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Title: Common sense this week
Post by: TomCrowther on November 28, 2010, 09:49:56 am
What are you larger companies {Lee and Co} doing in the sub zero weather re WFP this coming week? I would appreciate a bit of advice re H & S as I do not want to cause any accidents through slips on ice from water I have left on the ground.
It's -5 here this morning, with the ground temp even lower and the next few days look like the same conditions. Last week I started work later in the day and finished early but depsite this, there was ice forming at every job. I squeegied the water on the ground toward the nearest drain and put plenty of salt down but still some places were a bit icy.
I have £5 mil P & L ins but don't want to find out the hard way I am not covered due to stupidity  :-\
As always, any advice is really appreciated.
Cheers.
Title: Re: Common sense this week
Post by: trevor perry on November 28, 2010, 10:18:03 am
we wont be doing any WFP work in conditions below freezing so will be organising work so internal jobs can be done first thing then get on the WFP when temperatures rise above freezing all WFP work will probably need to stop around 3pm as temperature is likely to fall below freezing after this, we will also see what jobs we can do safely traditionally, we have 2 large pressure washing jobs booked this week these will have to be postponed for obvious reasons.
Title: Re: Common sense this week
Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on November 28, 2010, 10:40:38 am
we wont be doing any WFP work in conditions below freezing so will be organising work so internal jobs can be done first thing then get on the WFP when temperatures rise above freezing all WFP work will probably need to stop around 3pm as temperature is likely to fall below freezing after this, we will also see what jobs we can do safely traditionally, we have 2 large pressure washing jobs booked this week these will have to be postponed for obvious reasons.

What will you do about the water you've left on the floor (before 3pm)?
Title: Re: Common sense this week
Post by: trevor perry on November 28, 2010, 10:48:42 am
we wont be doing any WFP work in conditions below freezing so will be organising work so internal jobs can be done first thing then get on the WFP when temperatures rise above freezing all WFP work will probably need to stop around 3pm as temperature is likely to fall below freezing after this, we will also see what jobs we can do safely traditionally, we have 2 large pressure washing jobs booked this week these will have to be postponed for obvious reasons.

What will you do about the water you've left on the floor (before 3pm)?

 the amount of water left on floor from WFP has usually evaporated away within about half an hour so it wont be a problem, another thing i willbe ding is doing areas of commercial work where the water will only fall onto garden areas and not paths then when temp rises doing the other areas, i know this will slow us down a bit but at least we are still working.
Title: Re: Common sense this week
Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on November 28, 2010, 10:55:05 am
we wont be doing any WFP work in conditions below freezing so will be organising work so internal jobs can be done first thing then get on the WFP when temperatures rise above freezing all WFP work will probably need to stop around 3pm as temperature is likely to fall below freezing after this, we will also see what jobs we can do safely traditionally, we have 2 large pressure washing jobs booked this week these will have to be postponed for obvious reasons.

What will you do about the water you've left on the floor (before 3pm)?

 the amount of water left on floor from WFP has usually evaporated away within about half an hour so it wont be a problem, another thing i willbe ding is doing areas of commercial work where the water will only fall onto garden areas and not paths then when temp rises doing the other areas, i know this will slow us down a bit but at least we are still working.

Which country do you operate in Trevor?
Title: Re: Common sense this week
Post by: chopsie on November 28, 2010, 11:02:02 am
I was thinking the same thing, Water will be still on the ground whether you wfp at 10 am or 3pm, It will be not evaporating in this weather, even if its just a thin film left by the end of the day, It will still freeze!!
Title: Re: Common sense this week
Post by: trevor perry on November 28, 2010, 11:31:59 am
we wont be doing any WFP work in conditions below freezing so will be organising work so internal jobs can be done first thing then get on the WFP when temperatures rise above freezing all WFP work will probably need to stop around 3pm as temperature is likely to fall below freezing after this, we will also see what jobs we can do safely traditionally, we have 2 large pressure washing jobs booked this week these will have to be postponed for obvious reasons.

What will you do about the water you've left on the floor (before 3pm)?

 the amount of water left on floor from WFP has usually evaporated away within about half an hour so it wont be a problem, another thing i willbe ding is doing areas of commercial work where the water will only fall onto garden areas and not paths then when temp rises doing the other areas, i know this will slow us down a bit but at least we are still working.

Which country do you operate in Trevor?
sunny lancashire, and unless its raining  ;D the water used by WFP has always gone in about half an hour it might not be called evaporation it may have just drained into surface but it has dissapeared go outside and do one of your own windows the water on window may still be there after half an hour but on the ground it will have gone
Title: Re: Common sense this week
Post by: clearlyclean on November 28, 2010, 02:00:18 pm
How can they prove its you innocent till proven guilty and in this weather common sense to take care.
Title: Re: Common sense this week
Post by: rg1 on November 28, 2010, 03:31:14 pm
How can they prove its you innocent till proven guilty and in this weather common sense to take care.

