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Title: hello all, advice needed
Post by: wfp08 on December 22, 2010, 09:34:00 am
hi there, im new here, i been cleaning windows with a ladder for 1 year now. i just got a wfp08 from e bay, it got here last week, and now iv already lost about 10 off my round. the people are saying it will leave streaks and marks.

does any body have a wfp08 or are you all on ladders too like me.

iv got at least 50 people on my round i dont want to lose any more

Thanks

Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: darren clarke on December 22, 2010, 09:35:01 am
whast a wfp08,  do u have a link
Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: wfp08 on December 22, 2010, 09:36:44 am
no i dont not to the one i got, but on e bay it shows a pic..
its a white tank with all the things to go with it on top of the tank, cost me £700.00
Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: lyndy on December 22, 2010, 09:43:40 am
What's your tds reading? Are they getting rid of you before you even clean?
Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: T1M_ on December 22, 2010, 09:51:01 am
print a letter explaining the change, how it works and what to expect. your customers will be grateful.
Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: Jackal on December 22, 2010, 10:00:03 am
 a bit like this   http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/250l-DIY-WATER-FED-POLE-SYSTEM-DI-ONLY-/220526249575?pt=UK_HomeGarden_CLV_Cleaning_CA&hash=item3358638667
Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: Poles R Us on December 22, 2010, 10:37:14 am
make sure you rinse well , the first few cleans are going to be a bit hard but after that its ok
Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: darren clarke on December 22, 2010, 10:52:27 am
just say to the custy, that if thet arnt happy then you will come back and do them free of charge


then scrub the windows and rinse loads  and make sure theya re spotless
Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: Tom White on December 22, 2010, 11:10:09 am
First cleans, especially when you're unsure of what you're doing can cause a little bit of trouble sometimes since the pure water seems to react with old soap residue; and there are other factors such as oxidised frames (where when you lick your finger and wipe the frame, your finger is white; you'll sometimes see 'milk' running down the glass).

What I sometimes do - on a first clean only - is to quickly, but thoroughly wash the frames and glass on all the windows.

Then I return to the first window and do the glass only.

Alternatively, why not post up which area you live, and ask if some kind soul would let you meet up with them at a job and learn from someone with a little more experience?

And don't lose motivation; WFP does work; just like anything there's more to it than meets the eye.
Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: wfp08 on December 22, 2010, 11:40:48 am
hi yes jackal, thats the one i got, i must addmit, its not very good, seems to be a lot of leaking connections, the reading on the meter is 025 it was 94 and 92, now its 25 in a glass full of water from the brush.

its to cold now to clean so im going to leave it untill the new year.

thanks everyone
Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: steven ainger on December 22, 2010, 11:43:40 am
it should be reading 000, if its a di only system, what is you tap tds ??
Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: darren clarke on December 22, 2010, 11:44:28 am
change your resin,  u need to ptfe all the joints 
Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: GB Window Cleaning on December 22, 2010, 11:45:42 am
25 ppm is TOO hight mate! is the resin vessel 1/3 full and how old is the resin in the vessel?
there are many many wfp operators on this forum you will get all the advice you need  ;)

The best advice for the time being is leave your wfp at home until your 100% sure what your doing (from advice on this forum) stick too trad for now!

Best regards g.b
Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: SB Cleaning on December 22, 2010, 11:47:11 am
Have you got an RO with your system??

Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: wfp08 on December 22, 2010, 12:03:53 pm
its a ro system, the blue bottle smeels like fish, i cant connect the 3 tubes as it leaks every where, so iv left that off and just hooked the blue bottle up.

im sending it all back now, bn talking to my mate and he said its a pile of junk and to stay with a ladder
Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: dazmond on December 22, 2010, 12:10:52 pm
its a ro system, the blue bottle smeels like fish, i cant connect the 3 tubes as it leaks every where, so iv left that off and just hooked the blue bottle up.

im sending it all back now, bn talking to my mate and he said its a pile of junk and to stay with a ladder

your mates talking absolute rubbish!!you just dont know what your doing yet!!what part of the country are you in?im sure someone on here can help you out and show you where your going wrong!!!

dont send it all back!!your giving up too quickly mate!!


