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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Jonathan Spencer on December 08, 2010, 11:31:07 pm

Title: Urgent advice needed please.
Post by: Jonathan Spencer on December 08, 2010, 11:31:07 pm
Not sure how to put this down as I have been angry about it.

I was in Asda yesterday morning getting some screenwash and I saw one of my customers.  I went over to her and explained that I am running behind due to the breakdown of my relationship and because of the snow.  This woman then basically said that the last time I was there that I took some gold rings from her kitchen.  I was like "What?????".  She said that I was the only person who had been in the back garden and because the back door was open it must have been me.

I told her that I was not a thief and that I would not sully my good reputation with stealing from peoples houses.  She then said that my repuation is going to be gone.

So What do I do About it?
Title: Re: Urgent advice needed please.
Post by: geefree on December 08, 2010, 11:35:55 pm
See your solicitor , ask him to issue a warning letter to her  , stating that you intend to sue her for false accusations, slander, and causing harm to your reputation..

Now.  :o
Title: Re: Urgent advice needed please.
Post by: BORBRYCE on December 08, 2010, 11:36:21 pm
Sound's a right nutter, ignore or report to police or hand the rings back. I think she is nuts mate and probably all her neighbours do too.
Title: Re: Urgent advice needed please.
Post by: richywilts on December 08, 2010, 11:37:27 pm
should of said sorry love get sod all for gold only take platinum!!!
Title: Re: Urgent advice needed please.
Post by: Jonathan Spencer on December 08, 2010, 11:37:54 pm
Sound's a right nutter, ignore or report to police or hand the rings back. I think she is nuts mate and probably all her neighbours do too.

I did not touch the rings, never even saw them.
Title: Re: Urgent advice needed please.
Post by: Tom White on December 08, 2010, 11:41:45 pm
She's a nutter.  You could write to her stating that you are not a thief and that you feel hurt that she's accused you; I'll help you draft it if you like.

But I wouldn't worry, and obviously you're not going to go back there.

Try not to lose sleep over it, mate, the woman is obviously 'not well' (in the head).
Title: Re: Urgent advice needed please.
Post by: Steve_c on December 08, 2010, 11:42:33 pm
Go straight to the police.
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Post by: mci services on December 08, 2010, 11:43:26 pm
Sounds a case of my god he is not coming round this close to Christmas when I am skint lets accuse him of something quickly so he wont come again.
Title: Re: Urgent advice needed please.
Post by: geefree on December 08, 2010, 11:44:30 pm
Dont matter wether she is a nutter or not, i would still have a legal letter sent,

reputation !!

takes years to build, and a week to lose.
Title: Re: Urgent advice needed please.
Post by: G Griffin on December 08, 2010, 11:53:52 pm
How many gold rings were there? Five? Five Gold Rings! Seasonal but never mind  ::).
Was the top on the screenwash, cos it sounds as though she`d been inhaling it. They say it`s dangerous stuff.
I wouldn`t worry too much she sounds like a crank.
I would go to the police and tell them about your conversation.
Title: Re: Urgent advice needed please.
Post by: Ian101 on December 08, 2010, 11:57:57 pm
go to police asap ... at least it will be on record if nothing else
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Post by: prestige cleaners on December 09, 2010, 12:59:27 am
I would have called her bluff, and said well let's go down to the police and get this reported. There's some evil people out there mind.
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Post by: greencleaning on December 09, 2010, 02:33:31 am
this is probably your ion a worst situation, try to report to police officer and makes an investigation about it. mistake will not be correct if you leave them unresolved.this will ruin your personality...
Title: Re: Urgent advice needed please.
Post by: Jonathan Spencer on December 09, 2010, 05:23:32 am
Should I just go around to the house and offer to go to the police with her?
Title: Re: Urgent advice needed please.
Post by: Poles R Us on December 09, 2010, 05:43:00 am
ask her to go with you to the police station today and sort it out , thats the only way i would do it.
did she report them stolen?
Title: Re: Urgent advice needed please.
Post by: Jonathan Spencer on December 09, 2010, 06:14:37 am
ask her to go with you to the police station today and sort it out , thats the only way i would do it.
did she report them stolen?

