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Title: CL-X™ Carbon Composite Pole
Post by: Handyman Window Cleaning Services on January 03, 2011, 10:54:45 am
how do you rate these poles http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/CL-X.html

i used to use the extels and thinking of getting somthing to last longer
Title: Re: CL-X™ Carbon Composite Pole
Post by: Blue Frog Systems on January 03, 2011, 10:58:58 am
I've got the clx 18 and its a cracking pole

previously i had used fg extel and hydra alloys.... this beats them hands down

very light too... obviously the slx is lighter being 100% cf, but if your used to fibre glass poles you will appreciate the clx alot

Title: Re: CL-X™ Carbon Composite Pole
Post by: Handyman Window Cleaning Services on January 03, 2011, 11:02:20 am
are they basically an hybrid pole then
Title: Re: CL-X™ Carbon Composite Pole
Post by: Blue Frog Systems on January 03, 2011, 11:04:18 am
50% cf + 50 % fg

The have some flex in them which i find handy cleaning the windows above connys
Title: Re: CL-X™ Carbon Composite Pole
Post by: Handyman Window Cleaning Services on January 03, 2011, 11:16:21 am
i have a 35foot extell hydryd thats strong at full height.  i except the clx will be strong to.  i am down sizing from 21(24)foot for an every day pole i dont use all that any way theres another 2 on the van if needed (on last legs tho, im so tight sometime before if i couldnt screw the clamp nor more i used to discard it, now i get the plyers and screw from other end of screw, adds months on to pole)
Title: Re: CL-X™ Carbon Composite Pole
Post by: Nathanael Jones on January 03, 2011, 11:55:20 am
I have the CLX-27,.. seriously impressive pole for the money. The SLX is obviously more rigid, but the CLX is only a fraction heavier and its half the price!
Title: Re: CL-X™ Carbon Composite Pole
Post by: Handyman Window Cleaning Services on January 03, 2011, 12:02:59 pm
paypal account had money saved in there that i didnt realise the amount i had in there, so it feels like it was for free lol
Title: Re: CL-X™ Carbon Composite Pole
Post by: Alex Allen on January 03, 2011, 12:09:45 pm
50% cf + 50 % fg

The have some flex in them which i find handy cleaning the windows above connys


whatch out for clever marketing mate, sellers will twist the facts
it can never be 50% or 100%
ive got a friend who works with carbon fibre
and he says its nearly allways 30% resin to hold the carbon fibre
so your clx can only be 35% carbon fibre maximum
price of the carbon fibre is done on the quality of carbon fibre
more than just the carbon fibre content
Title: Re: CL-X™ Carbon Composite Pole
Post by: Gardiner Admin on January 03, 2011, 12:19:21 pm
50% cf + 50 % fg

The have some flex in them which i find handy cleaning the windows above connys


whatch out for clever marketing mate, sellers will twist the facts
it can never be 50% or 100%
ive got a friend who works with carbon fibre
and he says its nearly allways 30% resin to hold the carbon fibre
so your clx can only be 35% carbon fibre maximum
price of the carbon fibre is done on the quality of carbon fibre
more than just the carbon fibre content


As the title of this post is regarding one of our products we thought it would be OK to comment.

For the record with our 'CL-X™ Carbon Composite Pole' the telescopic sections have 50% fibre glass cloth and 50% carbon fibre cloth. This is stated as some 'hybrid' poles in reality are nearer 25% Carbon 75% Fibre Glass. We would agree that quality of cloth is very important which is why we source our carbon cloth from one of the most respected producers in the world.

We strive to keep the price at the current level by keeping manufacturing efficient and our margins low. We also pride ourselves on our honesty and try to present products exactly as they are.
Title: Re: CL-X™ Carbon Composite Pole
Post by: Richard 01903 on January 03, 2011, 12:35:28 pm
Well Said . Realy good poles 8)
Title: Re: CL-X™ Carbon Composite Pole
Post by: ian1972 on January 03, 2011, 12:48:18 pm
They are are good for th money I recommend u use a superlite brush wit it to help eliminate the flex
Title: Re: CL-X™ Carbon Composite Pole
Post by: Handyman Window Cleaning Services on January 03, 2011, 12:55:32 pm
i use a sill brush as its easier to clean sills
Title: Re: CL-X™ Carbon Composite Pole
Post by: ian1972 on January 03, 2011, 03:27:15 pm
I use a fill brush but not on the clx it's to heavy for it at full length try the superlite extream that's looks like it b good for sills as well
Title: Re: CL-X™ Carbon Composite Pole
Post by: Alex Allen on January 03, 2011, 03:29:27 pm
aerial brush cleans sills in 2 strokes
without the brush stock touching the sills
and its a very light brush
cleans the glass just as quick  8)
Title: Re: CL-X™ Carbon Composite Pole
Post by: Frankybadboy on January 03, 2011, 03:31:12 pm
50% cf + 50 % fg