dazmond
Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: Tom White on December 22, 2010, 12:11:45 pm
What Daz said!
Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: SB Cleaning on December 22, 2010, 12:16:43 pm
its a ro system, the blue bottle smeels like fish, i cant connect the 3 tubes as it leaks every where, so iv left that off and just hooked the blue bottle up.

im sending it all back now, bn talking to my mate and he said its a pile of junk and to stay with a ladder

your mates talking absolute rubbish!!you just dont know what your doing yet!!what part of the country are you in?im sure someone on here can help you out and show you where your going wrong!!!

dont send it all back!!your giving up too quickly mate!!


dazmond
And if you do send it all back your gonna look funny on here with the username "WFP08" on ladders ;D
Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: formb on December 22, 2010, 12:19:44 pm
Don't send it back.

By July you will be thinking,

"did I really climb ladders all day?"

Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: wfp08 on December 22, 2010, 12:43:58 pm
i live in carmarthen, west wales.... the water from the tap is 92 and 94..

i know its early days, but im going to sell it... they wont take it bk now as iv used it, just come off the phone...

il sell it to my mate, he offered me 150 pound for it as its leaking, so might as well, its cost me some people all ready
Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: steven ainger on December 22, 2010, 12:50:52 pm
i live in carmarthen, west wales.... the water from the tap is 92 and 94..

i know its early days, but im going to sell it... they wont take it bk now as iv used it, just come off the phone...

il sell it to my mate, he offered me 150 pound for it as its leaking, so might as well, its cost me some people all ready


is it the same mate who said it was a pile of junk
Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: careless.david@gmail.com on December 22, 2010, 12:54:30 pm
Dont just bale out & lose all that money - post pics on here & take advice - its probably a simple low cost fix & once you get it right, you will be glad you made the change.
Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: wfp08 on December 22, 2010, 12:54:37 pm
yes it is the same guy, he lives about 10 miles from me, he said i wouldn have to pay for him to collect it, as he said he'l have it asap and will come toomr.

i was going to keep the pole and brush for my self, but he reckons its no good for gutter cleaning and to let him have it, so thats the deal for him to travel to collectit and pack it all away..

any body else got a window cleaning machine
Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: Jackal on December 22, 2010, 12:58:48 pm
mate, dont sell this kit to your mate you paid £700 for it so £150 is a p*ss take,the kit you brought will work,you just need educating how to use it as for the pipes leaking that will easily be solved

my advice is to carry on with the ladders for now,and get practicing wfp with you familys/friends and your own houses untill you learn to use the kit,and your tds was to high so thats proberly the reason your customers cancelled

but like i said dont bother selling the kit give it a chance
Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: Jackal on December 22, 2010, 01:02:07 pm
doesnt it seem weird to you that your 'mate' said its a pile of junk but now wants to buy it from you asap i will give you more than £150 for it, i not suprised he will collect for free  ::)
Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: wfp08 on December 22, 2010, 01:08:22 pm
yes, he said he'l keep it for spares, if he ever gets a machine...he does ladders aswell in the street he lives in.

Thanks all
Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: darren clarke on December 22, 2010, 01:13:49 pm
if you sell it to him, he will wfp next week,

Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: Jackal on December 22, 2010, 01:25:45 pm
i dont believe for a minute that he wants it for spares he knows its new and easy to fix and is making out to you it no good,

and why wouldnt the pole be any good for cleaning gutters,he is telling porkies

like blue monkey just said sell it to him and after xmas he will be wfp,laughing cuz your still on ladders

im trying my hardest here so you dont get ripped off mate
Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: clearlyclean on December 22, 2010, 01:27:45 pm
The first month is the hardest when converting to WFP, If you R/O is leaking wrap PTFE inside the thread and push all the hoses right in you will also need to flush the system for about 10 minutes,then make about 100 ltrs of pure water and test the TDS,I would practise on your own house family and friends and continue to trad for the next few months till you feel confident using the WFP and then slowly convert your round,maybe starting with 10 houses just top windows WFP and bottoms Trad then slowly increase this number each month till happy with the amount till your 100% WFP.
Follow the advise of experienced WFP guys/lasses and you will get the hang of it,We have all been there and experienced the same problems you will encounter.Main thing is not to give up and selling 750 pounds of gear for 150 pound is a bargain and I think your mate is having you over,I'm sure there are guys in Wales that can show you the ropes or come to Manchester and I show you my system and way I clean
Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: leights on December 22, 2010, 01:39:54 pm
where abouts do you live pal...im in the south, i take it you drive??. if you want to sell it, il give you 175 cash for it, and you can keep the pole..

