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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: TomCrowther on January 12, 2011, 05:14:10 pm
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I know a few of you guys use the Aquadapter. I like the idea of it and am undecided whether to get one. What do you reckon? Do they really save enough time/water to make it worthwhile?
Cheers.
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im getting sick of my pole tap!the loop has been driving me crazy this afternoon!constantly twisting and kinking!ive spent half the time faffing about with the hose today!! >:( >:(
im sure an aquadaptor will be so much less hassle and quicker!im gonna order one methinks.i do think their a bit pricey at £60 though!! ::)
dazmond
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How are the guys getting on that bought the mark 2?
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i bought the first one and found it works for me,
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I have the mark 2, I really like it, but do not see a water saving really compared to when i has tap on a belt or auto brush.
dazmond, I can get you a fiver off, Just use AnthonySmith in the coupon bit and u get a fiver off. that goes for anyone else too
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I quite fancy one too, not for the water saving (Ive been using a tap) but just to get rid of that bleeding loop of hose!
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Get rid of the pole hose and use your microbore as pole hose, Best thing i ever did (that and muck boots!)
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Just do what i do, put a tap at brush...ok you cant turn it off when its up there, but i only want to turn it off when its collapsed and walking round corners...i think if youve got it up in air and you faffing pulling pole hose from one window to next thatd be wasting time.
Tap on top is brilliant and so handy...and costs about £3
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Get rid of the pole hose and use your microbore as pole hose, Best thing i ever did (that and muck boots!)
Does microbore fit in the aquadapter then chopsie? I thought they supplied their own "special" hose.
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Sorry, you have to have a length of pole hose so it sticks out the bottom of your pole 6-8 inches, then connect microbore to that and it goes up your pole when extended.
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Ah ok cheers :)
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still cant see the point of it.
no time saving as same as tap at end of pole.
water saving, same as tap at end of pole
Or have I missed something ?
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for me its ideal for how i use my pole (microbore as pole hose), also no wet leg from dripping connectors.
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I think they're worth every penny. Dragging a tap means more hose snags & time wasted reaching for the tap,.. having the tap on your belt means an extra loop of hose to trip over & possible wet leg. The aquaadapter is a vital bit of kit for me.
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Got the mark 1 - been using it for 6/7 months - would not be without it!
had to add an extra rivet as it started to wear - but all good.
defo, save water and time - and the biggest thing you notice is you dont get water all over the
walls when moving from window to window,
i also turn off for wiping the sill, this stops that annoying flood that brings out more debris as the brush goes
past.
Darran
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i also turn off for wiping the sill, this stops that annoying flood that brings out more debris as the brush goes
past.
Ditto, it also mean you can brush excess water off,thus reducing dripping from upstairs windows. (this can be done with a tap though)
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If you use a tap or trigger you prob won't see any saving in water, BUT you won't have the annoying loop of pole hose to get snagged and knotted, or if you let the tap run on the ground you won't have the keep picking it up. As smudger said you can quickly turn it of to wipe the sills.
I also have the same setup as choppsie, not having a pole hose is much quicker.
I have had the mk 1&2, and the mk2 is a big improvement over the mk1. I know they are pricy, but so is a supalite brush, but they are both excellent products, go and get one.
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i'm thinking of getting one , will save me a lot of time , i also like that you can operate manually when pole colapsed, or by pulling hose when pole extended.
daz
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I dont have tap on belt anymore as rectus fittings leak after a few days of hard use.
I am guessing you use the way gardiners fit there poles and fittings, I did try that way, but I didnt like the fact there was no tap, disconect pole and out runs the water. I could have missed the point.
Aquadapter I guess for them it would work, or could just change fittings to the other way round ???
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I dont have tap on belt anymore as rectus fittings leak after a few days of hard use.
I am guessing you use the way gardiners fit there poles and fittings, I did try that way, but I didnt like the fact there was no tap, disconect pole and out runs the water. I could have missed the point.
