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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Carey Ward on November 30, 2010, 09:19:04 pm
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Hi - I'm interested in getting a hot water system but would like to know if you guys get much benefit from it
Would be interested in which system you use
Cheers :)
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hi mate i have a heat wave £2.500 runs off diesel tank also has a frost stat setting so it switches on when it reaches 2 degrees and runs hot water through the system ,money well spent i bought another one for my other van no regrets but i bet you will get people who disagree with me ,
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hi mate i have a heat wave £2.500 runs off diesel tank also has a frost stat setting so it switches on when it reaches 2 degrees and runs hot water through the system ,money well spent i bought another one for my other van no regrets but i bet you will get people who disagree with me ,
lol you really are on a wind up...
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whys he on a wind up? looks like a good set up the vari hot box
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hi mate i have a heat wave £2.500 runs off diesel tank also has a frost stat setting so it switches on when it reaches 2 degrees and runs hot water through the system ,money well spent i bought another one for my other van no regrets but i bet you will get people who disagree with me ,
lol you really are on a wind up...
ooops sorry mate wrong ANT thought you was the other ANT on here who was just starting up ..
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hi mate i have a heat wave £2.500 runs off diesel tank also has a frost stat setting so it switches on when it reaches 2 degrees and runs hot water through the system ,money well spent i bought another one for my other van no regrets but i bet you will get people who disagree with me ,
does it pump hot water through the whole wfp system or just heats up the unit?
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yo plug the hose back in to the top of the tank so it circulates through the hoses and the hole system to stop it freezing
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Nice. Sounds like a good set up
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I HAVE A CONCEPT 2 0 SYSTEM RUNS ON LPG TANK UNDERNEATH VAN FILL UP AT PETROL STATION 70PENCE A LITRE 1 50 PER DAY 600 LITRES FULLY COMPLIANT FOR INSURANCE BUT EXPENSIVE TO BUY
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The concept2o system needs 2.5 litres a minute to run hot. Does that put you off using it?
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The concept2o system needs 2.5 litres a minute to run hot. Does that put you off using it?
What of water?
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For those who doubt hot i will give you a comparison from today.
2 x vivaros. one with a cold system and one with a hot.
hot system had been drained and fired up straight away and worked fine
cold system had been drained and wouldn't work. i thought that even if it did get going it wouldn't work for long as its -3
i spoke with another local window cleaner to see how he was getting on as he was out with his cold system. he didn't get to do one house as his water had froze.
My hot system has been out working all day and will get a full days work in.
So the moral of the story is 4 more days like this the hot system would of paid for itself
I'm so glad i got it ;)
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no i use hot water all the time but you are right about flow rate in my experience quicker flow rate quicker job done
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For those who doubt hot i will give you a comparison from today.
2 x vivaros. one with a cold system and one with a hot.
hot system had been drained and fired up straight away and worked fine
cold system had been drained and wouldn't work. i thought that even if it did get going it wouldn't work for long as its -3
i spoke with another local window cleaner to see how he was getting on as he was out with his cold system. he didn't get to do one house as his water had froze.
My hot system has been out working all day and will get a full days work in.
So the moral of the story is 4 more days like this the hot system would of paid for itself
I'm so glad i got it ;)
You got yours from PF didn't you? What's the rough price for an add on for 2 man fitted, as the prices on the website are supply only? I have a Tucker system i want to put hot on now.
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i had mine fitted with a 800 litre delivery so i only got charged 2500 i think mine was worked into the price of the cold system.
4200 all in for a 800 litre hot delivery (minus the di) i think is pretty good.
i think its about 3000 for just the hot add on fitted someone said. seems similar price to the varitech i think.
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Thats a good price really, and the all in even better!
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its a real good set up to. i was over the moon with just the system but with the hot add on its fantastic
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What delivery hoses are you guys with hot water using?
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i have a heat wave £2.500 runs off diesel tank also has a frost stat setting so it switches on when it reaches 2 degrees and runs hot water through the system ,money well spent i bought another one for my other van no regrets...
Ant
did it cost much to get fitted ?
was that difficult ?
got any pics of it fitted ?
thanks
rob
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For those who doubt hot i will give you a comparison from today.
2 x vivaros. one with a cold system and one with a hot.
hot system had been drained and fired up straight away and worked fine
cold system had been drained and wouldn't work. i thought that even if it did get going it wouldn't work for long as its -3
i spoke with another local window cleaner to see how he was getting on as he was out with his cold system. he didn't get to do one house as his water had froze.
My hot system has been out working all day and will get a full days work in.
So the moral of the story is 4 more days like this the hot system would of paid for itself
I'm so glad i got it ;)
true a hot water system would allow you to work , when a cold water system would freeze,
but what about water freezing on the ground when the temp is below feezing, what if some one slipped and then sued you , i use a cold system it is not froze , but will not work today for the above reasons.
daz
daz
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Steve. Haven't you got the frost protection stat fitted to your PF? I'm talking with Andrew Bramley at PF about fitting the 9KW water heater to my twin pump 650 LT, DI van mount and it includes the frost stat.
Their closed for business today because of the snow though :( staff couldn't get to work :)
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yeah i have the frost stat fitting to protect. it kicks in automatically at 1c. the only thing i would ask for which i'm having built and sent to me is the same as what the previous poster said about having the hot water circulate round the system at night to keep all the pipe work warm. its a switch that will run your pump on slow and circulate the water back to the tank to keep it all defrosted.
saying that though since i have emptied the pipework at night it has started up first time anyways.
