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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: MNWC on January 14, 2011, 04:16:42 pm

Title: How much do you make out of your employees
Post by: MNWC on January 14, 2011, 04:16:42 pm
As above really.

After all expenses ie van,fuel,wages etc how much profit do you get out of your employees.

just worked mine out and wanted to see if it tallys up with others.

Thanks.

Marcus

Title: Re: How much do you make out of your employees
Post by: MNWC on January 14, 2011, 05:14:04 pm
36 views and no reply s  ???
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Post by: formb on January 14, 2011, 05:37:21 pm
36 views and no reply s  ???

60 now..........
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Post by: S.A.J on January 14, 2011, 05:37:36 pm
Not enough  ;D
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Post by: supernova77 on January 14, 2011, 05:44:40 pm
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As above really.

After all expenses ie van,fuel,wages etc how much profit do you get out of your employees.

just worked mine out and wanted to see if it tallys up with others.

Thanks.

Marcus

Marcus - You haven't said how much you make from your employees?

I doubt many would be willing to divuldge that information on a public forum?

Andy
Title: Re: How much do you make out of your employees
Post by: MNWC on January 14, 2011, 05:51:37 pm
As a percentage its 47 %

I forgot everyones talking about diets  ::) ::)
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Post by: gordonswindows on January 14, 2011, 05:53:54 pm
We charge flat rate 2.5 times the costs

Gordon
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Post by: david thomas on January 14, 2011, 06:13:16 pm
20% based in Blackpool depends where you live 
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Post by: Sean Dyer on January 14, 2011, 06:18:40 pm
47% you take home after taxes etc or is that the margin after overheads?

id imagine its a good rate whatever!
Title: Re: How much do you make out of your employees
Post by: Lee Pryor on January 14, 2011, 06:42:43 pm
I pay my staff 25% of whatever they turn over each day so that leaves me 75% which pays for everything else
Title: Re: How much do you make out of your employees
Post by: Clive McDonald on January 14, 2011, 07:01:43 pm
So, if i shared a van with an employee as a number two, and we achieved £350.

25% of £350 is £87.50.Half for me, half for him, £43.75 each.

Is this, in very simple terms, correct?
Title: Re: How much do you make out of your employees
Post by: MNWC on January 14, 2011, 07:17:58 pm
47% after expenses ie wages,insurances,fuel,road tax etc.
Title: Re: How much do you make out of your employees
Post by: steve rix on January 14, 2011, 11:42:09 pm
So, if i shared a van with an employee as a number two, and we achieved £350.

25% of £350 is £87.50.Half for me, half for him, £43.75 each.

Is this, in very simple terms, correct?

I wish my employees would be happy with £45 a day!! Double that
Title: Re: How much do you make out of your employees
Post by: steve rix on January 14, 2011, 11:44:21 pm
£45 my blokes would string me up!!!!!! :)
Title: Re: How much do you make out of your employees
Post by: alanwilson on January 15, 2011, 12:29:08 am
we work on the 3 times rule which is the normal with most businesses.  Our employees get 33% of what they do, so basically if he does 150 in a day he gets 50 of it but I pay them a minimum of 60 - they normally do at least 170 a day
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Post by: richywilts on January 15, 2011, 03:29:15 am
alan who does minimum 170 a day one man on own or is that a two man team
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Post by: Window Washers on January 15, 2011, 03:46:29 am
we work on the 3 times rule which is the normal with most businesses.  Our employees get 33% of what they do, so basically if he does 150 in a day he gets 50 of it but I pay them a minimum of 60 - they normally do at least 170 a day
so they dont get 33% then Alan, 170 is 56.10
Title: Re: How much do you make out of your employees
Post by: Ian Rochester on January 15, 2011, 08:30:06 am
Mine are paid a flat rate per hour plus a quarterly bonus.

I went down this route last year, before that they were paid purely bonus, however the negative for them was if they had a really bad week due to snow or similar they were making next to nothing and they weren't budgeting well enough to put something away for those times.

If the weather was bad in the morning they were just knocking off for the day as they weren't making anything, now I pay them for 7.5 hrs a day and it means that if the weather is bad in the morning I just tell them to sit it out until it improves in the day or I get them to do other work.

Their bonus rates are slightly lower now than previously as it's me that's taking all the risk, but they are guaranteed a wage every week regardless.
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Post by: lyndy on January 15, 2011, 08:56:45 am
Marcus think you are about right at 47%
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Post by: david thomas on January 15, 2011, 09:12:23 am
47% How? tell me please
Title: Re: How much do you make out of your employees
Post by: MNWC on January 15, 2011, 09:19:44 am
How what  ???
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Post by: ronnie paton on January 15, 2011, 09:46:13 am
window washers he says the minimum of £60 or 33% its pretty simple to understand

£170 would be per man richy and should be achievable with the right work.
Title: Re: How much do you make out of your employees
Post by: lyndy on January 15, 2011, 09:55:32 am
David man and a van turns over 40k he's wages 12-13k fuel ect 8-10k
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Post by: Richard Mortimer on January 15, 2011, 01:39:05 pm
Just a quick one.. I'm at £1500 per month.. I want to go down south for a month. My brother needs work - has anyone else employed someone and then managed everything from another city?
Title: Re: How much do you make out of your employees
Post by: Davo on January 15, 2011, 04:21:47 pm
So, if i shared a van with an employee as a number two, and we achieved £350.

25% of £350 is £87.50.Half for me, half for him, £43.75 each.

Is this, in very simple terms, correct?

No slumpy, he pays each man 25% of gross daily take. If 2 men go out on a van then each recieves 25% of the daily gross for that vehicle, which equates to 50% of the days gross on that van.

Its a good way for mr pryor to have control of his highest cost, labour. And also a good way to factor in cost to work schedules.

Title: Re: How much do you make out of your employees
Post by: alanwilson on January 18, 2011, 12:08:53 am
ronnie is correct - each man will normally do no less than £170, but they get paid £60 or more.

For example, last Friday the big cheese and myself cleaned £386 - we work at the same speed so its fair to say we both cleaned £193 of windows.

£193 x 33% = £63.69

now, do I pay the additional £3.69?  No, I may be a Scotsman but I'm not mean, I bumped it up to £70 and totalled up for the week.  I also buy his lunch for him.  That may sound like I'm being soft but really when you break it down, even if I have spent £15 on diesel for the day then he has still made me an additional £100  more than what I have done.

Anyone who employs long term will understand that if they are worth keeping then they are worth that bit extra.