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Title: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: Mr Bungalow on November 26, 2010, 07:45:22 am
Hello All,

I forgot to mention this Monday just gone.

I was just arriving at a customers at around 9am, parked up the van where I normally park it, and as always take my WFP around to the back of the property.  When all of a sudden out of nowhere one of the dogs (german shepherd) to be exact comes lunging out of the dog flap and went for my face, luckily for me it only bit into my arm as I had put it up to protect myself.  Then and only then did I here the customer shout at it to come in did it release me.

The customer after it happened could not be more apologetic, as I went on to explain that I had sent her a text the night before to make sure the dogs where locked inside!  She went on to say that her husband had not got the text until later on the day and consequently forgot to tell her to lock the dog flap so the dogs could not get out.

The morning ended up with me being made a cup of coffee and her apologising profusely offering to buy me a new coat for my troubles, which I said no to and don't worry about it, the dog was really only doing its job and protecting the property.

Anyway, it ended with me finishing the window cleaning on the property and leaving with a bite mark on my arm!  I left thinking lucky for me it was cold and I had my coat on at the time.

The end.
Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: Lee GLS on November 26, 2010, 07:49:57 am
could have been worse mate, glad you wernt hurt. ive been bitten 3 times by dogs, once on the butt, i wont do windows now if there are dogs out. lost my confidence
Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: Nathanael Jones on November 26, 2010, 08:21:04 am
I've never been bitten, and personally I think its all down to attitude. I'm willing to bite back & the dog picks up on the fact that any attack on me will not be worth it. Lets face it, they are smaller & dumber (usually!),.. if one did attack for real you might get some nasty cuts but you know you'd eventually come out the winner. If they growl, I growl back and make a lunge for them,.. show them who is boss straight away! Once they back off, turn your back to them (Not for too long) to let them know they you do not consider them a threat.
Dogs are never naturally aggressive, its only ever down to the owners & training IMO. Trained guard dogs are the only ones I'd be cautious of as they tend to work in packs!

Don't get me wrong though, I love dogs. Its just dealing with aggressive ones where I take the hardline attitude.
Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: Jack Wallace on November 26, 2010, 08:24:46 am
I have no sympathy for these type of people, the only reason they invite you in and make you a cup of tea is they are worried you may sue them. They are concerned for themselves not you.
If a dog is likely to hurt someone it should never be allowed to come into contact with people. They obviously knew it was a danger yet were so disinterested they ignore a text warning them someone will be on their property.
If it was me, I would report them immediately.

It could be a child next!!!
Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: TomCrowther on November 26, 2010, 08:44:34 am
I always knock on the door or ring the bell if Iknow they have a dog bigger than a hamster. A few of my customers have huge dogs and most are OK but one of them just eyes me through the window. Gives me no doubt what he would do if he could get at me  :(
Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: Jackal on November 26, 2010, 08:44:57 am
I have no sympathy for these type of people, the only reason they invite you in and make you a cup of tea is they are worried you may sue them. They are concerned for themselves not you.
If a dog is likely to hurt someone it should never be allowed to come into contact with people. They obviously knew it was a danger yet were so disinterested they ignore a text warning them someone will be on their property.
If it was me, I would report them immediately.

It could be a child next!!!


dont get me wrong i love dogs but hes right realy a kid delivering a leaflet or something,unless they have a big sign on the gate warning the danger
Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: luther1 on November 26, 2010, 08:49:38 am
I have 13 stiches in my cheek from a Golden Retreaver. Customer kindly took me to hospital though. Ruined my modelling career.
Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: mark dew on November 26, 2010, 09:14:54 am
It does my head in when owners big up their dogs by making a huge fuss at keeping them away from me as i turn up. All they are doing is emphasizing the (non) fact that i am a threat.
I've been bitten twice becaue of this.
Much better to let the dog come and sniff around. It's understandable that they see us as a threat carrying ladders or poles, but once they've had a good sniff and realise we ain't going to attack them, they're usually good as gold afterwards.
Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: clearlyclean on November 26, 2010, 09:38:47 am
If a dog bites someone it should be put down,my mates dog growled at his gran kids twice and he got that dog put down.
Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: LWC on November 26, 2010, 09:40:33 am
I went to a new house once, big house, had a look round priced etc, fine do it. So opened gates, pulled hoses round getting on fine. Get to the front then women comes running out, "youve let the dogs out"

Look down the garden and theres a alsation and a rot weiler...and a big one at that. She calls them over so i help calling them and they came bounding over. She turned and walked away, the dogs both looked at me and growled, i just ignored and turned my back hoping as Nathanal said they would not feel threatned...however, the rot weiler went for my leg, the owner was no where to be seen!

