Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Perfect Windows on December 16, 2010, 09:12:49 pm
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I've had enough now. Anyone who emails me for information off forum and doesn't bother to respond with even a "thank you" gets named and shamed on here.
I'm not angry, just disappointed, as it makes me less likely to put in any time for the next person.
Vin
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I've had enough now. Anyone who emails me for information off forum and doesn't bother to respond with even a "thank you" gets named and shamed on here.
I'm not angry, just disappointed, as it makes me less likely to put in any time for the next person.
Vin
ok thanks for the heads up :P
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;D ;D ;D
You wanna try passing on work to others.
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I've had enough now. Anyone who emails me for information off forum and doesn't bother to respond with even a "thank you" gets named and shamed on here.
I'm not angry, just disappointed, as it makes me less likely to put in any time for the next person.
Vin
Are you ok with pms?
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Well i'm a bit guilty.You sent me an email- which i very much appreciated- and didn't respond......
I was in Turkey the next day, and despite staying at a hotel -the titanic- named as one of the best hotel's in the world it had no wi fi.My brainstorming at the hotel didn't come to anything, but i did get a breakthrough a couple of weeks after i came back.
You came across to me as a very bright and switched on .Your background in marketing etc makes you an especially good person to know.The only bit i didn't like was your readyness to share info.If possible i like to stay about three years in front of this forum (how they laughed when i told Alex the future was hot and how an demand system would be the norm), but to maintain this there has to be an element of keeping ones gob shut.
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I was in Turkey the next day, and despite staying at a hotel -the titanic- named as one of the best hotel's in the world it had no wi fi.
That`s just the tip of the iceberg.
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Well i'm a bit guilty.You sent me an email- which i very much appreciated- and didn't respond......
I was in Turkey the next day, and despite staying at a hotel -the titanic- named as one of the best hotel's in the world it had no wi fi.My brainstorming at the hotel didn't come to anything, but i did get a breakthrough a couple of weeks after i came back.
You came across to me as a very bright and switched on .Your background in marketing etc makes you an especially good person to know.The only bit i didn't like was your readyness to share info.If possible i like to stay about three years in front of this forum (how they laughed when i told Alex the future was hot and how an demand system would be the norm), but to maintain this there has to be an element of keeping ones gob shut.
It wasn't aimed at you - I saw your post when you came back.
Any sharing was going to be on a purely quid pro quo basis. I give nowt away for nowt. I certainly don't put my best stuff on here.
Vin
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For Ewans benefit;
The original joke was by Bob Monkhouse
"How they laughted when i said i was going to be a comedian.-(slight pause)- They're not laughing now!"
And Ewan this was over three years ago, and while you've been playing catchup ever since i've moved on.Watch and learn kid. ;D
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Well i'm a bit guilty.You sent me an email- which i very much appreciated- and didn't respond......
I was in Turkey the next day, and despite staying at a hotel -the titanic- named as one of the best hotel's in the world it had no wi fi.My brainstorming at the hotel didn't come to anything, but i did get a breakthrough a couple of weeks after i came back.
You came across to me as a very bright and switched on .Your background in marketing etc makes you an especially good person to know.The only bit i didn't like was your readyness to share info.If possible i like to stay about three years in front of this forum (how they laughed when i told Alex the future was hot and how an demand system would be the norm), but to maintain this there has to be an element of keeping ones gob shut.
Absolutley unbeliavable. Couldn't make this stuff up. Why don't you email him direct and tell him to keep his mouth shut. Three years ahead, you some sort of joker?
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Lots of professional window cleaners are still laughing slumpbuster, they know when and when not to use heated water. ::)
Doubtless he'll delete this and make your response meaningless, Slumpy.
Vin
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I'm not joking about this Mike.I've always been on the cutting edge, but the rest of you do catch up.Take collecting, the majority used to collect, the majority now does not do that. I didn't invent not collecting, but as soon as i got a sniff of this i was all over it like a rash.I do lots of things that you don't do now, but in the future you will and wonder at the fact that you couldn't see it for yourself.