The have some flex in them which i find handy cleaning the windows above connys


whatch out for clever marketing mate, sellers will twist the facts
it can never be 50% or 100%
ive got a friend who works with carbon fibre
and he says its nearly allways 30% resin to hold the carbon fibre
so your clx can only be 35% carbon fibre maximum
price of the carbon fibre is done on the quality of carbon fibre
more than just the carbon fibre content

ped on your fire. ;D ;D
Title: Re: CL-X™ Carbon Composite Pole
Post by: Alex Allen on January 03, 2011, 03:38:25 pm
50% cf + 50 % fg

The have some flex in them which i find handy cleaning the windows above connys


whatch out for clever marketing mate, sellers will twist the facts
it can never be 50% or 100%
ive got a friend who works with carbon fibre
and he says its nearly allways 30% resin to hold the carbon fibre
so your clx can only be 35% carbon fibre maximum
price of the carbon fibre is done on the quality of carbon fibre
more than just the carbon fibre content

ped on your fire. ;D ;D

i'm not that gullible mate  ;D
the post came from gardiner admin
who probably dosent know their arse from their elbow
their poles like a lot of otheres are made from cardom fibre tape (cheap) not cloth
cloth carbon fibre is where the expense starts  :P

Title: Re: CL-X™ Carbon Composite Pole
Post by: Frankybadboy on January 03, 2011, 03:54:50 pm
50% cf + 50 % fg

The have some flex in them which i find handy cleaning the windows above connys


whatch out for clever marketing mate, sellers will twist the facts
it can never be 50% or 100%
ive got a friend who works with carbon fibre
and he says its nearly allways 30% resin to hold the carbon fibre
so your clx can only be 35% carbon fibre maximum
price of the carbon fibre is done on the quality of carbon fibre
more than just the carbon fibre content

ped on your fire. ;D ;D

i'm not that gullible mate  ;D
the post came from gardiner admin
who probably dosent know their arse from their elbow
their poles like a lot of otheres are made from cardom fibre tape (cheap) not cloth
cloth carbon fibre is where the expense starts  :P


admin gardiners,will be alex gardiner mate,who is a very honest man and know what hes on about,he was on here all the time until some idiot pee him off. ;)
Title: Re: CL-X™ Carbon Composite Pole
Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on January 03, 2011, 04:05:08 pm
Me thinks it's pretty safe to assume another one of Ewan's many user names! ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: CL-X™ Carbon Composite Pole
Post by: lee09 on January 03, 2011, 04:18:39 pm
Me thinks it's pretty safe to assume another one of Ewan's many user names! ::) ::) ::)

Clearly he cant read though.
If Gardiner admin come on and state its carbon cloth, then that's what it is.
Lee
Title: Re: CL-X™ Carbon Composite Pole
Post by: Lee GLS on January 03, 2011, 04:54:47 pm
You have to realise that gardiners are competition to Alex because he works for tecbuk or aerial brush so he is going to try and slate gardiners.
Title: Re: CL-X™ Carbon Composite Pole
Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on January 03, 2011, 05:30:56 pm
Me thinks it's pretty safe to assume another one of Ewan's many user names! ::) ::) ::)

Clearly he cant read though.
If Gardiner admin come on and state its carbon cloth, then that's what it is.
Lee

Won't matter, show him black & he'll argue all day, in the face of proof that it's white! ::) ;D
Title: Re: CL-X™ Carbon Composite Pole
Post by: alanwilson on January 03, 2011, 08:28:56 pm
I thought Alex was from Gardiners? 

Anyway, we have 4 of their slx poles (over 2 and a half years old and still going strong, used for 90% of our work) - I'm really happy with Gardiner poles, they were recommended to me by ANOTHER SUPPLIER who has been so honest with ever since we got our van systems from him that we bought them on his say so.  He has 4 slx poles as well and used to supply Brodex, Xtel etc and says nothing else comes close, and I agree.