Because there will be water laying under the windows??
Title: Re: Common sense this week
Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on November 28, 2010, 04:12:00 pm
we wont be doing any WFP work in conditions below freezing so will be organising work so internal jobs can be done first thing then get on the WFP when temperatures rise above freezing all WFP work will probably need to stop around 3pm as temperature is likely to fall below freezing after this, we will also see what jobs we can do safely traditionally, we have 2 large pressure washing jobs booked this week these will have to be postponed for obvious reasons.

What will you do about the water you've left on the floor (before 3pm)?

 the amount of water left on floor from WFP has usually evaporated away within about half an hour so it wont be a problem, another thing i willbe ding is doing areas of commercial work where the water will only fall onto garden areas and not paths then when temp rises doing the other areas, i know this will slow us down a bit but at least we are still working.

Which country do you operate in Trevor?
sunny lancashire, and unless its raining  ;D the water used by WFP has always gone in about half an hour it might not be called evaporation it may have just drained into surface but it has dissapeared go outside and do one of your own windows the water on window may still be there after half an hour but on the ground it will have gone

 ;D ;D ;D

That's got to be the best one this year Trev! ;D ;D LMFAO
Title: Re: Common sense this week
Post by: ashbash on November 28, 2010, 05:14:41 pm
thats y traditional is sooo much better :P :P  please only banter no bites required...
Title: Re: Common sense this week
Post by: Jonathan Spencer on November 28, 2010, 06:48:57 pm
thats y traditional is sooo much better :P :P  please only banter no bites required...


Silly question but does the water freeze on the glass when cleaning trad?
Title: Re: Common sense this week
Post by: zimzam on November 28, 2010, 07:01:47 pm
yeah if its cold enough.did for me on thurs.
Title: Re: Common sense this week
Post by: Sunshine/Cleaning on November 28, 2010, 07:14:10 pm
It doesn't look like it will get warmer than -2c this week so any water on the ground will freeze instantly. Esp any north facing windows, these will be colder.

Try one of your own windows and you will see.  ::)
Title: Re: Common sense this week
Post by: TomCrowther on November 28, 2010, 07:16:51 pm
Cheers for the advice guys.
Title: Re: Common sense this week
Post by: Sir Squeaky on November 28, 2010, 07:27:27 pm
It doesn't look like it will get warmer than -2c this week so any water on the ground will freeze instantly. Esp any north facing windows, these will be colder.

Try one of your own windows and you will see.  ::)
I've read a few places that it'll be 0 or better all week, so I don't know where that was from. ???
I don't think you've got anything to worry about this week.
Title: Re: Common sense this week
Post by: prestige cleaners on November 28, 2010, 07:31:42 pm
evaporating? lol

try instantly freezing!
Title: Re: Common sense this week
Post by: Sir Squeaky on November 28, 2010, 07:37:28 pm
What's the worry?  ???

Title: Re: Common sense this week
Post by: formb on November 28, 2010, 09:23:45 pm
Not really sure what the ground looks like where you guys are, but we have a foot of snow so there is ice everywhere. If you are squeegeeing doorstep etc and salting you are leaving it safer than when you arrived no matter how much water you chuck around.
Title: Re: Common sense this week
Post by: mci services on November 28, 2010, 09:26:55 pm
I tend to find the water has turned to ice long before it hits the floor anyway, and as its landing on snow ice anyway it makes no odds.
Title: Re: Common sense this week
Post by: Sunshine/Cleaning on November 28, 2010, 09:32:38 pm
What's the worry?  ???



This is my area, little different Rog.

http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/today.asp?zipcode=de45%201fr
Title: Re: Common sense this week
Post by: Jeff Brimble on November 28, 2010, 09:36:44 pm
Gawd elp you  ::) ::) ::)
 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
an so say all of us !
Title: Re: Common sense this week
Post by: formb on November 28, 2010, 09:40:52 pm
Meh, what do they know anyway.  ::)
Title: Re: Common sense this week
Post by: Sir Squeaky on November 28, 2010, 10:36:54 pm
What's the worry?  ???



This is my area, little different Rog.

http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/today.asp?zipcode=de45%201fr
I can't get that page to load, but metcheck told me my area would be about about -52 so I wouldn't pay too much attention to it!
Always found the Beeb the most accurate.
Title: Re: Common sense this week
Post by: darren clarke on November 28, 2010, 10:47:22 pm
i hope the beeb are right, says sunny all week where i am
Title: Re: Common sense this week
Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on November 28, 2010, 10:51:50 pm
i hope the beeb are right, says sunny all week where i am

I hope the beeb are wrong, snow all week for me!! ;D :'( :'(
Title: Re: Common sense this week
Post by: dazmond on November 28, 2010, 10:58:13 pm
simply trad ground floors and avoid wfpoling windows directly above a door unless you sweep water away and salt it.you ll find you hardly leave any water on the ground if just poling tops anyway.

im lucky as a lot of top windows on my round this coming week are on one estate where there is a sloping roof below them stopping the water hitting the ground.

the only problem i can see is if the water starts freezing on the glass or in the jets of the brush.if it does then ill probably go home and call it a day.



dazmond