A few weeks ago i put a couple of simple logic problems up on here, vin was the only one to solve the problem.This is probably not just to do with brightness, but being bothered. I can be bothered and will devote hours of thought to what may appear simple problems.Hence my remaining three years in front despite a keen chasing pack.
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I'm not joking about this Mike.I've always been on the cutting edge, but the rest of you do catch up.Take collecting, the majority used to collect, the majority now does not do that. I didn't invent not collecting, but as soon as i got a sniff of this i was all over it like a rash.I do lots of things that you don't do now, but in the future you will and wonder at the fact that you couldn't see it for yourself.
A few weeks ago i put a couple of simple logic problems up on here, vin was the only one to solve the problem.This is probably not just to do with brightness, but being bothered. I can be bothered and will devote hours of thought to what may appear simple problems.Hence my remaining three years in front despite a keen chasing pack.
I'm only new here and from what i see, the likes of Gardiners, J.Brimble and P.fogwill seem to me to be cutting edge. But if you are too, i'll take your word for it. You're operating in the background eh? Like your style !!!! Ninja !!! Oh, hang on, that names been taken ;D ;D
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the likes of Gardiners, J.Brimble and P.fogwill seem to me to be cutting edge.
Mike Id be interested to know why you think these guys are cutting edge.
I think one is personally, one might be but dont know that much about him and the other, no way.
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Gardiners took jeffs big idea and ran with it.Some of jeffs stuff, like low water usage, is a cul de sac.Peters stuff doesn't evolve.
Alex is pretty impressive.When he was on here he was also very well liked and helpfull.He was the closest thing this forums ever had to an expert.But when he was unsure who did he ask.Who was the expert's expert? Well a couple of times to do with hot systems, and electric reels he asked me. ;D
Hope this helps.
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Credit where it’s due slumpy
Maybe the first window cleaner using a an electric hose reel, other than that absolutely nothing you have done is new or cutting edge
You’re not even up to date, catch up ;)
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I want to know why you are being emailed :o and why are you replying?
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He was the closest thing this forums ever had to an expert.But when he was unsure who did he ask.Who was the expert's expert?
So there has never been an expert on here? But your the expert`s expert?
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I'm surprised Ewan hasn't suggested the only thing you're
noted for slumpy is talking about how great you are as opposed to Mr G whose humility was one of his most attractive attributes 8)
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the likes of Gardiners, J.Brimble and P.fogwill seem to me to be cutting edge.
Mike Id be interested to know why you think these guys are cutting edge.
I think one is personally, one might be but dont know that much about him and the other, no way.
Without going into detail they provide stuff and ideas that are actually usefull and doesn't cost 5 grand !!
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Very nice of you to point this out Mr Griffin.I'm too modest to confirm this of course, but cheers. ;D
There have been experts, but narrowing it to new and innovative ideas cuts things down.I could list what the ideas were.Alex's first was the shorter closed lenght that you now all take for granted.Jeff was fishing poles and working at heights.
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I want to know why you are being emailed :o and why are you replying?
One example: I posted ages ago about buying a cheap Hiace. I've had four emails asking how I sorted it. I've replied to them all and not heard a word back from three of them. The first one took me about half an hour to write; it was very detailed, so I was less than pleased to hear not a peep of thanks.
Vin
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I'm not joking about this Mike.I've always been on the cutting edge, but the rest of you do catch up.Take collecting, the majority used to collect, the majority now does not do that. I didn't invent not collecting, but as soon as i got a sniff of this i was all over it like a rash.I do lots of things that you don't do now, but in the future you will and wonder at the fact that you couldn't see it for yourself.
A few weeks ago i put a couple of simple logic problems up on here, vin was the only one to solve the problem.This is probably not just to do with brightness, but being bothered. I can be bothered and will devote hours of thought to what may appear simple problems.Hence my remaining three years in front despite a keen chasing pack.