Aquadapter I guess for them it would work, or could just change fittings to the other way round ???
im not sure what you mean by the water running out, or the way gardiners fit there fittings/
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I think they're worth every penny. Dragging a tap means more hose snags & time wasted reaching for the tap,.. having the tap on your belt means an extra loop of hose to trip over & possible wet leg. The aquaadapter is a vital bit of kit for me.
Fit a tap on brush head before the Y peice...try it, works a treat.
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I dont have tap on belt anymore as rectus fittings leak after a few days of hard use.
I am guessing you use the way gardiners fit there poles and fittings, I did try that way, but I didnt like the fact there was no tap, disconect pole and out runs the water. I could have missed the point.
Aquadapter I guess for them it would work, or could just change fittings to the other way round ???
im not sure what you mean by the water running out, or the way gardiners fit there fittings/
pole is a male fitting straight. I have rectus 21 on mine meaning it stops water coming out of the pole, also means no waiting for water to get to end of pole each time saving time and making more money. the other way you have to wait and the water runs out
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Sorry, you have to have a length of pole hose so it sticks out the bottom of your pole 6-8 inches, then connect microbore to that and it goes up your pole when extended.
Chopsie
What fittings do you use, and which way round? Does it not get snagged when going up inside the pole?
Neil
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I think they're worth every penny. Dragging a tap means more hose snags & time wasted reaching for the tap,.. having the tap on your belt means an extra loop of hose to trip over & possible wet leg. The aquaadapter is a vital bit of kit for me.
Fit a tap on brush head before the Y peice...try it, works a treat.
what tap do you use ?
daz
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Sorry, you have to have a length of pole hose so it sticks out the bottom of your pole 6-8 inches, then connect microbore to that and it goes up your pole when extended.
Chopsie
What fittings do you use, and which way round? Does it not get snagged when going up inside the pole?
Neil
I use a male rectus(?) fitting on pole hose, and my microbore has a female rectus fitting on (sorry if thats obvious). It does sometimes catch the cap on the end of the pole on the way in, but mine has got a big hole in (came like that) and you get used to looking out for it. It does not catch inside the pole at all.
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Is a plumbing one, with about half an inch copper pipe coming off it and a few dubilee clips. Prob not the best but its robust.
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I dont have tap on belt anymore as rectus fittings leak after a few days of hard use.
I am guessing you use the way gardiners fit there poles and fittings, I did try that way, but I didnt like the fact there was no tap, disconect pole and out runs the water. I could have missed the point.
Aquadapter I guess for them it would work, or could just change fittings to the other way round ???
im not sure what you mean by the water running out, or the way gardiners fit there fittings/
pole is a male fitting straight. I have rectus 21 on mine meaning it stops water coming out of the pole, also means no waiting for water to get to end of pole each time saving time and making more money. the other way you have to wait and the water runs out
i dont really have a problem with that because i only have 5 foot of pole hose, the microbore then goes up the pole so there is no time waiting for the hose to fill back up.
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my priority is to make life as easy as possible so best gear i can afford.60 quid is nowt these days couple extra hours on a shift.for me taps etc were a right hassle,best invention since viagara ;)
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sounds like a resounding yes from the feedback so far. Many thanks guys, I will get one and enjoy a speedier, snag free life :)
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finally some one here listening to you sensae ;D yeh thats exactly what i do, jon guest fitting tap though. 8)
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Sorry, you have to have a length of pole hose so it sticks out the bottom of your pole 6-8 inches, then connect microbore to that and it goes up your pole when extended.
Chopsie
What fittings do you use, and which way round? Does it not get snagged when going up inside the pole?
Neil
I use a male rectus(?) fitting on pole hose, and my microbore has a female rectus fitting on (sorry if thats obvious). It does sometimes catch the cap on the end of the pole on the way in, but mine has got a big hole in (came like that) and you get used to looking out for it. It does not catch inside the pole at all.
Thanks for that.