Some weird reason the alsation was biting the rottie, anyway i pushed him off and he bit my arm and shook it, then my other arm, fortuantly never broke skin but ripped my jumper.

The owner just happened to call them and they went but had no idea id been attacked, i told her after and she was not in slightest bothered, got a little "oh sorry"

Nat i appreciate what your saying but im strong, stronger than most but that rot was something else, once it had my arm i could hardly do anything.
Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: TomCrowther on November 26, 2010, 09:48:08 am
Spot on. I am big enough, 6'4" and 16 stone but you only need to see footage of a medium sized dog attacking either another dog or a person to realise you are going to get seriously chomped. They move faster than you can see!
Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: woody1 on November 26, 2010, 11:07:51 am
i got bit by a whippet a while ago it caught me on the wrist it swelled a good un the owner said he is protecting the house i called police and the dog was put down as it had bitten a little boy a few weeks earlier i think its the owners fault he aint my custy now though all dogs bite it just when will they do it as a puppy or adult its you teach them not to
Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: Jack Wallace on November 26, 2010, 11:18:47 am
I've never been bitten, and personally I think its all down to attitude. I'm willing to bite back & the dog picks up on the fact that any attack on me will not be worth it. Lets face it, they are smaller & dumber (usually!),.. if one did attack for real you might get some nasty cuts but you know you'd eventually come out the winner. If they growl, I growl back and make a lunge for them,.. show them who is boss straight away! Once they back off, turn your back to them (Not for too long) to let them know they you do not consider them a threat.
Dogs are never naturally aggressive, its only ever down to the owners & training IMO. Trained guard dogs are the only ones I'd be cautious of as they tend to work in packs!

Don't get me wrong though, I love dogs. Its just dealing with aggressive ones where I take the hardline attitude.
Nathanael I dont often disagree with anything you write but on this occasion you are so far wide of the mark its untrue.

If a dog decided to have a go at you you would get a lot more than "a few cuts".
When i was in the army we had a dog demo, I was chosen to wear the suit and get chased down, let me tell you even though I was fully protected I was crapping myself. a dog is so fast you could not stop it if you tried.
unchecked it will rip you apart.
IMO anyone with a dog that may be a threat should be made to have them put down. too many children get maimed or killed every year to justify anyone keeping them.
Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: Crystal-clear on November 26, 2010, 12:49:51 pm
I've never been bitten, and personally I think its all down to attitude. I'm willing to bite back & the dog picks up on the fact that any attack on me will not be worth it. Lets face it, they are smaller & dumber (usually!),.. if one did attack for real you might get some nasty cuts but you know you'd eventually come out the winner. If they growl, I growl back and make a lunge for them,.. show them who is boss straight away! Once they back off, turn your back to them (Not for too long) to let them know they you do not consider them a threat.
Dogs are never naturally aggressive, its only ever down to the owners & training IMO. Trained guard dogs are the only ones I'd be cautious of as they tend to work in packs!

Don't get me wrong though, I love dogs. Its just dealing with aggressive ones where I take the hardline attitude.


I love this you sound like Bronson he killed a dog with his bare hands Rawwwww!!
Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: prestige cleaners on November 26, 2010, 02:47:34 pm
thats scary! glad your ok, except for your pants of course, those big german shepards are well scary even their bark is enough of warning.
Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: elite mike on November 26, 2010, 03:02:12 pm
if i ever get trouble with dogs , the custy is history
Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: dai on November 26, 2010, 03:18:02 pm
I've never been bitten, and personally I think its all down to attitude. I'm willing to bite back & the dog picks up on the fact that any attack on me will not be worth it. Lets face it, they are smaller & dumber (usually!),.. if one did attack for real you might get some nasty cuts but you know you'd eventually come out the winner. If they growl, I growl back and make a lunge for them,.. show them who is boss straight away! Once they back off, turn your back to them (Not for too long) to let them know they you do not consider them a threat.
Dogs are never naturally aggressive, its only ever down to the owners & training IMO. Trained guard dogs are the only ones I'd be cautious of as they tend to work in packs!

Don't get me wrong though, I love dogs. Its just dealing with aggressive ones where I take the hardline attitude.


I love this you sound like Bronson he killed a dog with his bare hands Rawwwww!!