I take it you are extracting the urine Slumpy? ;D
only you "think" you are in front. Your biggest let down is that you massively under estimate people who may not talk about the things you like to. People who have been doing it for years but just view it as common sense & not particularly innovative. In fact, you, are miles behind on many things! ;D
You've isolated your scope of attention by only entertaining the faces that fit! ;)
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Very nice of you to point this out Mr Griffin.I'm too modest to confirm this of course, but cheers. ;D
There have been experts, but narrowing it to new and innovative ideas cuts things down.I could list what the ideas were.Alex's first was the shorter closed lenght that you now all take for granted.Jeff was fishing poles and working at heights.
The extender pole set the course for all good poles afterwards.
Alex didn't invent the wheel either. But i agree about him being innovative.
I'd have to agree with tonys post. Apart from championing the electric hosereel, i can't see what you have done which many others haven't first.
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it is annoying when people cant type 2 words to your 100 of advice.
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When did the first harris pole get shouted about on here??
Rob ;D
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all from a man who couldnt unfreeze his transfer hose. :o :o :o :o ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Definition of greatness: When you think you are great and need to tell others you are not great, just swollen headed.
When you are great and other think so, you are truly great.
This thread smacks of I am ,me me me.For God sake grow up.
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Back on topic, I totally agree.
Recently I posted how I had come up with an idea for pricing jobs accurately, consistently the same every time, and very easily adaptable for altering costs. Although I am sure I am at least 3 years behind with my idea ;D
I had loads and loads of emails asking about it, so a spent about 30 minutes putting together a reply to try and explain how I do it.
I then sent it out to everyone who had asked, I got about 2 replies saying thank you.
How long would it take to hit the reply button, type thank you for the help, and hit send!!!
I will NEVER offer help again.
So to all you people out there who come on here to learn, whether the advice is good or bad the person who offers it does so to try and help YOU.
The first lesson you should learn is..
Manners and gratitude.
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That was Jack's first year anniversary post ;D
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I have been approached a few times and have found all of the guys to be polite and thankful.
Well, lucky you.
Vin
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Im sure if the advice is correct, helpful and advances the business of the person who is asking then they will offer their thanks quite willingly.
Otherwise the advice is probably pants and likely to do more harm than good to a businesses prospects and advancement. I suppose that might explain it
By the way Steve, thanks for the advise!
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;D :P
That was Jack's first year anniversary post
Hey well spotted Matt, you checking up on me? ;D
Your right, it is my first year as Jack. but been on here since 03 under a diferent banner.
I left for a while as i got fed up and bored, but missed all the friendly banter, Smiley and I honestly believe that if you are serious about your business this is a great great to pick up ideas and progress.
I was the first person in my area to get wfp, I learned about it first on here.
No-one's called Jack Wallace ;) who ever heard of a window-cleaner who sounds like an F.B.I. agent?
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Must be time of the month, i get about 50 emails a day, half say thanks, half dont, its just email
Slumps
Your best bet would of been to concentrate on the bigger picture, than on the finer detail.
Ignore the trivial and look at where you want to be.
Has this great machinery of yours given you a 100% increase turnover year on year, on an already established business.
We keep our equipment simple, it also gets abused daily, there isnt that much to go wrong and things are easily fixed, thats where the money is, not diy hobbying all day long.
Hard graft = Dough. Fannying about with your fancy equipment = smugness and self pride, but not dough.
Just think where you would be if you put all that effort into gaining new busines.
Dave ( sits back and waits for the kicking ) ;D
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Must be time of the month, i get about 50 emails a day, half say thanks, half dont, its just email
"It's just email" doesn't wash as an excuse for gross ignorance, I'm afraid.
Vin
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Vin
Emails get missed, I got back from 2 weeks on Holiday and had about 1000 emails to get through, couldnt possibly reply to them all.
If you want thanks, why not phone them and ask for it, or even email them again.
If its personal, they will probably thank you when they see you, if its bussiness, people can be extremely busy and things get miseed.
If your businesss becomes successful, and you get stretched you could end up in the same boat.
