Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: CJcamCJ on December 17, 2010, 02:12:45 pm
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Hey ;D
Im hoping to start up next year but wondering what van i should buy. (im thinking Citroen Berlingo?)
What system i should use for starting up. Somone mentioned a trolly system witch sounds good to me, or am i wrong? ;D
and also what size tank i should buy and where to buy a tank that fits the van propperly?.
And i also dont know about pure water? do i just fill the tank with tap water then the trolly system changes it to pure, or am i totaly wrong? :-\
Thank you
(also a big thanks to the people that answered on my other topic, v big help, thanks =D)
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IF YOU WANT TO START UP I HAVE A 250 LTR STAND UP TANK FROM GARDINERS ITS BRAND NEW
COST 130 DELIVERED I WANT 50 POUND BUYER COLECTS IM IN BLACKPOOL
THANKS GORDON MOB 07725 991716
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hi
you will have lots of questions and the best thing you can do at the moment is read all the old posts this will take you many hours but about every question you will have will have been answered at some point on here, there is allot of dribble but also very good advice.
but to give a short answer
Van your thinking off, seems ok
system you want, trolly is ok and has its place but i would recommend a van mount system
As for your pure water no you cant just fill your tank up with tap water and the trolly will change it. You need to know what your tap water TDS is this will decide what system you will need DI or a RO system if its very low i believe around under 60ppm then a DI vessle should be fine if its higher then that you will need an RO system else it would start getting expensive to make your water.
As for tank size for a sole trader with your size of van your looking at i would say 350-400lt one basically you want the biggest tank your van can handle.
But before you even think of any of that have you got customers to use it on if not that should be your main priority, maybe even use traditional methods for a while as you need this skill even with a wfp system.
paul
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see m b window cleaning he was selling a escort with 350 system in, i think u need a pole and vessel and reel, for about a grand, then just knock like crazy every night
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or buy my doblo for £2000 with 250 set up.just need ro and a hose reel and your ready to roll,doblo's are great vans.
£2k o.n.o
see m b window cleaning he was selling a escort with 350 system in, i think u need a pole and vessel and reel, for about a grand, then just knock like crazy every night
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or buy my doblo for £200 with 250 set up.just need ro and a hose reel and your ready to roll,doblo's are great vans.
£2k o.n.o
see m b window cleaning he was selling a escort with 350 system in, i think u need a pole and vessel and reel, for about a grand, then just knock like crazy every night
where u based
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lincs £2k o.n.o
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CJcamCJ E.mail me, I might be able to help
drake_john@rocketmail.com
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Id recomend a brodex hydra alumininium 18ft pole to start off there £95 + VAT, there not the lightest pole but the're very robust I use one for my every day pole cant fault it, also has a 3yr guaruntee.
Id start of with a trolley you can easily adapt it to run a van mount then detach it from your van and put a barrel on and use as a trolley if needed, I use the 25ltr pure freedom trolley.
Also be careful of the pay load on what ever van you get weight soon mounts up.
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My van includes 26ft and 7ft brodex hydra alloy poles
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hey doctorwindows i cant find your email anywhere, my email is c.j12345@hotmail.co.uk send me an email so i can reply, thx ;D
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brodex have a offen on now for a complete system its 250lt complete with pump ect, it will change your tap water to pure on the exit to your hose reels, i have brodex, they r by far the best, dnt listen to any del boys on here, you can call me if u want i will give u sound advice...
its priced at 750 quid, ul be sorted they r very reliable and wont break down, dnt by theses plastic white crap, they look and priduce pure poop not water....
escort van 5 to 1000 quid will get u half desent one and away u go ;)
inbox me for chat with ur number if u want
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Is there a link for this Brodex deal?
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i can give the link, but its quicker to go to brodex then special offers its there ;D
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thx leights,
http://shop.brodexbms.co.uk/collections/special-offers
i cant see it ??? but great website, thx
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my mistake, 895.00, but still best ul buy...
go to pur water cleaning machines
they were 1150, when i baught the 250 lt
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ah, i see it, thx
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You can buy my old Hi-ace with a tank fitted, would need the RO & Other bits as it's been used as a donkey system.
Rob
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time you pay 20% vat and postage will be more than £1150,plus if you order now if your lucky you could get it by january 2012
my mistake, 895.00, but still best ul buy...
go to pur water cleaning machines
they were 1150, when i baught the 250 lt
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brodex have a offen on now for a complete system its 250lt complete with pump ect, it will change your tap water to pure on the exit to your hose reels, i have brodex, they r by far the best, dnt listen to any del boys on here, you can call me if u want i will give u sound advice...
its priced at 750 quid, ul be sorted they r very reliable and wont break down, dnt by theses plastic white crap, they look and priduce pure poop not water....
escort van 5 to 1000 quid will get u half desent one and away u go ;)
inbox me for chat with ur number if u want
I've heard some horror stories about Brodex, read some back posts. As for very reliable, I had a mate who had a 250 from them. In one year he was back over to them two or three times to get bits replaced.
dnt by theses plastic white crap, they look and priduce pure poop not water....
Not sure what that means. If you mean DIY ie sourcing the parts yourself, I prefer that any day. I did that and have spare parts. If anything goes wrong I know enough about the system to replace whatever is broken and not have to trip over to Liverpool or where ever they are based and lose a mornings work.
Oh, and personally I think 250lt is too small for anything other than a mornings work.
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The Brodex kit for £895 is for a DI - soft water system - Staffordshire is a hard water area & so you would need an RO system or mountains of costly resin.