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all sounds good!im sure id be a bit quicker without the bloody annoying loop!
so its ok to just have pole hose of say 8in sticking out of the pole when fully collapsed?then the connector and other hose goes up inside the pole?this sounds great!a lot less hassle with hoses!! ;D ;D ;D
has anyone got any pics of the aquadaptor and the short pole hose?
i bet its easier to put the poles in the van without all the extra hose as well!sounds like i need to wise up!!
dazmond
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See this topic and scroll down and you will see my set up, I use a rectus 21 and it goes up the pole nicely
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=115209.0
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Remember anyone ordering an aqua-dapter to insert AnthonySmith into the coupon box and you get £5 off. I do also get £5 credited to my account so we both win ;)
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Or if you prefer the name Lee you can put leereed in the box can the same will happen ;), sorry choppsie. ;D
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damn it, why did I buy minibore instead of micro ? gonna have to wait a while longer before trying this idea of replacing all that untidy pole hose , brilliant idea ;)
those who use this method with an aquadapter, does it work ok ? do the fittings stay water tight with the pulling on and off all the time, no snagging in the pole or coming disconnected ?
Simon
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i brought the mk1 a/d, and didnt get on with it, after several months of using it kept getting stuck.
but i informed a/d about the problem and i returned it to them and their customer service was very good.
i purchased the new mk2 a/d with the new thread adapter and it has been alot better imo.
overall i think its a good product and makes my working day easier, still a litttle dear though >:(
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damn it, why did I buy minibore instead of micro ? gonna have to wait a while longer before trying this idea of replacing all that untidy pole hose , brilliant idea ;)
those who use this method with an aquadapter, does it work ok ? do the fittings stay water tight with the pulling on and off all the time, no snagging in the pole or coming disconnected ?
Simon
i think you can still use your minibore, i cant say that is doesnt come disconnected in the pole but it would only happen about once a week if that, i have found that the rectus 21 fitting has been great, it doesnt leak, and pulling on it has no effect on the performace of it either.
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Simple and cheap
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=116141.0
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mine has never came undone in the pole, It also works brilliantly with aqua-dapter and never leaked. I cant see why mini bore would not work, Is that the 6mm stuff? mine is the 8mm stuff which I though was microbore. minibore would be even better, less weight in pole when full of water.
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mine has never came undone in the pole, It also works brilliantly with aqua-dapter and never leaked. I cant see why mini bore would not work, Is that the 6mm stuff? mine is the 8mm stuff which I though was microbore. minibore would be even better, less weight in pole when full of water.
no chopsie, other way around I have 8 mm (minibore), so same as you
I just thought it looked a bit on the big side to go in my clx but I stand corrected then. How much heavier does it make a pole feel in use ? I have a clx 27.
So as well as AD . I need some connectors (use a hozelock tap at mo) which ones and from where ?
Cheers, Simon
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Chops & Lee,
i like the sound of using shorter pole hose, but i have 2 concerns.....
1. the minibore o/d is around 12mm dia and weighs a lot more than pole hose so how is it over conny's etc..
2. does the metal fitting and o'clip scratch or damage the insides of the pole ?
Darran
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Chops & Lee,
i like the sound of using shorter pole hose, but i have 2 concerns.....
1. the minibore o/d is around 12mm dia and weighs a lot more than pole hose so how is it over conny's etc..
2. does the metal fitting and o'clip scratch or damage the insides of the pole ?
Darran
1. i have the micobore and i dont really notice much difference in the weight as its not all at one end of the pole it is spread up the whole length of the pole apart from the top section which has the normal pole hose in.
2. the fittings dont scratch or damage the inside they slide up and down nicely.
what pole do you use Darren?
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Chops & Lee,
i like the sound of using shorter pole hose, but i have 2 concerns.....
1. the minibore o/d is around 12mm dia and weighs a lot more than pole hose so how is it over conny's etc..
2. does the metal fitting and o'clip scratch or damage the insides of the pole ?
