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Title: IPA Flammable Test
Post by: Mr Bungalow on November 29, 2010, 10:24:54 pm
Hello All,

Tomorrow I am going to do a test with IPA to see how flammable it really is when diluted with water at various rates see below for dilution rates;

75% water to 25% IPA
50% water to 50% IPA
25% water to 75% IPA

I am going to mix each solution in a bucket and then put a lighted match to it each time, to see what happens, and before I get any wisecracks no I am not going to be looking directly above the bucket.  I definately do not want to take the risk of burning my eyebrows off!

Hopefully this will alleviate any worries for some people who go on about using it in their WFP systems.

Regards.
Title: Re: IPA Flammable Test
Post by: mci services on November 29, 2010, 10:29:38 pm
why bother the dilution rates for it actually to work at freezing conditions is uneconomical
Title: Re: IPA Flammable Test
Post by: tompoole on November 29, 2010, 10:52:58 pm
Wow you must be bored! What you going to be like in feb:-))
Title: Re: IPA Flammable Test
Post by: bobby p on November 29, 2010, 10:55:32 pm
make a short video ,if you can
Title: Re: IPA Flammable Test
Post by: G Griffin on November 29, 2010, 11:01:43 pm
Yeah, but keep it short  ;D.
Title: Re: IPA Flammable Test
Post by: Nathanael Jones on November 29, 2010, 11:03:26 pm
at least it'll keep you warm,...  ;D
Title: Re: IPA Flammable Test
Post by: clearlyclean on November 29, 2010, 11:12:55 pm
why would you water beer down unless you own a night club (indian pale ale)
Title: Re: IPA Flammable Test
Post by: tompoole on November 29, 2010, 11:14:37 pm
You could set fire to a custys house and then see how much
Water you would use to put it out with the wfp! Pmsl. Suggest
It's a poor payer
Title: Re: IPA Flammable Test
Post by: Dave Anderson on November 30, 2010, 06:23:08 am
Why bother....all the answers you want/need are available.

Title: Re: IPA Flammable Test
Post by: Mr Bungalow on November 30, 2010, 06:43:32 am
Why bother....all the answers you want/need are available.



I think the problem is, Dave a lot of people just don't seem to believe that when used in the water fed pole window cleaning industry that it is too watered down to be combustable.

So I am hoping this should help with some people who have any fears of using it whilst working in the cold.

Regards. 
Title: Re: IPA Flammable Test
Post by: Dave Anderson on November 30, 2010, 06:56:05 am
These alcohol's are great in enclosed systems but once into the open air..they evaporate thus making them absolutely no good as a de-icer for actual wfp work and as also mentioned the % rates required for de-icing can be very high...personally I have access to large qty's of methanol (biodiesel production) and ran loads of tests about 3 years ago using various alcohols and as you would expect all results followed what should happen according to physics.

So this is why I say no point trying to re-invent the wheel...the results are all available...

I'm just waiting for someone with the 'confidence' to test their coke-can full of ipa into a 500l tank theory.... ;D

Cheers
Dave.
Title: Re: IPA Flammable Test
Post by: Dave Willis on November 30, 2010, 03:57:08 pm
Bungalow Bill I can't see you having much luck setting fire to buckets of water.  ::)

Nobody in their right mind would use Isopropanol in their systems at any of those dilution rates anyway.
Title: Re: IPA Flammable Test
Post by: Mr Bungalow on November 30, 2010, 06:30:37 pm
Bungalow Bill I can't see you having much luck setting fire to buckets of water.  ::)

Nobody in their right mind would use Isopropanol in their systems at any of those dilution rates anyway.

First of all. who is Bungalow Bill?

I haven't had time to do the test yet, ended up doing some other work instead.

However I do think a test of how flammable IPA is when mixed with water at any dillution rate.  I just thought it might help other people out who may want to try it in their systems, that's all.

Did not expect any wisecracks though???

Regards.
Title: Re: IPA Flammable Test
Post by: Dave Anderson on November 30, 2010, 06:45:38 pm
Really?
Title: Re: IPA Flammable Test
Post by: Steven Shoreditch on November 30, 2010, 07:15:21 pm
Tried fire-breathing?
Title: Re: IPA Flammable Test
Post by: barry mallett on November 30, 2010, 09:50:35 pm
hows joan collins getting on  ;D ;D
Title: Re: IPA Flammable Test
Post by: Alex Allen on December 01, 2010, 01:20:18 pm
Bungalow Bill I can't see you having much luck setting fire to buckets of water.  ::)

Nobody in their right mind would use Isopropanol in their systems at any of those dilution rates anyway.


 ;D its a wind up
no ones daft enough to try and set fire to a bucket of water
thats used for cleaning windows  ;D
Title: Re: IPA Flammable Test
Post by: Mr Bungalow on December 09, 2010, 04:35:57 pm
Hello All,

Tomorrow I am going to do a test with IPA to see how flammable it really is when diluted with water at various rates see below for dilution rates;

75% water to 25% IPA
50% water to 50% IPA
25% water to 75% IPA

I am going to mix each solution in a bucket and then put a lighted match to it each time, to see what happens, and before I get any wisecracks no I am not going to be looking directly above the bucket.  I definately do not want to take the risk of burning my eyebrows off!

Hopefully this will alleviate any worries for some people who go on about using it in their WFP systems.

Regards.

Tested all the above percentages, and guess what not once did it light up in flames.

Regards.
Title: Re: IPA Flammable Test
Post by: Dave Willis on December 09, 2010, 04:43:31 pm
What a surprise.
Title: Re: IPA Flammable Test
Post by: DaveG on December 09, 2010, 04:52:24 pm
So am I safe to smoke now? ;)
Title: Re: IPA Flammable Test
Post by: Dave Anderson on December 09, 2010, 04:55:18 pm
Is this serious? ...or some sort of Darwin Award attempt?

I'm not trying to be rude but this makes it difficult not to really.


Cheers
Dave.
Title: Re: IPA Flammable Test
Post by: Nick Wareham on December 09, 2010, 04:58:09 pm
As I understand it, you'd need so much of it in your tank to prevent freezing it would cost a fortune.

Thats why nobody does it, not because it might be flamable.