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Yeah Andrew mentioned this switch yesterday so I guess I'll get it fitted, I'm guessing you have to disconnect the hose that feeds your hose reel or pole and put this in your tank so you dont start pumping out water while the van is parked up over night?
To be honest it wont make much difference to me as my working parts, pumps DI etc are in a thermal insulated cabinet tank, the decision to go hot was purely about being able to work on the coldest of days without fear of hose reels and brush heads freezing whilst working on a job.
Cracked glass does concern me but I guess once you've adjusted the temperature correctly then this can be avoided
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Yeah Andrew mentioned this switch yesterday so I guess I'll get it fitted, I'm guessing you have to disconnect the hose that feeds your hose reel or pole and put this in your tank so you dont start pumping out water while the van is parked up over night?
To be honest it wont make much difference to me as my working parts, pumps DI etc are in a thermal insulated cabinet tank, the decision to go hot was purely about being able to work on the coldest of days without fear of hose reels and brush heads freezing whilst working on a job.
Cracked glass does concern me but I guess once you've adjusted the temperature correctly then this can be avoided
like i say since emptying my hoses mine has started first time as the pipes are clear. just to keep working in freezing conditions is what i needed to so its ticked the boxes
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if you can afford hot get hot
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i hope to be going hot very soon just trying to decide which system to go for been looking at pf and ionics i know ionics are more exspensive but still waiting for a beter price from both of them
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Thermo pure by ionics hasnt let me down, works great all day even at these temps -6
cleans great, and dries quick, happy bunny I am, my advise, go for it, you wont look back !!!
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i have a heat wave £2.500 runs off diesel tank also has a frost stat setting so it switches on when it reaches 2 degrees and runs hot water through the system ,money well spent i bought another one for my other van no regrets...
Ant
did it cost much to get fitted ?
was that difficult ?
got any pics of it fitted ?
thanks
rob
2500 inc fitting,i am more than happy to put pics on here but you will have to tell me how sorry crap with computers
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ionic pro 7 thermo pure. i use a trigger to control water flow, as hot water flows through pole it warms my hands up. lovely :)
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2500 inc fitting,i am more than happy to put pics on here but you will have to tell me how sorry crap with computers.
sorry ant - i don't know how to put pictures up either.
£2,500 fitted sounds good - who fitted it for you ?
and did it take long to fit ?
thanks...
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varitech
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To the guys wanting to post pictures.
hit the reply button, then look just below the box you normaly type in, it says "additional options" click that, then hit the "browse" button, find your picture and post.
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Thermo pure by ionics hasnt let me down, works great all day even at these temps -6
cleans great, and dries quick, happy bunny I am, my advise, go for it, you wont look back !!!
Does the Thermo Pure have a frost stat to protect the water heater pipes? or do you have to make sure the back of your van stays above freezing with an electric fan heater over night?
Looks like I'm have a Pure Freedom water heater fitted to my cold system some time over the next few weeks, but I have also had my eye on a used Thermopure system to use in a second van, just out of interest how much maintenance does the Thermopure require and do Ionics recommend a maintenance schedule for these systems?
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mine has no frost stat, i have a tubular heater in the back of the van just to keep it above freezing overnight. my brother in law has a pro 6 thermo, bought second hand over a year ago; hasn't had any problems whatsoever. im not sure if ionic recommend a maintenance schedule though. they claim it can work down to -14.
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Thanks guys for all the posts - nice to have so many of you with positive comments.
Have booked van in next week with purefreedom for a 2 man set up - hopefully with frostat and return to tank
Any PF users got any other tips or advice to add
Cheers Carey ;)
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Thanks guys for all the posts - nice to have so many of you with positive comments.
Have booked van in next week with purefreedom for a 2 man set up - hopefully with frostat and return to tank
Any PF users got any other tips or advice to add
Cheers Carey ;)
hi carey for the price we pay for them you make sure they throw a frost stat controller in and return the hoses back to the top of the tank all they need to do is make 2 holes and fit two connectors to it depending on what connectors you have on your hoses on
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We have a 600ltr Ionic Thermopure.......it really is a fantastic machine........when we can keep it running
it is charged every nite till next morning some days it will work all day without a problem then on other days it will the heat exchanger will go into it shut down proceedure after just 20mins work then we have to run the van and re-start the heat exchanger........sumtime 5 or 6 times a day which can be very frustrating its had a new lesuire batt 8 months agao as the batt Ionics supplied died on us after 12 months
now back to the positive............
every other w/c round here this week have been frozen off or snowed in not us today we did 3 of tomorrow's jobs as we are ahead of schedule
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Thanks guys for all the posts - nice to have so many of you with positive comments.
Have booked van in next week with purefreedom for a 2 man set up - hopefully with frostat and return to tank
Any PF users got any other tips or advice to add
Cheers Carey ;)
i have the same system, the frost stat kicks in and diverts hot water back to tank the only trouble with that in these such low temps is your RO and other filters are still not protected from the cold, i think it would be better if the water was diverted through all filters and RO before going to tank then the whole system would be protected, this is something i will be looking into in the next couple of days.