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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: john stracey on December 18, 2010, 05:38:34 pm

Title: trolley systems
Post by: john stracey on December 18, 2010, 05:38:34 pm
Am thinking of investing in a streamline trolley anyone using this, ? pro`s and con's ?.
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Post by: windiewasher on December 18, 2010, 06:28:17 pm
get a backpack m8!
Am thinking of investing in a streamline trolley anyone using this, ? pro`s and con's ?.
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Post by: steven ainger on December 18, 2010, 06:29:56 pm
get a van mount and a backpack
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Post by: windiewasher on December 18, 2010, 06:32:27 pm
agrees!
get a van mount and a backpack
Title: Re: trolley systems
Post by: john stracey on December 19, 2010, 09:23:32 am
thanks for replies, anyone got a positive ?
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Post by: windiewasher on December 19, 2010, 10:29:16 am
noooo
dont waste your money
www.johnhewitt.com
lots of good backpacks on there
thanks for replies, anyone got a positive ?
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Post by: Slash on December 19, 2010, 11:22:51 am
Get yourself a decent backpack,I got one of these ones with the red lid and I would p1ss faster,total crap but then again you get what you pay for ;D
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Post by: Craig Trevain on December 19, 2010, 12:39:19 pm
thanks for replies, anyone got a positive ?




Trolley's are great...............especially one of the 3 bespoke types ...!
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Post by: landy2 on December 19, 2010, 01:13:26 pm
what are the best trolleys out there that dont break the bank but are good products
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Post by: gto on December 19, 2010, 04:22:51 pm
i have the red hat diving trolley.
i changed to a van mount when i got fed up of filling the trolley, and some of my house have steps down to back gardens.
but its a good trolley, and it saved me the other day as my van mount battery went dead.
if you can put up with the refilling and tripping on the hose, they are a good start.
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Post by: john stracey on December 19, 2010, 04:39:59 pm
are backpacks hard on your back not getting any younger!!!.
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Post by: Small but perfectley formed on December 19, 2010, 07:34:47 pm
Brodex trolley,excellant for compact work and terraced houses
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Post by: lee_dewing on December 19, 2010, 07:50:04 pm
Get the window cleaning warehouse back pack or maybe the john hewitt one that is identical to wcw backpack.

Take off straps and just carry by handle, no way wear on back :o

Get a back with variable speed controller wish i had :'(

New wcw back pack and john hewitts have water speed controller an absolute must.

Goodluck mate
Ps. i have freedom trolley which i think now cost £700, back packs mentioned cost £150 inl vat.

I love my freedom trolley but i honestly think that back pack is better most of the time, but it is very important to have a back up.

If you like the back pack you buy; i would seriousley consider buying another as soon as you can.
I can't stress the importance of spares.
Title: Re: trolley systems
Post by: mark m on December 19, 2010, 07:53:28 pm
Trolleys are excellent ;D  you dont have to lift them out all the time you have a hose for that  just like a van mount but the added value of getting to the places easier without loads of hose .Also when you have finished you have a empty van that you can use for other jobs .i also have a back pack dont use to much as it is very heavy    
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Post by: Frankybadboy on December 19, 2010, 07:55:35 pm
just got fed up with carrying my shurflo b/pack which is excellent,and now got a nice new x-line trolley,which for me are better than the fix container ones. ;)
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Post by: lovewindows on December 19, 2010, 08:54:10 pm
Had a van mount , now use a pure freedom trolley, i find the trolley to be quicker and i use less water. Sure there are aspects of a trolley that are a pain ,lifting for one,  but  i'd rather that than all that winding / unwinding / releasing catches with the hose. Other good things are storing everything in a heated shed, i couldn't run an electric heater into my van . Also i sold my van and just use my car now.
Dont know about backpacks, i'd be worried about how much water i could carry on my back.
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Post by: john stracey on December 19, 2010, 09:38:00 pm
thanks for all the comments guys
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Post by: GB Window Cleaning on December 19, 2010, 09:50:50 pm
i have a 35 L trolley, does me well! no plans for a van mount yet. although i do need to attatch a longer hose to it so i dont have to keep moving it from house to house!

