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Title: What do you think of this cheap hot water upgrade?
Post by: chopsie on November 25, 2010, 07:06:07 pm
Just had a text offering this heater at a reduced rate. Anyone had any experience of it? http://www.poseidonproducts.co.uk/
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Post by: darren clarke on November 25, 2010, 07:11:35 pm
bit steep on the price, 
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Post by: bobplum on November 25, 2010, 07:15:14 pm
no experience ,but why pay £300 more than the l5?
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Post by: Jack Wallace on November 25, 2010, 07:15:46 pm
HOW MUCH!!!!!!!!!  :o
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Post by: Crystal-clear on November 25, 2010, 07:19:33 pm
is there really a difference thou with hotwash?

ive been told pure water is pure water hot or cold its gona be the same but i dont know as i only ever used cold wash,
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Post by: chopsie on November 25, 2010, 07:20:33 pm
I thought it was cheap!! it includes flue and stuff.
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Post by: darren clarke on November 25, 2010, 07:20:51 pm
i have used warm,  and it is better,
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Post by: chopsie on November 25, 2010, 07:37:22 pm
Old foggy's heater was going to be 400 quid wasn't it? This ones price is £417? So why is it expensive? I thought it was a text off Foggy actually  ???
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Post by: concept on November 25, 2010, 07:40:24 pm
Well, the email addy isn't live yet...
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Post by: Matthew Bateman on November 25, 2010, 07:40:36 pm
is there really a difference thou with hotwash?

ive been told pure water is pure water hot or cold its gona be the same but i dont know as i only ever used cold wash,

Id have loved hot today, I lost my rag so many times with bloody stiffened/wrapped up/knotted and jammed hose.

Only reason I didnt was have recently fitted van out with kit for a second person and havent reinstalled the L5.

Yes theres miles of difference before you even get to the glass.
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Post by: simon w on November 25, 2010, 07:43:35 pm

Chopsie.

Do you know much about the company/person offering this service and where their based?

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Post by: Clive McDonald on November 25, 2010, 07:47:01 pm
Matt are you going to ask me about the hot fit?
Or do you have the info you need.
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Post by: chopsie on November 25, 2010, 07:52:31 pm

Chopsie.

Do you know much about the company/person offering this service and where their based?


I know nothing about them, Or where they are based (unless its on website). Just got a text about half hour ago off them, Don't know where they got my number from (Its not hard to find though!).
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Post by: Matthew Bateman on November 25, 2010, 08:01:40 pm
Matt are you going to ask me about the hot fit?
Or do you have the info you need.

Am I going to ask you about the hot fit?
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Post by: Clive McDonald on November 25, 2010, 08:11:52 pm
I thought you might ask how it worked for two men.Actually it's better because the flow is higher.

Heater before the two pumps.Make sure the heater is low down as you need some help from gravity( which you didn't need on your single operation when the heater came after the pump).

The alternative is to buy two heaters, but one is actually better in this instance.
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Post by: concept on November 25, 2010, 08:16:39 pm
Just spoken to Poseidon, switched on guy, and hopefully getting it all fitted next week.

Initial impression is very good, very knowledgable, and certainly inspired confidence in me.

 8)

*based in Stafford by the way.
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Post by: chopsie on November 25, 2010, 08:19:41 pm
Bloody hell concept, You dont hang about!! Where abouts are u getting it fitted? How much does fitting cost. AND more importantly, did you mention me so i get a big discount  :P
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Post by: concept on November 25, 2010, 08:22:06 pm
Bloody hell concept, You dont hang about!! Where abouts are u getting it fitted? How much does fitting cost. AND more importantly, did you mention me so i get a big discount  :P

I am fed up with messing about mate, not going through another winter of uncertainty, and if it aids on 1st cleans etc, then happy days.

I was about to get myself up to purefreedom next week, but would end up spending nearly 3x as much as this, and I don't see the need.

Chopsie, I did mention it, and he said, and i quote..."c u next tuesday", although I want the system fitted on Monday?!  ???
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Post by: concept on November 25, 2010, 08:23:22 pm
Oh fitting was £150 I think.

Good thing is...its not an L5 bodge job, and will be safe in the van as its CE marked and vented, and fitted by Corgi engineer.
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Post by: mci services on November 25, 2010, 08:24:34 pm
I actually think it is a good buy, it is ce approved and complies with ADR regulations
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Post by: chopsie on November 25, 2010, 08:27:15 pm


Chopsie, I did mention it, and he said, and i quote..."c u next tuesday", although I want the system fitted on Monday?!  ???
I dont understand that bit? He will see me next Tuesday? I do not know who he is!!
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Post by: concept on November 25, 2010, 08:28:43 pm


Chopsie, I did mention it, and he said, and i quote..."c u next tuesday", although I want the system fitted on Monday?!  ???
I dont understand that bit? He will see me next Tuesday? I do not know who he is!!

My attempt at humour...

Look harder and you may see...

 ;D
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Post by: Ste M on November 25, 2010, 08:29:48 pm
which one have you gone for concept? got to be honest at that price im very tempter by the frost protection one especially if they fit it all with a flu for less than 800
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Post by: chopsie on November 25, 2010, 08:30:21 pm
I am bloody tempted to stick it on the credit card!! It would solve my problem of van system freezing as I cannot put an oil filled radiator in it this year.
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Post by: bobplum on November 25, 2010, 08:32:27 pm
Oh fitting was £150 I think.