I killed one too, a pit bull cross that attacked my grand daughter. As he went for her I went for him, luckily I got him by the throat, and I sure as hell wasn't going to let go while he was still moving.
My granddaughter was so lucky, the dogs top jaw got her across the top of the nose, the bottom jaw clamped on her mouth pushing out a couple of teeth.
I say she was lucky because today 20 years later, she only has one small scar.
My daughter got bit clean through the thumb when she was trying to prise open the dogs mouth. You become enraged in these situations, and I was determined that dog would die.
It made the front page of many papers at the time.
 "Grandad strangles pit bull terrier"
Understandable I suppose, I have had no time for dogs ever since, and now regard them as machines for turning good protein into excrement.

Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: bobby p on November 26, 2010, 03:48:02 pm
a full size poodle nipped my arm the other week. i was in the owners house,doing the insides

 i have a spray bottle fixed to my belt for wetting my washer and i have found that a good jet of soapy water between the eyes  is a good leveller of an aggresive dog.
next time i see that poodle i will be giving it a shot in the face (out of the owners sight )
Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: Stewart01 on November 26, 2010, 03:58:32 pm
I was out leafleting and had to shove my finger ends through a letter box with the stiff bristles inside, without warning something grabbed my hand the i felt a searing pain up my arm, i tried to pull my hand out but without a bark or growl a jack russell had latched onto my middle finger and was trying to do some crocodile type death roll with it, i knocked on the door but nobody was home and with the letter box being more than half way up the door the dog was litterally hanging off my finger, i could feel its teeth scraping on the bone, in the end i had no choice but to rip my hand out, anyway after calmly walking back to the van with blood pumping everywere i had to shove the insides of my finger back in with a biro lid. one visit to casualty and a tetanus and iodine hand bath later the hole has almost healed! Tis was around 8 weeks ago. ;D i have to say i am a massive dog lover so never reported it!!!
Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: Scrimble on November 26, 2010, 04:35:34 pm
If a dog bit me i would be straight onto the old bill and i would have it put down,

i hate dogs there disgusting creatures all they do is bark and poop and p everywhere and there owners treat them like children and not animals which they are.

there is no excuse for that dog biting you, it needs to be put down what if a small child wandered round the back of that house and the dog bit the childs face?

the animal needs to be f***ing shot!
Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: scud on November 26, 2010, 05:05:09 pm
If a dog bit me i would be straight onto the old bill and i would have it put down,

i hate dogs there disgusting creatures all they do is bark and poop and p everywhere and there owners treat them like children and not animals which they are.

there is no excuse for that dog biting you, it needs to be put down what if a small child wandered round the back of that house and the dog bit the childs face?

the animal needs to be f***ing shot!

  I love a good generalisation.

  Dogs are terratorial animals and you are on their terratory, most dogs are non aggressive and placid when in neutral surroundings, but will protect their terratory and pack from intruders, ie the window cleaner.
Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: prestige cleaners on November 26, 2010, 05:06:18 pm
I was out leafleting and had to shove my finger ends through a letter box with the stiff bristles inside, without warning something grabbed my hand the i felt a searing pain up my arm, i tried to pull my hand out but without a bark or growl a jack russell had latched onto my middle finger and was trying to do some crocodile type death roll with it, i knocked on the door but nobody was home and with the letter box being more than half way up the door the dog was litterally hanging off my finger, i could feel its teeth scraping on the bone, in the end i had no choice but to rip my hand out, anyway after calmly walking back to the van with blood pumping everywere i had to shove the insides of my finger back in with a biro lid. one visit to casualty and a tetanus and iodine hand bath later the hole has almost healed! Tis was around 8 weeks ago. ;D i have to say i am a massive dog lover so never reported it!!!


that is well nasty, exactly the same thing happened to someone i know, he was canvassing for his driving school, (gone bust now) couldnt help but laugh, hell of a nasty gash in his hand.

another friend got chased after a night out and had one of his fingers bitten off!
Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on November 26, 2010, 05:09:08 pm
I have 13 stiches in my cheek from a Golden Retreaver. Customer kindly took me to hospital though. Ruined my modelling career.
wot in the blind birds times m8 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: Ryan @ Transparent, Carlisle on November 26, 2010, 07:18:07 pm
my dogs dont bite, well they havent so far.

BUT, if ANY unathorised person came into MY!!! back garden, weather they burglars RSPCA or police, then i  hope they get bitten.

MY back garden is the dogs territory!!



Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: Matthew Bateman on November 26, 2010, 07:34:52 pm
I have no sympathy for these type of people, the only reason they invite you in and make you a cup of tea is they are worried you may sue them. They are concerned for themselves not you.
If a dog is likely to hurt someone it should never be allowed to come into contact with people. They obviously knew it was a danger yet were so disinterested they ignore a text warning them someone will be on their property.
If it was me, I would report them immediately.

