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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: terrymaloy on January 10, 2011, 03:11:18 pm

Title: VAT increase = Price Increase ?
Post by: terrymaloy on January 10, 2011, 03:11:18 pm
Was just wondering because of the VAT increase, have you put your prices up ?
Title: Re: VAT increase = Price Increase ?
Post by: Adam P on January 10, 2011, 03:44:04 pm
at a guess i'd say everyone is still charging the same prices e.g. £40 for living room, then plus whatever vat is at, so customer will see an increase of 2.1% but the cleaners price will still bee the same.
Title: Re: VAT increase = Price Increase ?
Post by: richy27 on January 10, 2011, 06:28:05 pm
i dont think th 2 % increase will effect prices too much but prices should but prob wont rise with the increase in fuel and other direct costs.   
Title: Re: VAT increase = Price Increase ?
Post by: clinton on January 10, 2011, 06:35:14 pm
I think a lot of companies will absorb the increase in some case spec with small purchases.

Same prices really for me so wont be an increase for me here.
Title: Re: VAT increase = Price Increase ?
Post by: Griffus on January 10, 2011, 06:36:25 pm
Charge = Price + VAT

VAT has always made getting domestic custy's harder but I doubt the increase will affect this either way.

Title: Re: VAT increase = Price Increase ?
Post by: garyj on January 10, 2011, 09:50:02 pm
at a guess i'd say everyone is still charging the same prices e.g. £40 for living room, then plus whatever vat is at, so customer will see an increase of 2.1% but the cleaners price will still bee the same.

Do you give your domestic customers a price then add the VAT?  ( It's 2.5% BTW not 2.1)
Title: Re: VAT increase = Price Increase ?
Post by: Adam P on January 10, 2011, 09:56:40 pm
£100 plus vat etc.

it's a 2.1% (or there abouts) difference btw not 2.5% ;)
Title: Re: VAT increase = Price Increase ?
Post by: garyj on January 10, 2011, 10:00:46 pm
Maths isn't my strong point, can you please explain to me simply? Cheers
Title: Re: VAT increase = Price Increase ?
Post by: Adam P on January 10, 2011, 10:11:42 pm
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The increase will see the rate rise from 17.5% to 20% - meaning an extra 2.13p added ito products that had previously been sold for £1.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Business/VAT-Increase-25-Percent-And-Rises-To-20-Percent-Chancellor-George-Osborne-Hopes-For-Budget-Deficit/Article/201101115879089?f=rss

remember you can't just add another 2.5% to your prices to work out the increase. you need to remove the vat, so take 17.5% off your current total, then add 20%. the increase should be around 2.1% (i hope)
Title: Re: VAT increase = Price Increase ?
Post by: Mike Halliday on January 10, 2011, 10:12:36 pm
priced £100 vat @ 17.5%  = £ 117.50p

price £100 vat @ 20% = £120

The actual difference that the customer pays is 2.1%........I think

is that what adam is basing his figures on ????
Title: Re: VAT increase = Price Increase ?
Post by: Mike Halliday on January 10, 2011, 10:13:31 pm
adam answered as i was typing ;)
Title: Re: VAT increase = Price Increase ?
Post by: Matt Seymour on January 10, 2011, 10:22:31 pm
While the VAT increase doesn't make a particularly significant difference in real terms given the prices in this industry, it's the psychological effect of the increase that worries me.

People will now naturally feel a sense of dread when they hear anyone mention "VAT"

I wouldn't want to be charging VAT at the moment.
Title: Re: VAT increase = Price Increase ?
Post by: garyj on January 10, 2011, 10:28:02 pm
Don't get it!

120/117.5 x 100 = 102.127.

An increase of 2.1 %

But its gone up 2.5, where is the missing .4  ???
Title: Re: VAT increase = Price Increase ?
Post by: Doctor Carpet (Ret'd) on January 10, 2011, 10:40:49 pm
117.5 is 97.9% of 120 - the difference is 2.1

VAT has increased by 2.5 percentage points but is in fact an increase of 14.28%

The old fraction for extracting VAT from a VAT+cost figure was 7/47. This has now changed to 1/6.

The are lies, damn lies and statistics.

My brain is now hurting.

Rog
Title: Re: VAT increase = Price Increase ?
Post by: Ian Rochester on January 11, 2011, 05:21:17 am
Is this a maths class or what!
Title: Re: VAT increase = Price Increase ?
Post by: Dave_Lee on January 11, 2011, 05:02:58 pm
Or a simple explanation:-

Vat has increased by 2.5% meaning that the overall Vat INCLUSIVE price has increased by 2.1%

Dave.