But, by the way im still trad on ground floor, so it might not be enough water if you plan on going 100% w.f.p!?!
Although dazmond seems to do alright with trolley and im sure he's 100% w.f.p.
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Post by: dazmond on December 19, 2010, 10:12:05 pm
50L PURE FREEDOM TROLLEY!i love it as ive a lot of very compact domestic work.i use 30m of 5mm extension hose and use it on 80% of my work in normal working conditions.i use between 250-300L OF PURE WATER A DAY(10-12 barrels)and change barrels roughly every hour of work.

i also bring all gear in overnight so no freezing issues inclu water so no problems there.i also use it as a mini van mount for the odd stand alone job.

i dont have much lifting trolley in and out of the van because of the sheer amount of work that requires hardly any travelling!!it suits me fine and i also have no plans to go van mount anytime soon.

i personally think if your going to get a trolley as your main system you should get the 50L version as less time swapping barrels.im glad i did anyway!!


regards


dazmond
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Post by: clearlyclean on December 19, 2010, 10:17:03 pm
 although i do need to attatch a longer hose to it so i dont have to keep moving it from house to house!

A long hose is ideal as you can clean work without moving it away from the vehicle and move the trolley when needed,great for where parking is an issue,I have a 50metre hose and it saves me so much time not having to drag the trolley around,yes I do have to change bottles but there are cons and pro to using a trolley and it suits me and the type of work I do
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Post by: Mike #1 on December 20, 2010, 08:14:36 am
purefreedom trolley 25ltr works great for  me depends on your round cant get 4x4  right outside every house i do , 25 lts is a lot lighter than 50ltrs , when pulling thourgh snow sorry dazmond i have 10mtrs of pole hose and a 10mtr retractable air hose reel attached to trolley i dont find it a problem switching containers you just need to try and park in the best spot possible and work back towards car or van rather than away from it so when you need to switch you are closer to van its all learning curve AND ITS THE BEST BUILT TROLLEY ON THE MARKET IMO had mine nearly 3 yrs now still going strong should last until i retire at 60 now 35yrs old
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Post by: Mike #1 on December 20, 2010, 08:17:28 am
one more point some  lads cant get out with with a big van mount due to weight in van in snowy conditions no such probs with trolley
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Post by: john stracey on December 20, 2010, 06:38:51 pm
any idea about running costs, how much do you spend on resin each week?.
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Post by: dazmond on December 20, 2010, 07:04:05 pm
depends what you tds is coming out of your tap.mines usually between 35-70 although its 24 at the moment and i use approx 1 25kg  bag every 6 months(so £140-£150 a year)using 1000-1200L of pure a week.
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Post by: john stracey on December 20, 2010, 07:12:50 pm
sorry to come across a bit dumb what does TDS stand for
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Post by: dazmond on December 20, 2010, 07:26:29 pm
TDS = TOTAL DISSOLVED SOLIDS


you need to buy a tds meter first then check you tap water to see whether you can get away with a DI ONLY SYSTEM(LIKE ME!) or a reverse osmosis system.

soft to medium    20-100    DI ONLY

anything over 100 is considered hard water

anything over 300 is considered mega hard!! ;D ;D
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Post by: clearlyclean on December 20, 2010, 07:30:40 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRwLhoRB6JU
heres a little video that explains it and shows you what you need
Title: Re: trolley systems
Post by: john stracey on December 20, 2010, 07:42:43 pm
cheers for the help! :D
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Post by: Richard Neal on December 20, 2010, 10:38:48 pm
I started with a pf 25 L trolley and now use it connected to a 500 l tank in the bank of my van, if you get a trolley get one where the hose fits into the top of the container ( not fitted to bottom as some are) you can then use it as a trolley with container or a van mount and definateley buy a 30 -100 meter hose
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Post by: CLEANCARE WC on December 21, 2010, 12:17:19 am
my water is about 400 and i have a mate 2 miles up the road that reckons his is 600  :o :o :o
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Post by: barry mallett on December 21, 2010, 06:44:28 am
one more point some  lads cant get out with with a big van mount due to weight in van in snowy conditions no such probs with trolley
just put as much water in as you need for the day , not a problem . i assume water weighs the same wether using it in a van mount or using it in a trolley or am i missing something  ;D
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Post by: Mike #1 on December 21, 2010, 07:44:28 am
defo not mate, but with a trolley everything is more portable as i said before i now have a 4x4 so when snow is on the ground i have no problems getting about at all,  and i dont have to have mtrs of hose laid in snow which is more likely to freeze up