Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Clive McDonald on November 29, 2010, 04:08:13 pm
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Okay my transfer hose is frozen solid.It's a full thirty meters of three quarter inch reinforced clear.
Any of you brain boxes know how i can defrost it?
My IBC'S okay, and my vans okay.The transfer hose is now in the shed (instead of lying out where it froze). Best ideas please?
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is it flat or reeled up
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try and reel it up and pour hot water on it then wrap it in a blanket
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Hair dryer.
Or just leave it in your bath overnight to thaw.
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fill bath with hot water and put it in
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::) thats what i did yesterday
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Drinks lots of water/beer/milk and then run up and down peeing on it.
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Did mine this morning
Pour a warm bath, disconect the hose, coil it up then put it in the bath
Takes about 10 mins to thaw out.
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Bubble bath or not?
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I expect you are right.
I hate trying to disconnect in this cold and thirty meters frozen solid will be a pig to get upstairs.
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I expect you are right.
I hate trying to disconnect in this cold and thirty meters frozen solid will be a pig to get upstairs.
Get a downstairs bathroom put in, investment always pays slumps! :-*
No good to you now but have you thought about burying the pipe? (properly)
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I expect you are right.
I hate trying to disconnect in this cold and thirty meters frozen solid will be a pig to get upstairs.
Get a downstairs bathroom put in, investment always pays slumps! :-*
No good to you now but have you thought about burying the pipe? (properly)
nice cheap options here ;D
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gazza i agree. It does always pay.
The transfer hose comes from my shed to fill the van at the front of the house.I have got into the habit of leaving it lying on the ground instead of putting it back in the shed, hence it freezing last friday.
As you know my other business (market stall) sells hats gloves socks etc and at the moment is off the scale.I've been doing that for twenty years and have never known a(pre christmass) period like this.
juggling the two things is never easy, and i worry about losing my wc biz which i've been building for three years.That's why i'm always moaning and trying to reduce the workload.As an example i spend all day sundays unloading a van, buying and then reloading. I always have problems in dec and jan when the market is busy (providing it's cold) and problems with holidays.I think that you people could do more to help, in terms of ideas, it's not as if i haven't given you a few.
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Keep it indoors when you have used it, that's the easy answer really.
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I think that you people could do more to help, in terms of ideas, it's not as if i haven't given you a few.
Okay you asked for it ;D
Dont let it freeze in the first place. The pipe being outdoors doesn't necessarily mean it is going to freeze even in colder weather than we have been having. Just make sure it is entirely emptied of water after transferring your water round when you fill the van.
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Slumpy
Compared to your electric hose reels with dog leg clutches and state of the art van system all these suggestions are simple and blindingly obvious. Don't really know why you need the help from us lesser advanced ones on this?
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This is how i work, i ask for ideas, and i try and think of them.
It's easy to think, what can they teach me, but ideas can come from anywhere.Alex was a case in point, he had some great ideas, dave st ives has some great ideas, but they have blind spots and contradictions too.(as do I)
I mentioned to both of them for instance that a roomba was the greatest thing since sliced bread, we are supposed to be cleaning professionals after all.They all but laughed at me.
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A roomba?
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Mondays (when i'm not seven day like now) is my only day off.My wife liked me to spend it hoovering.I've now got two one for upstairs one for down.
They were invented about ten years ago (so like wfp they are not new) but they have been slow to catch on, and also like wfp they are counter intuitive, so people think- that can't work- just like you can't clean windows with just water.
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slumpbuster are you from ipswich?
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I've got as much of my gear as I can in the garage with a parrafin greenhouse heater burning. It uses about a gallon a week so I leave it on all the time.
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That might do it!
Thanks vince.I've seen a few comments about smell and soot, which is the best one to get if i don't want to look like al jolson?
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I leave my transfer hose outdoors but it;s insulated so need chance of freezing ;D
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funnily enough last night my mrs had a bath and was about to pull the plug and I said leave it, then I duly grabbed my hose and threw it in.
smells nice now and doesn't need defrosted.
she wasn't happy though as the bath is now full of wood chips, dirt, and what ever else it has been through, at least it was until she cleaned it
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That might do it!
Thanks vince.I've seen a few comments about smell and soot, which is the best one to get if i don't want to look like al jolson?
You can't do anything about the smell. They should not soot, usually the flame is up to high if it soots. I got a Parasene 5 heater for my tranny van last week. Everything has still frozen solid, even the van tank.
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Clive,.. I had the same problem. I turned on the sub pump & put the end of the hose in my tank, then boiled a kettle (twice),.. start at the shed end and pour boiling water over the hose. It'll only defrost a very small amount, but once the water is flowing a little, it'll unblock the rest of the ice in a minute or 2.
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To stop your transfer hose from freezing is very simple if you use a pump to transfer your water.
1 Make sure you can disconect either end of the hose when it is not in use.
2 Make sure middle of hose is higher than either end of the hose (this may not be possible with gravity fill systems).
3 after filling van tank disconect either end of transfer hose and make sure any valves are open and gravity will cause any water left in hose to drain out. Your hose can now be left in place with no insulation and no freezing.
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Thanks Nathaneal it's still frozen.The problem with the kettle is it's a full thirty meter length.
i can see that ptwt's method would work but i can't easily disconnect.
Now that i've had my brainwave i'm fairly condident of being able to do it with a radiator.
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Slumps, I have a brilliant method to stop your microbore and pole hose from freezing up during the day......................................................................................................................................
Get your ginger helper to wear the hose all day a bit like a Michelin Man. Get him to spin anti-clockwise when you need more hose and rotate the other way to wind it back up. Hose never touches the snow and will never freeze. When you get home tell him to change and wear the transfer hose to bed. Job's a good 'un.
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why not get it on a reel slumpy... reel out to fill and in when done. you could even make it an electric reel like your van ;)
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Blue Frog
I did have it on a reel once.A wooden one that i used to roll.But now that you've said that, even though you are joking i think you are right.It needs to be set up like our vans- short length from tank to outside of shed- going into reel fixed to side of shed.
It does look untidy and is cumbersome to stow.
Hydrophyl
That's quite good. Ginger left some time ago unfortunately.After i'd paid the little poop holiday money.