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Title: chemspec DFC 210 v Pureclean
Post by: Mike Halliday on December 14, 2010, 05:27:23 pm
anyone used Chemspec  DFC210 ? or compared it to Pureclean.

both are about the same price but the DFC dilutes 128-1 where the pureclean is 60-1

I bought some DFC this morning and used it on a trashed student house and it did a excellent job, its too soon to say its good stuff but it worked well today
Title: Re: chemspec DFC 210 v Pureclean
Post by: Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus) on December 14, 2010, 05:38:31 pm
I've used both Mike, got to say I prefer Pureclean.

I think it was August this year that I decided to use Pureclean on every job for a whole month.

Apart from using solvents on some spots, I never felt the need to use anything with more oomph.
Title: Re: chemspec DFC 210 v Pureclean
Post by: Gary Humphreys on December 14, 2010, 06:00:27 pm
Pureclean all day long. Got through a 20litres of 105 and really wanted to like it but never bought it again.
Title: Re: chemspec DFC 210 v Pureclean
Post by: Derek_Walker on December 14, 2010, 07:39:39 pm
I use DFC 210, mix it with energiser and it will cut through heavy soiling. As you say Mike it is very economical.
Title: Re: chemspec DFC 210 v Pureclean
Post by: markpowell on December 14, 2010, 07:46:55 pm
Never tried Chemspecs stuff but used to use pureclean all the time a couple of years since but dont anymore.
Use it as a spotter now and then on food and drink spills.
Mark
Title: Re: chemspec DFC 210 v Pureclean
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on December 14, 2010, 09:53:59 pm
I've been using DFC210 I can't tell the difference between it and Pureclean they both offer IMO identical cleaning.

Shaun
Title: Re: chemspec DFC 210 v Pureclean
Post by: Mike Halliday on December 15, 2010, 06:53:54 am
Shaun, Steve & derek are you using it at 128-1 or stronger?
Title: Re: chemspec DFC 210 v Pureclean
Post by: Derek_Walker on December 15, 2010, 01:43:12 pm
I use it at 128-1, never had to use it any stronger. If I need to boost it I use Chemspec energiser.
Title: Re: chemspec DFC 210 v Pureclean
Post by: steve cardy on December 15, 2010, 04:13:59 pm
Ive tried both and found especially when sprayed on hot the dfc removes alot more of the black type of spots you find on carpets. Apart from that i think you get a similar result.
Title: Re: chemspec DFC 210 v Pureclean
Post by: Doug Holloway on December 15, 2010, 05:52:13 pm
Hi Guys

Looking through the data sheets I would suspect both are sodium tripolyhosphate , the microsplitter chemical.

The Chemspec one is slightly higher pH

Cheers

Doug
Title: Re: chemspec DFC 210 v Pureclean
Post by: Mike Halliday on December 15, 2010, 05:59:49 pm
but are they pure sodium tripolyhosphate or do they contain fillers, which would explain why DFC can be diluted nearly twice as much as pureclean ( it has more active ingredient)

Title: Re: chemspec DFC 210 v Pureclean
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on December 15, 2010, 07:09:31 pm
I dilute it to 128-1 approx, still not sure about draft mark removal with it though.

Shaun
Title: Re: chemspec DFC 210 v Pureclean
Post by: cleaningmaster on December 16, 2010, 05:11:44 pm
Try SPM from Solutions. ( Solutions Powdered Microsplitter )
I am getting better results than i ever did with Pureclean.

Regards

Daryl
Title: Re: chemspec DFC 210 v Pureclean
Post by: Mike Halliday on December 16, 2010, 05:20:34 pm
Daryl can't see it on their website :-\

been using DFC for a few days and I'm not totally convinced its good stuff, might try using it a bit stronger.
Title: Re: chemspec DFC 210 v Pureclean
Post by: cleaningmaster on December 17, 2010, 04:38:57 pm
Mike ,

Its not on their website :(

I have used it on some trashed EOT carpets and i couldn't believe the results. Its no powerburst but am getting much better results than Pureclean.

Regards

Daryl
Title: Re: chemspec DFC 210 v Pureclean
Post by: cleaningmaster on December 17, 2010, 04:44:20 pm
Mike ,

Its not on their website :(

I have used it on some trashed EOT carpets and i couldn't believe the results. Its no powerburst but am getting much better results than Pureclean.

Regards

Daryl

ps i was told not to agitate, :o i dont
Title: Re: chemspec DFC 210 v Pureclean
Post by: Jamie Pearson on December 18, 2010, 03:48:46 pm
DFC 105/210 doesn't contain phosphates.

http://www.chemspec-canada.com/fileshare/product_sheets/dfc/dfc_210.pdf

I still have some of the prototype 105 powder in my office drawer.
Title: Re: chemspec DFC 210 v Pureclean
Post by: mark shannon on December 18, 2010, 06:22:06 pm
Whats the cost and dilution Daryl?
Title: Re: chemspec DFC 210 v Pureclean
Post by: wynne jones on December 18, 2010, 11:09:52 pm
Mike

SPM is available but you have to ring up for it. I now use it instead of pureclean. The downside is it comes in 15kg tubs.
Title: Re: chemspec DFC 210 v Pureclean
Post by: cleaningmaster on December 19, 2010, 03:40:44 pm
Hi Mark,

The same as Pureclean 1 scoop per litre.

No agitation :o

Regards

Daryl
Title: Re: chemspec DFC 210 v Pureclean
Post by: wynne jones on December 19, 2010, 04:35:43 pm
Daryl

Same here, heard people raving about it, it's not as good as some potent mixes I use but as a general product it produces  cracking results. I still aggitate, you lazy bugger. ;D
Title: Re: chemspec DFC 210 v Pureclean
Post by: Simon@arenaclean on December 19, 2010, 05:18:47 pm
I've yet to find a product that is not improved by agitation, even if it's a rake. For nothing else it distributes it better. A light groom on loop pile only though but it still helps, though I concede I have not tried SPM. I prefer pure clean as it's a much more adaptable chem.
Title: Re: chemspec DFC 210 v Pureclean
Post by: wynne jones on December 19, 2010, 06:41:33 pm
I don't know for sure but I reckon SPM is probably a stronger splitter like some of the HD solutions. I use it on wool, I even pad it. :o
Title: Re: chemspec DFC 210 v Pureclean
Post by: cleaningmaster on December 19, 2010, 07:10:57 pm
Wynne

Have you tried it with solu-boost? its almost on par with Powerburst

Regards

Daryl
Title: Re: chemspec DFC 210 v Pureclean
Post by: wynne jones on December 19, 2010, 10:19:24 pm
Nope, I will certainly give it a try though. Thanks  :)
Title: Re: chemspec DFC 210 v Pureclean
Post by: Mike Halliday on January 30, 2011, 11:23:21 am
bought this on the14th of dec, I have used it on 80% of all carpet & suite cleaning since then.

its worked as good as any other M/S I've tried very rarely have I had to resort to a different spotter.

cost me £30 and has produced about £3k cleaning, so the chemical cost has been 1% of the total cleaning cost.
Title: Re: chemspec DFC 210 v Pureclean
Post by: ianharper on January 30, 2011, 04:18:19 pm
Mike

the benefit of DFC is that its for people with allergy's to cleaning products and also leave no residue. its a product that meets a need in the market.

Respect

Ian Harper
http://safe-carpet-cleaning-for-babies.co.uk/