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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: easy clean on November 27, 2010, 11:26:18 pm

Title: same old same old!!!!!!
Post by: easy clean on November 27, 2010, 11:26:18 pm
Is it me or do so many posts end up saying about pro fitted systems? Its driving me mad!!!!!! Who cares if its a pro or a diy, at the end of the day it foes the same job but for nowhere near the price, its a tank that holds water with a pump that pumps it down a hose! Oh yeah but now we talk about all this crash testing!!!!!! What people forget is that these vans we drive around in have payloads for excactly that, they too have been tested so what's the difference between it bolting through the floor or being strapped down with ratchet straps? Ask yourself what do they use to secure loads on lorries? They don't bolt it down!!!!!!
Title: Re: same old same old!!!!!!
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on November 27, 2010, 11:45:34 pm
the payload of a van tells you how much weight it can carry!
How that weight is secured into that van is a totally different matter.
If its not secured correctly and your in a serious accident you are in BIG trouble!!
same old same old.But its the law im afraid.
Title: Re: same old same old!!!!!!
Post by: Nick Wareham on November 28, 2010, 12:50:43 am
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Yeah and vans have load securing lugs or reinfleced bolt holes to secure loads, they're there to be used! What law? You don't have to secure anything in a van of you don't want to.

Yes you do, there is a whole section in the road traffic act about it.

How do I know?  Because I was once pulled over by a copper when I was transporting some equipment in an old van.  He had a right go at me and was waving this big document (which was the road traffic act) around showing me the various regulations I was breaking.  (He seemed to know it backwards, so be warned!)

Google "road traffic act securing loads" or something similar, you'll see there is a whole section and a code of practice too.  The reason they take it so seriously is because you can become a real danger on the road if you get it wrong.

Thankfully he let me off with a warning and a stern talking to.
Title: Re: same old same old!!!!!!
Post by: Frankybadboy on November 28, 2010, 07:48:28 am
Yeah and vans have load securing lugs or reinfleced bolt holes to secure loads, they're there to be used! What law? You don't have to secure anything in a van of you don't want to.
what  aclassic comment from a idiot who dont know what hes on about.
Title: Re: same old same old!!!!!!
Post by: elite mike on November 28, 2010, 07:53:32 am
Yeah and vans have load securing lugs or reinfleced bolt holes to secure loads, they're there to be used! What law? You don't have to secure anything in a van of you don't want to.
what  aclassic comment from a idiot who dont know what hes on about.

frank did you buy martins trolly ;)
Title: Re: same old same old!!!!!!
Post by: Matthew Bateman on November 28, 2010, 08:07:49 am
Yeah and vans have load securing lugs or reinfleced bolt holes to secure loads, they're there to be used! What law? You don't have to secure anything in a van of you don't want to.
what  aclassic comment from a idiot who dont know what hes on about.


;D ;D
Title: Re: same old same old!!!!!!
Post by: Frankybadboy on November 28, 2010, 08:12:07 am
Yeah and vans have load securing lugs or reinfleced bolt holes to secure loads, they're there to be used! What law? You don't have to secure anything in a van of you don't want to.
what  aclassic comment from a idiot who dont know what hes on about.

frank did you buy martins trolly ;)
yes mike i did,you can have it for £500 ;D ;D ;D :P :P
Title: Re: same old same old!!!!!!
Post by: LWC on November 28, 2010, 08:26:21 am
Is the trolley secured?
Title: Re: same old same old!!!!!!
Post by: elite mike on November 28, 2010, 08:27:50 am
Yeah and vans have load securing lugs or reinfleced bolt holes to secure loads, they're there to be used! What law? You don't have to secure anything in a van of you don't want to.
what  aclassic comment from a idiot who dont know what hes on about.