I do not think so.  I am going to pop into the local police station on my way out today.
Title: Re: Urgent advice needed please.
Post by: Dave Anderson on December 09, 2010, 06:23:31 am
Just protect yourself...don't bother asking if she wants to go to the nick with you...just go yourself and report the accusation.

You will feel better about it then..

Dave.
Title: Re: Urgent advice needed please.
Post by: Paul Coleman on December 09, 2010, 06:26:50 am
Go straight to the police.

I would go to the police about this too.
Title: Re: Urgent advice needed please.
Post by: Jonathan Spencer on December 09, 2010, 06:28:47 am
Cheers for you help lads.  Will go the police on my way to work and report my conversation.  Should I just leave it at then?

I have spent 3 years building my round up from doing it part-time to nearly a full round.  I do not want one person destroying all my hard work.
Title: Re: Urgent advice needed please.
Post by: Paul Coleman on December 09, 2010, 06:44:06 am
Cheers for you help lads.  Will go the police on my way to work and report my conversation.  Should I just leave it at then?

I have spent 3 years building my round up from doing it part-time to nearly a full round.  I do not want one person destroying all my hard work.

I suggest you ask for some written proof that you have made the visit and why you have done it.  I say this because as you are not actually reporting a crime, the person on the desk may be loathe to record it properly.  Of course it is possible that she may be about to attempt an insurance scam - though it's unlikely they would pay her because they normally insist on "forced or violent entry" before paying.  Leaving her door open wouldn't count as such - if indeed she did actually lose any jewellery at all.
If she really has been a victim of theft, I suppose it's possible to understand why she would be looking at anyone who was around about the time she noticed the items missing. I suppose it's also natural that she would look at any irregular visitors rather than invited guests/relatives.  If she really believed you had done the deed, I believe she would have already reported this to the police.  My hunch is that she suspects a friend/relative so has held back as she is unsure.
Of course, this assumes that a theft has taken place at all.  Maybe she is trying to scam.  Maybe she has alzheimers.  Maybe she is mentally ill.
Title: Re: Urgent advice needed please.
Post by: Jonathan Spencer on December 09, 2010, 06:55:51 am
Cheers for you help lads.  Will go the police on my way to work and report my conversation.  Should I just leave it at then?

I have spent 3 years building my round up from doing it part-time to nearly a full round.  I do not want one person destroying all my hard work.

I suggest you ask for some written proof that you have made the visit and why you have done it.  I say this because as you are not actually reporting a crime, the person on the desk may be loathe to record it properly.  Of course it is possible that she may be about to attempt an insurance scam - though it's unlikely they would pay her because they normally insist on "forced or violent entry" before paying.  Leaving her door open wouldn't count as such - if indeed she did actually lose any jewellery at all.
If she really has been a victim of theft, I suppose it's possible to understand why she would be looking at anyone who was around about the time she noticed the items missing. I suppose it's also natural that she would look at any irregular visitors rather than invited guests/relatives.  If she really believed you had done the deed, I believe she would have already reported this to the police.  My hunch is that she suspects a friend/relative so has held back as she is unsure.
Of course, this assumes that a theft has taken place at all.  Maybe she is trying to scam.  Maybe she has alzheimers.  Maybe she is mentally ill.

Really unsure what to do now.
Title: Re: Urgent advice needed please.
Post by: Poles R Us on December 09, 2010, 07:28:20 am
have you got a criminal record? if not go to the police . if you have i think its best left alone ,they wont belive you.
Title: Re: Urgent advice needed please.
Post by: Jonathan Spencer on December 09, 2010, 07:31:58 am
have you got a criminal record?