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plus they will fit it for £400
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yeah, i just found that out :( i think davids3511 gave me an idea of building my own system. I dont konw anything about how the system works yet or what parts i need but i have a couple of months to learn ;D
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yeah, i just found that out :( i think davids3511 gave me an idea of building my own system. I dont konw anything about how the system works yet or what parts i need but i have a couple of months to learn ;D
You need the DIYWFP site, a WHOLE site dedicated to building your own
Just Google : DIYWFP
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yeah, i just found that out :( i think davids3511 gave me an idea of building my own system. I dont konw anything about how the system works yet or what parts i need but i have a couple of months to learn ;D
It's easy mate. Get yourself a tds meter and test your water. Anything over 50/60 you will need an ro to filter your water. That means you will need to connect it to your mains and have a holding tank if possible.
Under 50/60 and you can DI only which means you can fill your van tank with tap water and filter on demand as it were. I know there are variations but that is the general gist.
After that you need a tank (as big as your payload will allow), flow contoller (varistream and loads more), pump, 100m micro/mini bore hose, di vessel, hose reel, brush and pole. Get that and you have the basics.
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damn thanks john thats a giant help, ive not checked it out yet but im sure it will be gr8.
Hey davids, i would love to be able to email you, just for the small questions and such, the people on this fourm are amazing, i cant thank them enough :)
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email me cccwindowcleaners@yahoo.co.uk
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X line systems.co.uk
James was very helpfull , even took me out ans showed me how to use the pole ..
He could have sold me a something i did not need , but with what i bought i `m doing well with ... thumbs up
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Hi, i had an idea of storing water at my house, i live on a farm so i have loads of space to store a tank and an RO system to make pure water. So this is what im thinking, ill buy a 400lt tank for my van and fill the tank up from my static tank to the tank in my van? dose anyone see a problem with that? will that work? it means i could store loads and loads of pure water and just fill the van up when needed, thanks =D
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most people, who use a ro, do it that way
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Ah, gr8 =D
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Hi, i had an idea of storing water at my house, i live on a farm so i have loads of space to store a tank and an RO system to make pure water. So this is what im thinking, ill buy a 400lt tank for my van and fill the tank up from my static tank to the tank in my van? dose anyone see a problem with that? will that work? it means i could store loads and loads of pure water and just fill the van up when needed, thanks =D
That's how I do it CJ. I have a static tank at home to store water that has gone through the RO and DI so ready to go. Just put a transfer pump in your static tank at home to pump the water through a hose into your van tank. Simples.
Some people who use a static tank store water that has gone through the RO only. They then fit a DI vessel on the van and polish the water on demand before it goes up the pole.
I prefer to have it all ready to go and keep all my purification kit at home but it's just personal preference.
Read as much as you can on this forum it will help you to get setup for sure.
Cheers, Mike
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Any advice on the static tank, where to buy from please.
So the tank that would be in the van only needs a pump then is that right ? What is a DI ?
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im going to look at (remember look at not 100% sure ill sure it yet ;D) an old corn storage thing, its got a stand and i think ill cut it down to size, and clean it out ofc but it most porbs has leaks in it, ill look at it tomorrow :) thx guys
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Keep your eye out in the buy and sell equipment section on this forum for people getting rid off their static tanks.
The tank on the van will need to be connected to a pump and a flow controller. After the flow controller comes the hose reel which then connects to your pole.
On a basic level DI is a polishing resin which is used to remove dissolved solids from the water. It is used as the final polisher after water has gone through the RO to bring your TDS reading down to 0.
If you live in an area that is below 50ish TDS out of the tap you could probably get away with just using a DI Vessel. Very straight forward to setup as you litterally connect your DI vessel up to a tap. The water that comes out of the DI is then ready to go.
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So if my tap water was very high, would a good RO system be able to get it down to 0 alone?
Also if i was to store my water in a sealed tank for afew days would the TPS rise?
thank you
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No you will need a DI vessel also as the RO will not get the water down to 0 alone.
If your water has a high TDS reading you will need to pass it through an RO then DI vessel to get it down to 0.
Once the water is stored the TDS should not rise in a few days. Not in my experience anyway.
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would a RO system alone get it to a level that is good to clean with? then in the future upgrade?
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A DI Vessel is relatively cheap to add on in comparison with the prices of the rest of the equipment.
Maybe some use just an RO if they get their water down to around a 10ish TDS reading but I would put that through a DI still.
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would a RO system alone get it to a level that is good to clean with? then in the future upgrade?
possibly but your then taking chances best to make it 0ppm a di vessel and some resin is not that expensive you could even find one second hand, if your going to store water on your farm make sure you keep whatever tank you use out of the sunlight you can pick up cheap 1000lt ibc tanks at a number of places.
paul
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thanks guys =D ;D cant wait to get started ;D
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wow,
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1000LT-IBC-TANK-CLEAN-%28OTHER-SIZE-CONTAINERS-AVAILABLE%29_W0QQitemZ280600049399QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=186848585939&rvr_id=186848585939&cguid=d68b783a12c0a0aad3c0ca70ffb518c4
very cheap =D
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run my water through my merlin into static
water comes out at 003
into van through twin di vessels
out at 000 easy m8 ;D ;D ;D
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Thx man, what RO and DI system would you suggest? not to expensive ;D
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you could have a look around the net,I have 75 gpd R/O with a DI and it will produce about 250 ltrs in 24 hours for about 100 pounds would be a start and you might not need more that when starting out and upgrade when you need to.
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thanks mate, i just had a look on RO-man i think ill get that one (£85 + VAT) ;D
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CJ when I setup a few people recommended to me to take a look at johnhewitt.com. There are RO systems on there at good prices.