyone know who this is?
Post by: Carpet Dawg on January 16, 2011, 08:59:18 pm
Do you know him Steve?
Title: Re: Anyone know who this is?
Post by: Steve. Taylor on January 16, 2011, 09:04:12 pm
Shaun dont worry :'(  there isn't enough to keep ALL carpet cleaners going.

He will be working for Tesco's next week in the SEO department ;D

Title: Re: Anyone know who this is?
Post by: happy mondays on January 16, 2011, 09:05:41 pm
Shaun dont worry :'(  there isn't enough to keep ALL carpet cleaners going.

He will be working for Tesco's next week in the SEO department ;D




;D
Title: Re: Anyone know who this is?
Post by: Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus) on January 16, 2011, 09:06:29 pm
Do you know him Steve?

Spoke to him about 18 months ago, nice enough guy, no money in it for me though
Title: Re: Anyone know who this is?
Post by: Carpet Dawg on January 16, 2011, 09:24:32 pm
40% of those prices plus adword costs doesn't sound worth while to me.
Title: Re: Anyone know who this is?
Post by: Adam Fearnley on January 16, 2011, 09:27:32 pm
I worked for him for abit when I started up, yea nice guy, he subs jobs out
Title: Re: Anyone know who this is?
Post by: Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus) on January 16, 2011, 09:42:54 pm
40% of those prices plus adword costs doesn't sound worth while to me.

He gets 60%, subby 40%
Title: Re: Anyone know who this is?
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on January 16, 2011, 09:47:47 pm
It was more idle curiousity I don't have a problem with it/him just Sunday evening surfing, don't think I'd like 40% of the price of those 3pc suite prices though but for a new starter could be worth a punt.

Shaun
Title: Re: Anyone know who this is?
Post by: Doctor Carpet (Ret'd) on January 16, 2011, 09:58:52 pm
Interesting the way he implies there is no VAT. Given what looks like the size of his operation those prices will have to include VAT as well. I wonder how the 40% split takes that into consideration?


Mike

I was looking more at his individual prices rather than whole accommodation prices. Not expensive but on the face of it not exactly cheap/bait and switch type prices.

Rog
Title: Re: Anyone know who this is?
Post by: Carpet Dawg on January 16, 2011, 10:09:31 pm
40% of those prices plus adword costs doesn't sound worth while to me.

He gets 60%, subby 40%

ah i get ya Steve.

I wonder how these kinda operations work, as in upsells OR the cleaner giving the cutsomer their business card so that the client goes directly to him next time they need a clean... How do you combat that?

Has anyone here (i'm sure there's a few) employeed lads to go out and clean carpets on thier own??

Its an idea I have been wanting to do for years but always feared in case they decide to set up on thier own, taking a % of my  busines with him.. after I have tought him the trade secrets!  :(
Different if its commercial work you get them to do i guess.
Title: Re: Anyone know who this is?
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on January 16, 2011, 10:29:51 pm
I think it depends on how you sell your service if you sell personal service then you may have problems.

Shaun
Title: Re: Anyone know who this is?
Post by: Carpet Dawg on January 16, 2011, 10:39:18 pm
Yeah, this is the problem i think Shaun.

Title: Re: Anyone know who this is?
Post by: robert meldrum on January 16, 2011, 11:03:34 pm
It's been done very successfully through the Central Belt of Scotland some time ago with the owner making a lot of money at less than half the charges shown here.

Certainly not marketed as  " the best " it was very much " maintenance " type cleaning with a lot of feathering and minimal furniture movement but the owner made a lot of money and converted it into bricks and mortar.

Title: Re: Anyone know who this is?
Post by: ianharper on January 17, 2011, 07:11:27 am
it works because he has cash flow and does his numbers. as long as he does not want repeats it will (and by the looks does) work great. with no overheads apart from adwords he is in the money. not all business models are the same. when you look at it he is never held back by the hours in the day.

respect

Ian Harper
Title: Re: Anyone know who this is?
Post by: Paolo on January 17, 2011, 07:58:35 am
40% of those prices plus adword costs doesn't sound worth while to me.

He gets 60%, subby 40%

ah i get ya Steve.