Title: Re: CL-X™ Carbon Composite Pole
Post by: Lee GLS on January 03, 2011, 08:37:32 pm
no the other alex that only talks about aerial brushes.
Title: Re: CL-X™ Carbon Composite Pole
Post by: Alex Allen on January 04, 2011, 11:38:01 am
Me thinks it's pretty safe to assume another one of Ewan's many user names! ::) ::) ::)


me thinks you may be a little paranoid
take it easy mate (cabin fever?)
I will try and not mention the aerial brushes  ;D

my post is aimed at a number of poles if you read it right  ;)



Title: Re: CL-X™ Carbon Composite Pole
Post by: davids3511 on January 04, 2011, 11:52:19 am
Me thinks it's pretty safe to assume another one of Ewan's many user names! ::) ::) ::)

Clearly he cant read though.
If Gardiner admin come on and state its carbon cloth, then that's what it is.
Lee
I would believe that too. If Alex says it's cloth then it's cloth.
Title: Re: CL-X™ Carbon Composite Pole
Post by: geefree on January 04, 2011, 11:15:08 pm
Ordered mine , should get it this week  :D
Title: Re: CL-X™ Carbon Composite Pole
Post by: Alex Allen on January 05, 2011, 12:47:23 pm
Me thinks it's pretty safe to assume another one of Ewan's many user names! ::) ::) ::)

Clearly he cant read though.
If Gardiner admin come on and state its carbon cloth, then that's what it is.
Lee
I would believe that too. If Alex says it's cloth then it's cloth.

its not a question of belief mate  ::)
Title: Re: CL-X™ Carbon Composite Pole
Post by: lee09 on January 05, 2011, 02:40:14 pm
50% cf + 50 % fg

The have some flex in them which i find handy cleaning the windows above connys


whatch out for clever marketing mate, sellers will twist the facts
it can never be 50% or 100%
ive got a friend who works with carbon fibre
and he says its nearly allways 30% resin to hold the carbon fibre
so your clx can only be 35% carbon fibre maximum
price of the carbon fibre is done on the quality of carbon fibre
more than just the carbon fibre content

ped on your fire. ;D ;D

i'm not that gullible mate  ;D
the post came from gardiner admin
who probably dosent know their arse from their elbow
their poles like a lot of otheres are made from cardom fibre tape (cheap) not cloth
cloth carbon fibre is where the expense starts  :P



Ok it's not about belief.
Perhaps it's about how thick you are.
Lee
Title: Re: CL-X™ Carbon Composite Pole
Post by: dd on January 05, 2011, 04:13:51 pm
The reason people believe Alex Gardiner is because he has proved himself to be an Honest supplier who provides excellent customer service.

The other Alex is unwise to make disparaging remarks about him and is also I believe less than honest in trying to tell us he does not represent the supplier of ariel brushes as he bangs on about them at every opportunity as well as the company's other products.

He is not doing his company any favours by critising Gardiners.
Title: Re: CL-X™ Carbon Composite Pole
Post by: Dave Willis on January 05, 2011, 04:47:51 pm
I would agree with that. Alex on here only seems to support one company but has a funny way of trying to promote them. I think Arial brushes and equipment could do well on here if only they could get their pricing right. They are just too far off the mark at the moment. Maybe if they could reduce their brush prices and sell in volume they might stand a better chance. I would try one if it was cheaper and from a proven supplier.
Title: Re: CL-X™ Carbon Composite Pole
Post by: geefree on January 05, 2011, 06:22:08 pm
Got it today, nice feel, and  first impression is its sturdy and light , good grip, and i like the new clamps.
Title: Re: CL-X™ Carbon Composite Pole
Post by: Crystal-clear on January 05, 2011, 07:47:35 pm
i like mine getting use to it its really light too, only thing is the base cap needs to be glued on ill have to call them tomorrow so they send me some glue.
Title: Re: CL-X™ Carbon Composite Pole
Post by: Handyman Window Cleaning Services on January 05, 2011, 09:52:42 pm
The reason people believe Alex Gardiner is because he has proved himself to be an Honest supplier who provides excellent customer service.

The other Alex is unwise to make disparaging remarks about him and is also I believe less than honest in trying to tell us he does not represent the supplier of ariel brushes as he bangs on about them at every opportunity as well as the company's other products.

He is not doing his company any favours by critising Gardiners.

he critising gardeners so much that in turn hes critising gardeners costomers judgment. again he pushing his own protential customers away.  if i have a new customer and they had a bad cleaner before i dont slag that cleaner off i show how im better, if i slagged th other cleaner my new customer could feel like a prat through me offending his judgment