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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: d s windowcleaning on November 26, 2010, 08:15:07 pm

Title: is it
Post by: d s windowcleaning on November 26, 2010, 08:15:07 pm
is it illegal to carry gas bottles for heating water ?
Title: Re: is it
Post by: Lee GLS on November 26, 2010, 08:18:01 pm
only if its connected and turned on whilst driving i think
Title: Re: is it
Post by: clearlyclean on November 26, 2010, 08:25:54 pm
if it was illegal how people get them home from the store to put them in their calor gas fires  ??? lot of people breaking the law
Title: Re: is it
Post by: ant french on November 26, 2010, 08:28:52 pm
yeh what about fishermen aswell when they go night fishing
Title: Re: is it
Post by: Matthew Bateman on November 26, 2010, 08:33:01 pm
if it was illegal how people get them home from the store to put them in their calor gas fires  ??? lot of people breaking the law

Its quite common for regulations to be different for commercial purposes compared for domestic reasons. This is one area where that is the case. I suggest you speak to the relevant authorities or those qualified to pass comment before making generalised suggestions or statements.



Title: Re: is it
Post by: Llaaww on November 26, 2010, 08:37:17 pm
Caravaners often carry gas, you'd probably find a straight forward answer on one of their forums. They have probably been chattin about it for yrs.
Title: Re: is it
Post by: clearlyclean on November 26, 2010, 08:38:16 pm
http://www.bcga.co.uk/preview/publications/L12005.pdf
have a read
Title: Re: is it
Post by: Craig Trevain on November 26, 2010, 08:38:31 pm
We looked into them for our vans, but as I employ so many guys and have to conform to H&S regs, we are unable to put these types of ware heaters in any of our vans, (Told by our H&S and insurance company) we can't even put space heaters in our ware house.
Title: Re: is it
Post by: Craig Trevain on November 26, 2010, 08:40:29 pm
Not sure where the other ware* came from!! caravans are not commercial.
Title: Re: is it
Post by: d s windowcleaning on November 27, 2010, 09:15:00 am
the reason ive asked this question is that ive got a e-mail from ionic about going hot and it says its illegal
Title: Re: is it
Post by: Matthew Bateman on November 27, 2010, 09:27:16 am
That's dreadful. Of course it's not illegal. It is if you don't comply to the regulations that apply to carry these materials but a sweeping statement like that is dreadful. I'd say that's illegal to do what they've done. Underhand selling? False claims?

Bloody cowboys
Title: Re: is it
Post by: Rob_Mac on November 27, 2010, 10:45:48 am
I have some understanding of this.

If you carry gas and any set up then it has to have a installers check done on it and insurers expect you to send them a copy of this. If you tell them your insurance may double - mine did!!! to 1400 per year.

If you don't tell them and then have an 'issue' you will be very much in the brown stuff because they wont pay out!!!

Good luck with your hot systems!!

Rob ;D
Title: Re: is it
Post by: darren clarke on November 27, 2010, 10:47:33 am
as long as it is secure and not turned on,  should be disconnected  u will be ok
Title: Re: is it
Post by: Rob_Mac on November 27, 2010, 10:50:18 am
But he isn't doing that. He wants to have the gas bottle to heat water whilst working, for instant hot water. Is that correct??

If so it needs to be certificated.

Rob ;D
Title: Re: is it
Post by: Matthew Bateman on November 27, 2010, 11:04:07 am
What he means is disconnected and turned off whilst driving.
Title: Re: is it
Post by: Rob_Mac on November 27, 2010, 11:07:26 am
Dave

What is the post relating to??

Rob ;D
Title: Re: is it
Post by: d s windowcleaning on November 27, 2010, 11:18:21 am
Dave

What is the post relating to??

Rob ;D
hi rob
                      this post is to do with a e-mail i got from ionics yesterday about there hot water thermopure system and they give a few reasons on how it can benifit you they then put SAFE-NO ILLEGAL GAS BOTTLES TO CARRY , i will forward a copy of the e-mail to you rob then you will see what i mean .
Title: Re: is it
Post by: d s windowcleaning on November 27, 2010, 11:23:23 am
e-mail sent rob
Title: Re: is it
Post by: Rob_Mac on November 27, 2010, 11:43:19 am
Safe - no illegal gas bottles to carry!

Interesting & vague line that one.

They are certainly refering to DIY there and the thread is definately about that. Sorry Matt!!

They are illegal if connected and used for heating water on the go, if the system is not certificated and your insurer does not know about it.

So I guess they can get away with the statement.

Rob ;D
Title: Re: is it
Post by: trevor perry on November 27, 2010, 05:23:01 pm
Dave

What is the post relating to??

Rob ;D
hi rob
                      this post is to do with a e-mail i got from ionics yesterday about there hot water thermopure system and they give a few reasons on how it can benifit you they then put SAFE-NO ILLEGAL GAS BOTTLES TO CARRY , i will forward a copy of the e-mail to you rob then you will see what i mean .
the thermopure doesnt use gas it runs on diesel i think
Title: Re: is it
Post by: d s windowcleaning on November 28, 2010, 12:20:50 am
Dave

What is the post relating to??

Rob ;D
hi rob
                      this post is to do with a e-mail i got from ionics yesterday about there hot water thermopure system and they give a few reasons on how it can benifit you they then put SAFE-NO ILLEGAL GAS BOTTLES TO CARRY , i will forward a copy of the e-mail to you rob then you will see what i mean .
the thermopure doesnt use gas it runs on diesel i think
we not talking thermo pure trevor , what im saying is that i recived a e-mail from ionic with regards there thermopure /hotbox system (yes they run on diesal )BUT THE E-MAIL says SAFE-NO ILLEGAL GAS BOTTLES TO CARRY .
WHAT do they mean by this ?
im not hot and i wont even consider going hot but i do carry gas BUT I DONT NO WHAT A ILLEGAL GAS BOTTLE IS do you ?