deal??

if you want i can fix it up for you, but ul have to wait till after xmas.. you sure its a ro system...

up to you let me know pal
Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: Jackal on December 22, 2010, 01:56:04 pm
£200 cash

cheque,bankers draft,paypal,bank transfer,credit card,  which ever you prefer!

any other offers?  ;D
Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: leights on December 22, 2010, 02:01:48 pm
ok this is war, il give you 275 quid tonight for it....in person and you keep the damn brush lol

its easyer for you to seel it to me as i live in the surrounding area or close enough to travel in the van
Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: chopsie on December 22, 2010, 02:16:01 pm
My mate says its a pile of junk and to get rid, He offered me £150 for a new £700 system as he is doing me a favour by coming to collect it,for spare parts to a system he may or may not get in the future  ;D ;D ;D and I thought Jeremy Kyle was funny, This is a wind up right  ;D
Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: Jackal on December 22, 2010, 02:24:57 pm
i dont believe its a wind up, some people are just that gullable
Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: EZclean on December 22, 2010, 02:43:54 pm
cant believe you all fell for that  ::)

thats a right wind up
Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: wfp08 on December 22, 2010, 02:50:42 pm
its not a wind up, its leaking all the time, dnt know what iv started here, il just keep it maybe, sounds like it can be fixed, tahnks to the 2 who wanted it though..

isit me or is this place full of people slating others for something they have typed..
im on a fishing forum and it seems a lot less hassle i will be honest.
sorry if that upsets some people.
thanks
Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: cozy on December 31, 2010, 11:06:30 am
its not a wind up, its leaking all the time, dnt know what iv started here, il just keep it maybe, sounds like it can be fixed, tahnks to the 2 who wanted it though..

isit me or is this place full of people slating others for something they have typed..
im on a fishing forum and it seems a lot less hassle i will be honest.
sorry if that upsets some people.
thanks

Leights, if you want to wind people up, do yourself a favour and use Google Chrome with spell checker. It's no good opening a new ID then making exactly the same silly spelling mistakes and giving the game away. We've seen it all before on here my old mate. What the hell is "Crimeolgy anyway"? Where did you get a degree in it?
Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: formb on December 31, 2010, 11:15:24 am
its not a wind up, its leaking all the time, dnt know what iv started here, il just keep it maybe, sounds like it can be fixed, tahnks to the 2 who wanted it though..

isit me or is this place full of people slating others for something they have typed..
im on a fishing forum and it seems a lot less hassle i will be honest.
sorry if that upsets some people.
thanks

Leights, if you want to wind people up, do yourself a favour and use Google Chrome with spell checker. It's no good opening a new ID then making exactly the same silly spelling mistakes and giving the game away. We've seen it all before on here my old mate. What the hell is "Crimeolgy anyway"? Where did you get a degree in it?

Crimeology:

The study of crime itself and more particulary how to commit one and get away with it.
The science was founded by a group of antiestablishment acdemics. They believe that law controls too much of our lives and that most crime is such victimless crime as prostitution,underaged sex,underager drinking,public sex ect. and that most criminals are really victims of society.
The main principles of crimeology are that one needs to plan a crime backwards so one won't get too emotionaly involved in it and back out.
Know everything there is to know about police science and technology and behavor. In other words to know your enemy better that they know them selves and also to study all one needs to know about forensic science.
Study the sciences of antipolice science and antipolice technology and antiforensic science for what one needs to know. All three are branches of crimeology.
Go through an "ology" list to know all about the future crime scene.For example the sociology and chemistry of drugs ect.


Basically the study of crime by criminals in order to get away with it.
Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: cozy on December 31, 2010, 11:18:18 am
No mate, "Crimeolgy" is what he has a degree in. Must be something else.
Title: Re: hello all, advice needed
Post by: formb on December 31, 2010, 11:19:43 am
No mate, "Crimeolgy" is what he has a degree in. Must be something else.

Crimeolgy, Crimeology, whatever, neither exist in the academic world. 

Criminology though...........