In business I try to stay focused and calm and dont let anything get me down, just stay focused and dont get de-railed by minor things, I just see the big picture thats all
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Emails get missed, I got back from 2 weeks on Holiday and had about 1000 emails to get through, couldnt possibly reply to them all.
Sorry to disagree again, but if I'd asked someone for something and they had responded during my time away, I'd thank them. I've had jobs where I used to get around a hundred emails a day, so I do understand what you're talking about. I'm not talking about unsolicited information; this is stuff people have asked for.
As I said, I'm not angry, just disappointed. If I sound angry, it's the joy of nuance in email.
Vin
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Those are fair comments Dave and you are right in what you say.It's good that you can tell me, if i was a complete waste of space you wouldn't bother.
As regards helping people and thankyou's, buying a hiace is a bad example, but for me being asked to clarify my own thoughts by explaining them to someone else has always been helpfull.
Groundhog was the harriss pole expert.
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buying a hiace is a bad example
I filled a page with exact details of how I bought one for a ridiculously low price. It isn't commonly known information and would apply to buying any vehicle, not just a Hiace. Getting a probable 25-33% discount on a used vehicle is worthy of "thanks".
Anyway, enough said.
Vin
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I've never been good at buying and selling so could probably do with this advice. But what i mean't was you probably already had a good grasp of this before you set it down on paper. I normaly understand things a little better after i have tried to explain them to someone else, that's what i was trying to say, and why i thought it was a bad example for this purpose.
In my view it's important to keep the brain stimulatd, even if there is some lack of reciprication involved, and you have to work with what you've got.Tossers but you've got to love 'em.
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buying a hiace is a bad example
I filled a page with exact details of how I bought one for a ridiculously low price. It isn't commonly known information and would apply to buying any vehicle, not just a Hiace. Getting a probable 25-33% discount on a used vehicle is worthy of "thanks".
Anyway, enough said.
i9 wouldnt mind this info
thanks cccwinercleaners@yahoo.co.uk
Vin
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Classic ;D
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whys buying a van a lot cheaper
a bad example i would like
this info please many thanks
cccwindowcleaners@yahoo.co.uk
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Giving good advice is often a matter of stating common sense, and it can affect people in different ways.
Some ask advice on things that they should have figured out for themselves, you can often be resented for stating the obvious, because the person who asked feels a little stupid when the obvious is pointed out to him. They won't thank you for this because their self esteem has been diminished. I guess it's just human nature.
Having used a Harris pole daily, and Recommending them on here to others including ground hog, I would be interested to hear the criteria for becoming a Harris, or any other mass produced pole expert.
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whys buying a van a lot cheaper
a bad example i would like
this info please many thanks
cccwindowcleaners@yahoo.co.uk
Not at home, so will forward the details when I get online.
Vin
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Vin,.. if I ever got info off you & didn't say thanks, I now apologise profusely!
And to everyone knocking Slumpy, a little respect is deserved here,... he was the first person on here (perhaps in the country) to have a DIY gas fired water heater for his wfp van, over 4 years ago if i remember right,.. and how many of you all are scrambling to get one now??!!
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Vin,.. if I ever got info off you & didn't say thanks, I now apologise profusely!
And to everyone knocking Slumpy, a little respect is deserved here,...
Oh, i (and sure others) have the utmost respect for clive and all his previous carnations. But when you see that ego bubble floating off unmolested, into the distance - the urge to get the pea shooter out is too irresistable a moment to pass by.
Anyway, no harm done - cos you know another one will come along soon. :)
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Vin,.. if I ever got info off you & didn't say thanks, I now apologise profusely!
And to everyone knocking Slumpy, a little respect is deserved here,...
Oh, i (and sure others) have the utmost respect for clive and all his previous carnations. But when you see that ego bubble floating off unmolested, into the distance - the urge to get the pea shooter out is too irresistable a moment to pass by.
Anyway, no harm done - cos you know another one will come along soon. :)
;D ;D ;D ;D
I can never tell when Slumpy is being serious or not. I do still insist though that he does heavily underestimate common sense! ;)
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Gav cam lammy, it's classic because he stated how annoyed he was helping ingrates and saying never again and you jump in and ask ask him for the info, and don't see any irony.
