Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Crystal-clear on January 03, 2011, 10:06:05 pm
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Are they really that bad ? i searched up found its taken alot of stick...
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Dont ask . >:( >:(
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they are brillaint if you get them sign written, that way when their broken down at the side of the road everyone will be able to see your number and services offered ;D ;D unfortunatly due to the fact they hardly ever run you will struggle to carry out any of the work
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vans are trouble some
though problems tend
to be pre 05 mine by the way
is 03 yrs for 2k ;)
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lol ok which van should i go for i can only afford like an 03 or or 04 max
im after an 800 liter tank so it needs to be a decent size.
Traffic/vivario = NO cos of gear box problems
Ford transit? an 02-04 plate are these decent?
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lol ok which van should i go for i can only afford like an 03 or or 04 max
im after an 800 liter tank so it needs to be a decent size.
Traffic/vivario = NO cos of gear box problems
Ford transit? an 02-04 plate are these decent?
Try mercedes vito/sprinter or a citroen relay
Danny
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transits are good vans
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transit are excellent vans, just part exd my 150k 52 reg tranny for a newer model, superb vans that do exactly what a van should do :)
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we have had a couple of old transits with high mileage but still good vans, another van to look at might be the ldv, not fast but weve had 3 or 4 and been very reliable and good workhorses
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If vyou a re going for a tranny check under the wheel arches for rust.
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lol ok which van should i go for i can only afford like an 03 or or 04 max
im after an 800 liter tank so it needs to be a decent size.
Traffic/vivario = NO cos of gear box problems
Ford transit? an 02-04 plate are these decent?
mines had no gear box probs
spent over 3k on 2 engine rebuilds
tidy van yrs for 2k ;) ;)
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Maaaaaaaaaate! Dont get me started i've used 2 in my time and every time the doors start playing up.
Can never open the buggers.
Also it has no cup holders "one of the most important things" ;)
Cheers James
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If you want a vivaro and you are on a tight budget then get a 51 or an 02 plate with a 5 speed gearbox I think these ones were ok
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Hi
had a good run in our vivaro 53 plat e 90000 only ever serviced and tyres. never broke down.
i would get the 2900 model can take big tank all kit and 3 blokes.
cheers
john
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transits are good vans
Rust kills them before anything elso does, even the newer ones
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never had a problem with mine
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I had an 04 Transit SWB T280 model,the wheel arches were going rusty and along the body work at the bottom,it never gave me any trouble only the rust and therefore I would'nt buy another one so I down graded to a Connect LWB and there is only 100 kg payload difference,at least if has rust around the arches you dont see it due to the plastic arches! ;D
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Im running a Movano, cheap to buy and takes 600L no problem not as nice looking as the trafic but a good workhorse.
Havent sold it yet then Gav? :)
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If you want a vivaro and you are on a tight budget then get a 51 or an 02 plate with a 5 speed gearbox I think these ones were ok
The thing is i do like the look of the vivaro... who would agree a 51 or 02 plate with a 5 speed gear box be decent?
IF its just rust on the wheel arches i guess this can be sorted out its things like gear boxes head gaskets, things like that that scare me,
i was hoping to go for transits but some of you dont like them cos of the rust thing how expensive is the rust to fix and will it come back how often?
How about vito/sprinter or citroen relay then?
im not looking for super van I do understand vans can go wrong, as a matter of fact my little combo went wrong it was gear reverse and gear 5 had it fixed from a back lane garage for £60 works fine now.
I am just wanting to get something thats not known to break down but i do need to get to the bottom of this i will need to get a new van very soon.
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Im running a Movano, cheap to buy and takes 600L no problem not as nice looking as the trafic but a good workhorse.
Havent sold it yet then Gav? :)
he cant get it out the garage to put a for-sale sign on it lol
ive got a LWB merc Vito - so far no problems , the go like stink ( 2.2 turbo ) only downside is my old citroen distpatch had more head room in the back , the vito's are quite low - o ' and the seats are rock hard !!!
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transits are good apart from rust. sprinters are fantastic apart from rust.
toyota hiace wont ever let you down EVER. not had any experience with french vans but from what i`ve heard they have more reliability issues than the above.