1. it is heavier, cannot remember how heavy my pole was before now though as I have had it like this for quite a while. it does not really affect me a lot as its only an odd window over connys etc, and i rinse on glass so the window takes the majority of the weight.
2. honestly do not know, It must do a bit, but not enough to make me go back to peeing about with all that pole hose!!
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i don't know what bloody hose i have now ??? I just bought a reel from purefreedom when i started out and it came with hose that i assume is 8mm.
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SLX - 25
will have to get some o-clips - as i only use jubies at the mo
Darran
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i have 5mm extension hose for my trolley which is the same as my pole hose so it should work out ok for me! ;) ;D ;D
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i just can not understand why even to this day 2011 a lot of wfp w/c are still using the caveman methods of water flow control, i worked out roughly, to pay for a modern technology flow controler like the aqua-daptor, or peter fogwills autobrush, this will cost you lab around 8 to 15 jobs, thats all it costs, then it is paid for, although i do admit, i keep the remote control, and tap at the brush connected as an emergency only,
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pole is a male fitting straight. I have rectus 21 on mine meaning it stops water coming out of the pole, also means no waiting for water to get to end of pole each time saving time and making more money. the other way you have to wait and the water runs out.
Hi Window Washers, some Aqua-dapter users have mentioned that if they leave the tap closed when packing away, the water is held in the hose by the "straw effect" (similar to if you put your finger over the end of a straw in a glass of water and take it out, the water stays in the straw).
If this works, then it should have the same effect that you describe, no waiting for the water to get to the brush head next time.
It's not something we've really investigated though, so the other guys using Aqua-dapters might comment on whether they've noticed that... but some have mentioned they're using rectus connectors anyway.
The problem I immediately think of is that this relies on the whole thing being air-tight so if the tap is knocked slightly you could suddenly get a hose full of water emptying out!
Paul
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Hi Paul,
i cant get through to you on your site for some reason,but i need some parts for my aqua adapter.
Malcolm
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Hi Malcolm,
Are you trying to use the Contact Form http://www.aqua-dapter.co.uk/pages/Contact.html or the Order Messaging system?
You can also email us on sales @ aqua-dapter .co .uk (take out the spaces) and we'll get things sorted for you.
Paul
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I have gardiners clx i take it would need the screw thread adapter to screw on the end of the pole and then fit the aquadapter.
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Hi pikeman,
Yes that's right. You'll need the 'Metal Thread' one - assuming your pole has a metal end screw.
Paul
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Thanks paul
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Hi pikeman,
Yes that's right. You'll need the 'Metal Thread' one - assuming your pole has a metal end screw.
Paul
i have a slx and my metal thread adapter keeps coming loose. ive tried plumbers tape on the slx thread which works for a time maybe half a day then i have to take it apart and do it again. any tips for keeping it on tight?
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Hi Mark,
Plumbers tape may not work that well as it's too soft. Instead try ordinary plastic electrical tape; 1 or 2 winds should be sufficient.
An alternative I found for a semi-permanent fixing is this: http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Adhesives+Sealants/General+Adhesives/Threadlock+Low+Strength+10ml/d180/sd2340/p21229
...it's advertised as
Low strength designed for easy disassembly.
...so should be OK, but remember that with the Screw Thread Adapter being smooth it could be difficult to get enough purchase on it to unscrew?
Hope this helps.
Paul
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Arrived today great service will fit the weekend. Noticed a smal spring in with the package is that just a spare?
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yes the spring is a spare.
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Got mine today and have been having a play and it seems like a really nice, well thought out bit of kit.
I just cant decide whether to cut off the hose and have the hose reel hose going up the pole or not??
Decisions decisions!!!
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thanks lee thought so
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I use my microbore as the pole hose, but i have to get my bigger pole out that has no aquadapter so i use the pole hose on it, and you can feel a difference in the weight, but it was on full extension, but for eveyday cleans i dont think you really notice the weight difference to much by using the microbore as the pole hose, even if you do, the benifits of not having to deal with the pole hose and the set up and pack up times being alot quicker make it worthwhile
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Noticed a small spring in with the package is that just a spare?
yes the spring is a spare.