frank did you buy martins trolly ;)
yes mike i did,you can have it for £500 ;D ;D ;D :P :P

jammy bugger, would of been a bargain at my price ;D

how you getting on with it
Title: Re: same old same old!!!!!!
Post by: tompoole on November 28, 2010, 08:54:00 am
Nothing wrong with using straps or ratchets so long as they
Have correct rating AND they are fixed to a secure point.
NOT just bolted throuh the floor.
I use straps so I can remove the tank easily, but the anchor
Points are welded to the chassis
Title: Re: same old same old!!!!!!
Post by: clearlyclean on November 28, 2010, 09:06:34 am
there should be anchor points in back of van that are welded and reinforced to chassis and you need to use them,If just bolt through thin metal if you have to stop suddenly your tank will rip the bolts out thats why they check seat belts at the MOT,But its up to you how you secure your load whether straps or bolted down
Title: Re: same old same old!!!!!!
Post by: Frankybadboy on November 28, 2010, 11:50:10 am
Yeah and vans have load securing lugs or reinfleced bolt holes to secure loads, they're there to be used! What law? You don't have to secure anything in a van of you don't want to.
what  aclassic comment from a idiot who dont know what hes on about.

frank did you buy martins trolly ;)
yes mike i did,you can have it for £500 ;D ;D ;D :P :P

jammy bugger, would of been a bargain at my price ;D

how you getting on with it
just waiting for a few parts to arrive before we can use it. ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: same old same old!!!!!!
Post by: LWC on November 28, 2010, 12:00:22 pm
Are your poles bolted down to? And bucket
Title: Re: same old same old!!!!!!
Post by: clearlyclean on November 28, 2010, 01:34:02 pm
tried bolting my coffee cup down as well :P
Title: Re: same old same old!!!!!!
Post by: chopsie on November 28, 2010, 01:41:06 pm
Who you calling an idiot you muggy little çúnt? Find me some legislation that states it then poo for brains
;D ;D ;D Sounds like the mood I am in after finding the washing machine has just flooded the kitchen because the outlet pipe has frozen  >:( Take my advise and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGWEI390Pe8
Title: Re: same old same old!!!!!!
Post by: Frankybadboy on November 28, 2010, 04:23:55 pm
Who you calling an idiot you muggy little çúnt? Find me some legislation that states it then poo for brains

i know the wording to sucuring loads mate you go find it.i done all my training lgv c+e and cpc+international.

go find out the hard way,then when you are in court dont come running back to us.

i wasnt in the transport industry for 18years for nothing, :P

now run along  ;) ;D
Title: Re: same old same old!!!!!!
Post by: geefree on November 28, 2010, 05:06:48 pm
http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roads/vehicles/vssafety/safetyloadsonvehicles.pdf

its a long read , but its the law,...

common sense would tell most people to secure any load ,

try hitting a wall at 40 mph, the van stops dead, the full tank will come through a bulkhead like it is cardboard,

and death will be instant.

dont need any law to tell me that.
Title: Re: same old same old!!!!!!
Post by: bad trippy on November 28, 2010, 05:15:49 pm
Who you calling an idiot you muggy little çúnt? Find me some legislation that states it then poo for brains
Come and have a go at this Bristol aggro  ;D
Now call me dumb or a bit behind the times, but what does muggy mean? I kinda liked it what ever it ment  :)
Title: Re: same old same old!!!!!!
Post by: Frankybadboy on November 28, 2010, 05:39:28 pm
Who you calling an idiot you muggy little çúnt? Find me some legislation that states it then poo for brains
Come and have a go at this Bristol aggro  ;D
Now call me dumb or a bit behind the times, but what does muggy mean? I kinda liked it what ever it ment  :)
allright me old mucker
 ;)
Title: Re: same old same old!!!!!!
Post by: bad trippy on November 28, 2010, 05:41:50 pm
Who you calling an idiot you muggy little çúnt? Find me some legislation that states it then poo for brains
Come and have a go at this Bristol aggro  ;D
Now call me dumb or a bit behind the times, but what does muggy mean? I kinda liked it what ever it ment  :)
allright me old mucker
 ;)
Not bad mate, you working tomorrow bud?
Title: Re: same old same old!!!!!!
Post by: Frankybadboy on November 28, 2010, 07:26:32 pm
All set for tomorrow,hopefully we get some done. ;)