I personely dont need a big van right now so im using an escort van and again it rusts but its on 308,000 miles and i know i can take it around the world with confidence.
steve
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Havn't read all the posts so if i'm repeating myself i apologise. I wouldn't go near a vivaro pre 03 ... gear box probs. £2000 to replace! Trafic pre 04. After that your good to go. I've had both and would recommend them. They're by far the best looking vans out there in my opinion and don't rust either! Great price compared to the vw transporters vito etc. Plus there's far more room in them. And the main reason we purchase them is they have cup holders! ;) Hope this helps!
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Thanks for all input.
The vivario/traffic look great thats why i would like one but i dont
think i can afford a 05 plate +
So far it seems i should get one of these vans
Ford Transit,Citren relay,Vito 2002, 2003,
unless anyone disagrees will put an add up on gumtree
and look around on ebay and basically buy one!
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The Vivaros do look smart but I wouldn't get rid of my Y plate reliable Ford transit which I have had 4 years with very minor repairs and yes its a bit rusty but engines are reliable in them and that's what you want, I would recommend a transit or if I was to upgrade it would be another transit, merc, vw, or toyota I wouldn't bother with anything else.
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I have a 55 plate transit, had it over a year now and love it, But knew i would. I used to travel the country to construction sites in my previous job in a few different vans. Transits were always my favourite and most of the other lads preferred them too, the company then moved over to vivaro's, and the only good thing i can say about them is the go like poop off a shovel, They are uncomfortable to drive, and have little space in the front IMO. They were forever having major trouble with them, with at least 2 needing new engines!! Bag of poope IMO. Movano's are even worse. We used 2 vw transporter 5 seaters for a couple of years and they were great, I think even better than transits, But i could not afford one when I was after a van and needed 3 seats in the front. Vito's I never really liked, very plasticy in the cab, went very fast though, But never really liked them. Sprinters were ok, Just not very comfy compared to tranny.
Lets be honest, Ford has lead the way in car and van making for years, They constantly win awards and get excellent reviews for comfort and ride etc, But they do need to address the rust issues as vivaro's never seem to rust.
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As far as I know the gearbox problem was with the six speed ones upto about 2005 with the 1.9 engine if I was after one I would go for a facelifted 2.0 engine those are supposed to be ok but if money is tight then the early models with the 5 speed box are also supposed to be fine as it was the six speed boxes that caused all the problems
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Thanks for all input.
The vivario/traffic look great thats why i would like one but i dont
think i can afford a 05 plate +
So far it seems i should get one of these vans
Ford Transit,Citren relay,Vito 2002, 2003,
unless anyone disagrees will put an add up on gumtree
and look around on ebay and basically buy one!
If you go for an older Vito/Sprinter (2000 - 2003), rust is a big issue. Secondly they are renowned in the motor industry for injector problems, Whilst the injectors aren't that expensive to replace, ie reconditioned, they can sometime snap off leaving the thread stuck in the head. (Steel injector and alloy head react and 'corrode' together). To remove that broken piece of injector is expensive. The head needs to be removed and sent to a specialist who will slowly heat the head up in a furnace to such a degree that the broken piece of injector drops out. It then has to be cooled just as slowly to prevent it warping.
Once apart there is always something else to be sorted, ie valves and guides, timing chain, idlers and water pump.
So please make sure that you are covered with some sort of warranty. If not, buy expecting an issue and offer accordingly. Costs of £1200 - £1500 for this type of repair are usual.
Spruce
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told you count 2k out
n av a mint 03 trafic mine
its been rebuilt twice runs like a dream ;)
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my 07 Trafic is great. LWB, poles fit inside, comfortable and reliable.
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told you count 2k out
n av a mint 03 trafic mine
its been rebuilt twice runs like a dream ;)
I thought you was paying him 2 K to take it away Gav ;D
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Ok thanks everyone ,
chopsie i think you have convinced me
Looks like i have decided to go for the Transit 260,280, or 300 SWB (the nice neat looking one not to big) it will be for a 800l system
2002-2004 less then 70k miles service history no rust on wheel arches ;), must be white offering £3k you guys think thats reasonable?