I wonder how these kinda operations work, as in upsells OR the cleaner giving the cutsomer their business card so that the client goes directly to him next time they need a clean... How do you combat that?

Has anyone here (i'm sure there's a few) employeed lads to go out and clean carpets on thier own??

Its an idea I have been wanting to do for years but always feared in case they decide to set up on thier own, taking a % of my  busines with him.. after I have tought him the trade secrets!  :(
Different if its commercial work you get them to do i guess.

That appiles to any business.

If you can't get around that mind set, you'd never expand beyond a one man set up.
Title: Re: Anyone know who this is?
Post by: Ian Gourlay on January 17, 2011, 10:05:02 am
Do these operations charge by Credit Card in Advance?
Title: Re: Anyone know who this is?
Post by: Ian Gourlay on January 17, 2011, 10:15:54 am
Well if I was happy to clean a 3 bed house move funiture etc for £40 I would put ot loads of leaflets

Wonder what the response rate would be.

If this Guy is not VAT registered he needs reporting
Title: Re: Anyone know who this is?
Post by: garry22 on January 17, 2011, 01:30:02 pm
Here's the main queries...


Title: Re: Anyone know who this is?
Post by: davep on January 17, 2011, 04:25:22 pm
What programme is that Gary?
Title: Re: Anyone know who this is?
Post by: clinton on January 17, 2011, 04:30:24 pm
What does all that mean gary is it good etc please ???
Title: Re: Anyone know who this is?
Post by: garry22 on January 17, 2011, 05:18:56 pm
Hi guys,

It's free stats from www.alexa.com    It rates websites worldwide

They do a toolbar that you can download, that gives you ratings for sites.

A word of warning... this is not 100% accurate. The site has to be in their index to be rated, which not all are. Sometimes, keywords do not show up at all but it's useful (and free).

The Alexa score is a rough idea of visitors to a site. The lower the Alexa score, the better (I think Youtube is 3 or 4).

For cleaning sites, one million is pretty good, over say, twelve million is pretty crap. Some are twenty million plus (effectively, no visitors).
Title: Re: Anyone know who this is?
Post by: The Carpet Cleaning Pro on January 17, 2011, 05:23:45 pm
Hi Guys

Shaun, it also covers my area so there is no way it's a one man set up.

Using Google adwords to target all over, your post must have cost them a small fortune ;)

Cheers

Doug

Oups I pressed the Google ad... I just had to have a look... never thought of pressing the link you put up for them Shaun
Title: Re: Anyone know who this is?
Post by: Carpet Dawg on January 17, 2011, 06:28:39 pm
40% of those prices plus adword costs doesn't sound worth while to me.

He gets 60%, subby 40%

ah i get ya Steve.

I wonder how these kinda operations work, as in upsells OR the cleaner giving the cutsomer their business card so that the client goes directly to him next time they need a clean... How do you combat that?

Has anyone here (i'm sure there's a few) employeed lads to go out and clean carpets on thier own??

Its an idea I have been wanting to do for years but always feared in case they decide to set up on thier own, taking a % of my  busines with him.. after I have tought him the trade secrets!  :(
Different if its commercial work you get them to do i guess.

That appiles to any business.
If you can't get around that mind set, you'd never expand beyond a one man set up.

I understand where your coming from Paolo but doesn't aplly to alot of businesses. i.e. relativley cheap setup (compared to renting out a shop, paying rates, setting up a shop etc etc) and many other factors like carpet cleaning being a niche spacific service and the fact that we CC rely heavly on repeat/regular customers.

Just the way I see it I guess. You dont see many multi van carpet cleaning operations.
Title: Re: Anyone know who this is?
Post by: The Carpet Cleaning Pro on January 17, 2011, 11:09:12 pm
Interesting the way he implies there is no VAT. Given what looks like the size of his operation those prices will have to include VAT as well. I wonder how the 40% split takes that into consideration?

He doesnt take the money ... the carpet cleaner does. His income is a % payed by the carpet cleaner to him, so probably not even vat registered. Who is to say it gets loads of work anyway. The risk is not his... it is the carpet cleaners who pays for the google ads so he has the risk.