It could be a child next!!!


I dont wish to try to antagonise your feelings about whats happened Mr Bungalow but this is how I see it too. There actions were selfish IMO.
Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: david watts on November 26, 2010, 07:46:08 pm
has this been put up today or is it rehashed from sometime ago;
just i get a feeling of deja vu that ive read this befor
you should know who has dogs and look out for them when on there property
or make it known your about simples
Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: prestige cleaners on November 26, 2010, 08:36:08 pm
has this been put up today or is it rehashed from sometime ago;
just i get a feeling of deja vu that ive read this befor
you should know who has dogs and look out for them when on there property
or make it known your about simples

you are a genius david  ::)
Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: david watts on November 26, 2010, 09:11:12 pm
has this been put up today or is it rehashed from sometime ago;
just i get a feeling of deja vu that ive read this befor
you should know who has dogs and look out for them when on there property
or make it known your about simples

you are a genius david  ::)
why thank you :-*
Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: woody1 on November 26, 2010, 09:13:00 pm
my dogs dont bite, well they havent so far.

BUT, if ANY unathorised person came into MY!!! back garden, weather they burglars RSPCA or police, then i hope they get bitten.

MY back garden is the dogs territory!!





well i tell you what ryan if your dog bit me or my family i would put you down with a comment like that mate its chavs like you that cant control your dog that ruins little kids faces with scars mate you are a idiot arnt you next your tell me its your garden they should not be there grow up mate i hope the dog bites you >:(
Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: david watts on November 26, 2010, 09:18:48 pm
think of the kids why dont you think of the kids; why do we allways get crap like that
when it comes to a post about some idiot who dosent take care round dogs;
take a chill pill this is deffo regurgitated crap
Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: prestige cleaners on November 26, 2010, 09:40:57 pm
think of the kids why dont you think of the kids; why do we allways get crap like that
when it comes to a post about some idiot who dosent take care round dogs;
take a chill pill this is deffo regurgitated crap

what an idiot!
Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: G Griffin on November 26, 2010, 09:49:48 pm
I`m intrigued about the dog flap for a German Shepherd  :o.
How much door would be left?
Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: Ryan @ Transparent, Carlisle on November 27, 2010, 07:19:47 pm
my dogs dont bite, well they havent so far.

BUT, if ANY unathorised person came into MY!!! back garden, weather they burglars RSPCA or police, then i hope they get bitten.

MY back garden is the dogs territory!!


well i tell you what ryan if your dog bit me or my family i would put you down with a comment like that mate its chavs like you that cant control your dog that ruins little kids faces with scars mate you are a idiot arnt you next your tell me its your garden they should not be there grow up mate i hope the dog bites you >:(

chavs? wrong person pal..... i can look after my dogs thank you, and i have proper control of them.

so why would my dogs bite YOU or YOUR KIDS? why would you be in my back garden?
Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: woody1 on November 27, 2010, 08:27:36 pm
kids climb fences mate so if they did you think its right for your dog to bite them is it.

i had a staffy once never showed any agresion but i would not trust it end off
Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: richard jagger on November 27, 2010, 10:47:46 pm
I have been biten twice once canvasing also the letter box I called the owner and told her should couid loose her dog.The other was a quote and I turned my back as the owner reassured it woul dnot bit he was as shocked as I was but I punched it so hard. I thing the plod would have put me down.I spent two years in the forces as a dog handler and to all the big mouth guys with a dog.Any dog that attackes with out been ordered is a badly or non trained dog and in that situation should be put down.The owner would be lucky they are not put down for letting there dogs down by not trainig them.
Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: Ian W on November 28, 2010, 10:55:48 am
I am now a dog owner(jack russell). Never had a dog before, but was offered him by a customer who couldn't look after him.

When I first got him he had been allowed to do anything he wanted and growled and even snapped at me. The previous owners thought it was quite funny. And that imho is where the problem lies. People not treating their dogs as animals, but like people.

I soon stopped that by showing him who was "top dog". He is now fairly well behaved, but would I trust him? No. If I thought he was a danger to anyone would he be put down? Absolutely.
Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: Mr Bungalow on November 28, 2010, 05:14:41 pm
I`m intrigued about the dog flap for a German Shepherd  :o.
How much door would be left?

It took about 1/3 of the door up very big dog flap I can tell you.

Regards.
Title: Re: Forgot to mention Monday!
Post by: prestige cleaners on November 28, 2010, 05:36:18 pm
i wonder if a spray in the face with the pole would work?  or failing that a smack in the face with a pole?

all my custies dogs though just want to lick you to death!