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crystal yr missing a fab opp
you need my trafic its mint
2k to you delivered ;)
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crystal yr missing a fab opp
you need my trafic its mint
2k to you delivered ;)
2k for an 03 traffic it does sound good mate. but im scared of traffics,vivarios :)
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this van as had no expense spared
iv had it rebuilt twice
once cam belt failure £1200
head gasket £513.00
its also had brand new turbo £400.00 with warranty
new cat £225.00
done jus 96k 5mths mot
4 mths tax
its bullet proof
iv also got a set of 18" wheels yrs 2k
come get it ;)
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crystal u no
you want this van
also full roof rack
worth 3 ton ;)
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My god gav alot of spent on it, u think thse things wont go wrong again?.
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Ok thanks everyone ,
chopsie i think you have convinced me
Looks like i have decided to go for the Transit 260,280, or 300 SWB (the nice neat looking one not to big) it will be for a 800l system
2002-2004 less then 70k miles service history no rust on wheel arches ;), must be white offering £3k you guys think thats reasonable?
800litre system - forget the T260 and T280. The payload on the T260 will be used up with full tanks alone. With 800litres you will be better with a T330 or a T350
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I got a T260 and like said above it will be over weight with 800 litres plus rest of gear,Goes well though, saying its only got a 2.0 litre engine in.I have a 400 litre tank in, plus 200 more litres in barrels, twin bench seats and all the rest of my stuff plus ladders on roof. Mine is swb low top. Before I put roof rack on it was ideal size as I could still get in car parks with height barriers.
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Right hang on a sec;
948-1331kg (260 SWB, MWB)
957-1220kg (280 SWB, MWB. LWB)
1252-1420kg (300 SWB, MWB, LWB)
looking at those last figures with 2 men full tank ,poles etc u would think they can all take 800 liters?
the 300 could take 1000l? ,someone i was speaking to on the forum has a 300 forgot who with 1000l 2 men says its no problems?
I wouldnt wana go above the 300,they get too big after that,i heard even the large connect is good for 650 2 men
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for example look
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/combo-van-window-cleaning-/260718797967?pt=UK_Commercial_Trucks&hash=item3cb40d248f
little Combo with 500 liters dont see why a 260 cant hold an extra 300kgs?
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u need my trafic m8 ;)
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u need my trafic m8 ;)
Got any pics Gavs?
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Trippy, if you suffer from any kind of depression then don't touch it. look through the back posts!
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i`d be interested in pics of the traffic for 2k
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I wouldnt pay 2K for pics of a trafic ;)
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i`d be interested in pics of the traffic for 2k
where u based
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Right hang on a sec;
948-1331kg (260 SWB, MWB)
957-1220kg (280 SWB, MWB. LWB)
1252-1420kg (300 SWB, MWB, LWB)
looking at those last figures with 2 men full tank ,poles etc u would think they can all take 800 liters?
the 300 could take 1000l? ,someone i was speaking to on the forum has a 300 forgot who with 1000l 2 men says its no problems?
I wouldnt wana go above the 300,they get too big after that,i heard even the large connect is good for 650 2 men
Hi Crystal-clear
I'm not sure where you are getting your payload figures from, but you can only have 1 figure for 1 van. I suspect that the figures you have got are for a van and then the chassis cab (without body) so those payload figures are going to be higher.
For example, on the latest Transit T260 SWB LR (Ford's brochure from Internet) the GVM of a T260 is 2600 kgs. The basic van with the latest 2.2TDCI has a gross payload of 901 Kgs. That's 901kgs without fuel in tank, driver, passenger, roof bars, plylining, towbar etc. Put 800litres in the back with 2 x 400 litre tanks at 26kgs each tank with tank frame and you are already near its limit. As the van gets bigger, ie MWB and taller, MR the payload is reduced as the weight of the van get heavier to accomodate in increased size.
But I see the SWB chassis cab has a payload of 1323 kgs which is of not use to you.
The older Transit T260 SWB LR with the 2.0l TDCI engine had a payload of 988kgs as the motor was lighter.
T280 SWB LR - payload 1101 kgs. Still can't put a 800 litre tank in the back with all the gear and drive it without being in fear of being overloaded.
T300 SWB LR - payload 1301 kgs. If you put the full 1000 litre tank in and 2 operatives, you maybe just on max payload with a pole and hose reel each. If they are my size, then you'll be over loaded.
Hence my earlier advise that you would safely need either a T330 or even a T350 to accomodate your plan which I stick by.
Spruce