Lee is quite right, it's a spare. We have had a few people experience the spring breaking. We're addressing this, and hope to make a decision on the new springs in the next few days.
In the meantime, we decided to send a spare with each Aqua-dapter.
Paul
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well made bit of kit. but with v a t .postage it works out a bit expensive ie postage iknow i sound tight but every pounds a prisoner these days ;D the add ons put me off may be free postage may increes sales just a thought
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every pounds a prisoner these days ;D
Yes, unfortunately it's the same here too at the moment, and I've just given away another 50p ;)
free postage may increes sales just a thought
We do offer free postage on orders over £100, so good for anyone with more than one pole :)
Also remember our Money Back Satisfaction Guarantee (http://www.aqua-dapter.co.uk/pages/Satisfaction-Guaranteed.html) and we're trying to build a reputation, not only for a quality product, but also hopefully for very good Customer Service.
Paul
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Been out this morning with aquadapter 1st impressions brilliant. Really fast delivery also. Back home now just too windy here.
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Have also used A/D for the first time today and I'm very impressed. Just takes a bit of getting used to ie; pulling hose instead of tap, but now there is no hose loop and my hose didnt catch on anything once, which to me is a massive help :). (Hopefully no more Basil Fawlty days!).
One little gripe tho is when extending pole, and hose (reel hose) goes up inside of pole, it sometimes catches and turns A/D on..although that is just the hose clamps catching on the base of the pole and not really the fault of the A/D.
Tomorrow I'm going to try it with more pole hose hanging out of the end. ;D
Great bit of kit Paul cheers :)
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Hi guys,
Been out this morning with aquadapter 1st impressions brilliant. Really fast delivery also. Back home now just too windy here.
Have also used A/D for the first time today and I'm very impressed. Just takes a bit of getting used to ie; pulling hose instead of tap, but now there is no hose loop and my hose didnt catch on anything once, which to me is a massive help :). (Hopefully no more Basil Fawlty days!).
One little gripe tho is when extending pole, and hose (reel hose) goes up inside of pole, it sometimes catches and turns A/D on..although that is just the hose clamps catching on the base of the pole and not really the fault of the A/D.
Tomorrow I'm going to try it with more pole hose hanging out of the end. ;D
Great bit of kit Paul cheers :)
Great news ;D
We're getting really good feedback with the Mk2, so I'm sure you'll be very happy with it.
Always happy to help if you have any questions.
Paul
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Long live aqua Dapter MK2 ;) :)
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Noticed a small spring in with the package is that just a spare?
yes the spring is a spare.
Lee is quite right, it's a spare. We have had a few people experience the spring breaking. We're addressing this, and hope to make a decision on the new springs in the next few days.
In the meantime, we decided to send a spare with each Aqua-dapter.
We have now had new springs made which are stronger and longer lasting. The real test will be when everyone gets their hands on them! ;) They will appear on the website in the next week or two, and will be put into new Aqua-dapters soon afterward.
There was a division of opinion (http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=107124.msg911761#msg911761) over the original hose we supplied. Although the feedback we received was 84% Good or Excellent (http://bit.ly/f7d2ss) we didn't like that some users got frustrated with it :-/
So, we've just started supplying new hose. We did our own tests, and a few customers agreed to test the hose for us too. Their comments are already on some forums, and will also appear on our blog in the next few days: http://aquadapter.wordpress.com/tag/hose/
If anyone has any questions about the above, just let me know.
Paul
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Just this sec ordered mine can not wait ;D
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Got mine 2 weeks ago and got to say, yes its good, had no tap previously, just used to kink hose ::), but wouldnt do without it now, saves having to run back to trolley to switch off when adjusting pole height etc. Didnt like the new red hose it came with at first, seems to have a mind of its own, keeps trying to roll back up.... but have gotten used to it now...vive la aquadapter!!!