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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Martin-Swinscoe on December 02, 2010, 02:47:17 pm

Title: signing on
Post by: Martin-Swinscoe on December 02, 2010, 02:47:17 pm
Due to the extreme weather now and what looks like extreme weather for the next few weeks.
Can us window cleaners go and sign on ???
afterall we all pay our taxes and national insurance so surely we should be entitled to a bit of what we've paid in all these years??

Can anyone tell me what we are entitled too.
I know we should've put a slush fund together for these bad weather days but if you don't earn it how can you save it?
Title: Re: signing on
Post by: Sunshine/Cleaning on December 02, 2010, 02:51:33 pm
You can if you close your books, but I would say you could earn at least the dole in a day a week so I would say it's not worth it.
Title: Re: signing on
Post by: chopsie on December 02, 2010, 02:51:33 pm
I believe this was covered last winter if u do a search. I do not see why u cannot sign on.
Title: Re: signing on
Post by: ronaldo on December 02, 2010, 02:51:33 pm
When we had the last lot of bad weather one of the lads that works for me signed on and got his rent paid on his flat a a bit of benefit, and yes your entitled but they will ask to see your accounts when you make the claim.
Title: Re: signing on
Post by: Paul Coleman on December 02, 2010, 03:05:56 pm
Due to the extreme weather now and what looks like extreme weather for the next few weeks.
Can us window cleaners go and sign on ???
afterall we all pay our taxes and national insurance so surely we should be entitled to a bit of what we've paid in all these years??

Can anyone tell me what we are entitled too.
I know we should've put a slush fund together for these bad weather days but if you don't earn it how can you save it?

I think things tightened up over the years some years ago but it used to be easier to be "sick" if you were self employed.  You could sign yourself off for the first week (of which the first three working days were unpaid), and needed a doctor to sign you off for longer to extend the claim.  I know the system has changed a lot since I last claimed sickness benefit while self-employed.
Without being sick, I think the only route to benefits is the means tested one.  I think they take your annual income from the previous year.  This is made extremely difficult on purpose.  One way to skirt around some of these issues is to be an employee of your own company (ltd.?) so that you are effectively on the PAYE system.  This is probably too much hassle for what you would get out of it.
If things are desperate, you may qualify for a crisis loan but don't hold your breath.
Title: Re: signing on
Post by: Ian Rochester on December 02, 2010, 03:13:09 pm
I don't think you can if you're self employed, however if you have any staff they can
Title: Re: signing on
Post by: barry mallett on December 02, 2010, 03:17:02 pm
i think most trad guys sign on all year round maybe they could help ;)
Title: Re: signing on
Post by: darren clarke on December 02, 2010, 03:46:18 pm
go on sick,  it is easier and u will get sick pay, u might not get dole as u r making ur self unemployed
Title: Re: signing on
Post by: luther1 on December 02, 2010, 03:46:31 pm
i think most trad guys sign on all year round maybe they could help ;)

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: signing on
Post by: richywilts on December 02, 2010, 03:58:26 pm
i think most trad guys sign on all year round maybe they could help ;)

hahahahahahha funny
Title: Re: signing on
Post by: john the cleaner on December 02, 2010, 04:43:50 pm
reply to barry mallet i  work trad and have never signed on i think u should be carefull wot u say mate no call for it u should think before u open your big mouth
Title: Re: signing on
Post by: julius ilori on December 02, 2010, 05:54:37 pm
reply to barry mallet ....hope u r joking .....am trad and have NEVER signed on.....maybe you know more than you let on eh!eh!matey.........NOT FUNNY!!!!! >:( >:(
Title: Re: signing on
Post by: barry mallett on December 02, 2010, 06:16:31 pm
if your not signing on are you on sickness benefits or disability ;)
Title: Re: signing on
Post by: elite mike on December 02, 2010, 06:17:38 pm
reply to barry mallet ....hope u r joking .....am trad and have NEVER signed on.....maybe you know more than you let on eh!eh!matey.........NOT FUNNY!!!!! >:( >:(
reply to barry mallet i  work trad and have never signed on i think u should be carefull wot u say mate no call for it u should think before u open your big mouth
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

you will get to know barry s  posts, and realise you have over reacted

nice one barry top form ;)
Title: Re: signing on
Post by: darren clarke on December 02, 2010, 06:25:21 pm
come on barry  gives us some top tips for working in the snow?
Title: Re: signing on
Post by: David OCuilleain on December 02, 2010, 08:26:57 pm
I think you can work up to 16 hours a week and earn £20 before it afects benifits but they make you apply for other jobs and you have to be available to take work.
Title: Re: signing on
Post by: darren clarke on December 02, 2010, 08:41:13 pm
u can 15 hours,  earn up to 102, or 65 if single,  you have to look for jobs  and get to keep the first £10 u make before it is deducted