Dai, my calling groundhog the harris expert meant no harm. He was it's greatest champion, explainer, and u tube film chronicler.I believe he deleted over it in the end.
My favourite expert for inventions is joe uk. He makes me smile.One day i'll see him on dragons den and i'll choke on my cornflakes.
The best teacher was wally.
I read a book- how to become rich- by felix dennis britains richest man.He has no friends, has never married, and writes poems on an idyllic island that he owns.He wants to be remembered as a poet. The point being that he sees himself differently to how others do.Getting back to talking about myself because i'm sure mark wouldn't want it any other way, i have floated three huge ideas on here.You can count them, hot, that was one, electric reel two, and my marketing masterstroke three. Not everyone wants hot water, or good reels, or even lots of custies.For the most part people assume they already do it the best way and reject
my advice/ideas.The temptation for me, is to astound and i could if i wanted, but i won't.
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And to everyone knocking Slumpy, a little respect is deserved here,... he was the first person on here (perhaps in the country) to have a DIY gas fired water heater for his wfp van, over 4 years ago if i remember right,.. and how many of you all are scrambling to get one now??!!
He deserves no respect here. He's advocating his actions of not imparting information and effectivley operating his own secrect society, tells us he's an expert and then asks simple questions himself. I couldn't care less if he invented water. He's nothing more than a simple forum annoyance who is full of his own greatness.
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As quite a few have said before me, it's only a forum Mike, and all we give our opinions.For me to dish it out i have to take it too.But to get back on topic this thread is about vin being a grumpy old man not me, but i can see you have a grumpyness to be reckoned with too Mike.
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As quite a few have said before me, it's only a forum Mike, and all we give our opinions.For me to dish it out i have to take it too.But to get back on topic this thread is about vin being a grumpy old man not me, but i can see you have a grumpyness to be reckoned with too Mike.
slumpy you have to admit mike has a point, you posted here you are three years ahead etc, but on another post you said you have given up until the new year and you are three weeks behind, and on another post you asked how to defrost a transfer hose ???
make your mind up are you ahead of everyone or are the thousands of w/c that will be working this week ahead of you?
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Hi Stu,
Yes all true.That makes you right.And i think any crits of me are often quite mild. IE i get off lightly, after all yours and mike's comments were not rancourous.But let me answer your question with another.
If you were faced with daytime temperatures of minus six and the coldest december in a century would you;
A. Clean windows by starting later and making the best fist of things you could.
Or
B.Concentrate on your other business, which just happens to be selling hats, gloves, scarves ,neck warmers, thermal underwear, heat holder socks etc.The combination of the coldest december in a century and a knock on from the credit crunch being major retailers being ill prepared and understocked has led to unprecendented demand and sales
I'm working seven days a week twelve hours a day- just not cleaning windows at the mo.
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Does that mean your a jack-of-all-trades and a master-of-none? ;)
Maybe even a fair-weather window-cleaner to boot ;)
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Hi Stu,
Yes all true.That makes you right.And i think any crits of me are often quite mild. IE i get off lightly, after all yours and mike's comments were not rancourous.But let me answer your question with another.
If you were faced with daytime temperatures of minus six and the coldest december in a century would you;
A. Clean windows by starting later and making the best fist of things you could.
Or
B.Concentrate on your other business, which just happens to be selling hats, gloves, scarves ,neck warmers, thermal underwear, heat holder socks etc.The combination of the coldest december in a century and a knock on from the credit crunch being major retailers being ill prepared and understocked has led to unprecendented demand and sales
I'm working seven days a week twelve hours a day- just not cleaning windows at the mo.
I will be doing A but I will start at the usual time and finish when I am finished ;)
and if you really want to make money on a stall add snow shovel and rock salt to your list ;)
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Window cleaners eh? Who,d be one ? ;D ;D
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Does that mean your a jack-of?
:o