None at all, apart from an old drink driving which does not count.
Title: Re: Urgent advice needed please.
Post by: Steven Shoreditch on December 09, 2010, 07:40:36 am
have you got a criminal record?

None at all, apart from an old drink driving which does not count.
You might be surprised how long the police can hold a grudge.
Title: Re: Urgent advice needed please.
Post by: Jonathan Spencer on December 09, 2010, 07:53:00 am
Will leave it till tomorrow, see what the general opinion is.
Title: Re: Urgent advice needed please.
Post by: A & J Owen Window Cleaning on December 09, 2010, 08:52:47 am
I would write a letter to her saying that you were shocked at her accusation and that it is utterly untrue. I would also say that you are contacting the police and that if you don't get an immediate retraction that you will be taking legal advice regarding an accusation of slander.

She may be a nutter/crank but it's not worth taking the risk - in my opinion!

Title: Re: Urgent advice needed please.
Post by: G Griffin on December 09, 2010, 09:39:53 am
have you got a criminal record? if not go to the police . if you have i think its best left alone ,they wont belive you.
What all of them ??? So if she does go to the police and says she suspects Jonathan, he protests his innocence, then they are not going to believe him anyway  ::).

Jonathan, go to the police and make a statement. The police officer may appear put out by it and it maybe be pointless but it`s your reputation that you are talking about it.
Don`t let them fob you off.

Ps. go in to the station and don`t be tempted to just give them a ring  ;D.   
Sorry, I couldn`t help myself  :-[.
Title: Re: Urgent advice needed please.
Post by: Tom White on December 09, 2010, 09:45:08 am
Is this property in a clutch of properties where you clean within a tight-nit community?

If not, I wouldn't worry about slander, nor incurring expensive fees for solicitors letters, which are pretty pointless anyway, IMO.  I've had a few myself in the past (nothing to do with work), and they just made me smile; a solicitor can't do anything; they just understand the law (or they should).

Reporting it to the police could be a good idea, if only to see what they have to say.  

I fell out with a lass over a broken wishing well and she threatened to 'lose me customers', but I lost none.  All her neighbours disliked the woman because she is mad as a fruit cake and agreed with me that what I did to recompense the lady was more than fair.

In fact I was going to buckle to her demands (it's awkward when you're not 100% sure you're in the right), and her immediate neighbour told me not to be stupid; that was good enough for me.

I personally wouldn't worry.
Title: Re: Urgent advice needed please.
Post by: Matthew Bateman on December 09, 2010, 05:47:34 pm
Put a brick through her window, that'll teach her

 ;D


Title: Re: Urgent advice needed please.
Post by: Crystal-clear on December 09, 2010, 06:01:59 pm
This is just her way of Cancelling nothing will happen, but if she does bad mouth you can take her to the cleaners.


Get in touch with a solicitor i would make her aware of what you are ready to do to protect yourself but as i say i know for a fact this is her way of cancelling

i might be wrong about this being the reason to cancel but I bet she was a bad payer or a late payer?
 
Title: Re: Urgent advice needed please.
Post by: Sir Squeaky on December 09, 2010, 06:05:13 pm
Put a brick through her window, that'll teach her

 ;D



Then drive down the police station p1ssed and tell them it wasn't you.
Title: Re: Urgent advice needed please.
Post by: Tom White on December 09, 2010, 06:16:25 pm
Or leave a half filled bottle of petrol on her doorstep, with a bit of rag hanging out of it.

Then phone her the following morning, and in a really amicable voice, ask her if she still thought that you stole those rings!
Title: Re: Urgent advice needed please.
Post by: dai on December 09, 2010, 07:20:50 pm
If you have other customers as neighbours, you might mention it when your talking with them. After all if you had anything to hide you wouldn't have raised the matter.
Obviously not all of them, just the ones your on friendly terms with.
You could enquire casually about the accusers mental state, they are bound to ask why, and then you could relate your story.
That would go a long way towards preserving your reputation.