Good thing is...its not an L5 bodge job, and will be safe in the van as its CE marked and vented, and fitted by Corgi engineer.

whats the full price with vat for the heater
and how much with vat for the fitting
cheers bob
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Post by: concept on November 25, 2010, 08:32:51 pm
which one have you gone for concept? got to be honest at that price im very tempter by the frost protection one especially if they fit it all with a flu for less than 800

the full kit with frost protection.

speaking again 2moro, and if all is well, Monday will be fitted.

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Post by: Matthew Bateman on November 25, 2010, 08:34:25 pm
I thought you might ask how it worked for two men.Actually it's better because the flow is higher.

Heater before the two pumps.Make sure the heater is low down as you need some help from gravity( which you didn't need on your single operation when the heater came after the pump).

The alternative is to buy two heaters, but one is actually better in this instance.

Im sorry to dissapoint you Clive, I didnt think of your system regarding this other guy Ive taken on  8)

If anyones having hot water from now on it'll be me he'll have to get his own  ;)
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Post by: concept on November 25, 2010, 08:34:42 pm
Oh fitting was £150 I think.

Good thing is...its not an L5 bodge job, and will be safe in the van as its CE marked and vented, and fitted by Corgi engineer.

whats the full price with vat for the heater
and how much with vat for the fitting
cheers bob

full quote coming tomorrow Bob.

I hope it all adds up as I just can't be bothered with more of the aggro I had last winter and this morning.
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Post by: chopsie on November 25, 2010, 08:35:27 pm
I still cannot see what you mean concept? I must be thick.
Any way if you lot buy one of these he should surely give me a discount for putting a link up  :P Hope they are ok. Keep me posted (unless I bite the bullet and buy one!)
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Post by: concept on November 25, 2010, 08:38:45 pm
Will keep you posted on it, and if all is well, I owe you a drink, as I was just adding up all my available coins for a Purefreedom system.

(C U Next Tuesday)

Surely now you see.... :-\
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Post by: chopsie on November 25, 2010, 08:45:02 pm
No still do not get it.....unless its implying that I know him (as a joke). :-\
You dont owe me anything, Hope its alright for you, if its not don't shoot the messenger!!!
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Post by: Clive McDonald on November 25, 2010, 09:15:25 pm
It sounds pretty good concept. The other concept are now doing a bolt on for two thousand eight hundred. Fitting is extra.


What sort of heater are you getting?
Do you have room in your van?
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Post by: concept on November 25, 2010, 09:25:22 pm
plenty of room in my van. going for the Proteus 2 set up.
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Post by: Ste M on November 25, 2010, 09:26:48 pm
concept can you get as much info as you can or ask him to come on here when you speak to him, im very interested myself and im about to take the plunge of installing my L5. this kit sounds top notch though especially fully fitted with a flu. Also wht van have you got concept?
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Post by: concept on November 25, 2010, 09:30:39 pm
concept can you get as much info as you can or ask him to come on here when you speak to him, im very interested myself and im about to take the plunge of installing my L5. this kit sounds top notch though especially fully fitted with a flu. Also wht van have you got concept?

Transit SWB low roof with 650l.

I wouldn't ask any supplier to come on here to be fair, as they get praised and battered all at once. I will get as much info as poss of course.
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Post by: Darranvps on November 25, 2010, 09:32:39 pm
It looks the business, I will phone them tomorrow
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Post by: windowswashed on November 25, 2010, 09:36:31 pm
Price of heater is cheap. Mine cost nearly 3k 3 year ago but I get to use red diesel for it so cheaper to run than using normal diesel.

Hot hose is a godsend this time of year ensuring early starts in minus degree weather. Been working as low as minus 5 with it but had two windows shatter out in 3 years and water freeze before it finished running down polished steel fascia above shop front at that temperature.
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Post by: Ste M on November 25, 2010, 09:39:26 pm
concept can you get as much info as you can or ask him to come on here when you speak to him, im very interested myself and im about to take the plunge of installing my L5. this kit sounds top notch though especially fully fitted with a flu. Also wht van have you got concept?

Transit SWB low roof with 650l.

I wouldn't ask any supplier to come on here to be fair, as they get praised and battered all at once. I will get as much info as poss of course.

im about to get one of these in the next couple of weeks, except mine is the med roof. please please can you take some pics and let me know an ill give you my e-mail address, this has really interested me as i was going to get peter fogwells but this sounds just as good if not better.
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Post by: concept on November 25, 2010, 09:50:31 pm
concept can you get as much info as you can or ask him to come on here when you speak to him, im very interested myself and im about to take the plunge of installing my L5. this kit sounds top notch though especially fully fitted with a flu. Also wht van have you got concept?

Transit SWB low roof with 650l.

I wouldn't ask any supplier to come on here to be fair, as they get praised and battered all at once. I will get as much info as poss of course.

im about to get one of these in the next couple of weeks, except mine is the med roof. please please can you take some pics and let me know an ill give you my e-mail address, this has really interested me as i was going to get peter fogwells but this sounds just as good if not better.

Drop me a line: windows at conceptwindowcleaning co uk
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Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on November 25, 2010, 09:53:20 pm
What about flow rate, will it run ok with a flow rate on the lower side?
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Post by: Clive McDonald on November 25, 2010, 09:55:20 pm
is it a l5 with a badge on?

The only ones with the ce mark are pretty well known
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Post by: concept on November 25, 2010, 10:02:14 pm
is it a l5 with a badge on?

The only ones with the ce mark are pretty well known

Am told not.
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Post by: Ste M on November 25, 2010, 10:11:37 pm
concept, that wasnt your full address mate, here is mine cleanasawhistlewindows@hotmail.com
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Post by: Clive McDonald on November 25, 2010, 10:21:43 pm
Rinnai- Morco

They are well known brands and have CE marks. We are not the big market for this, caravan's and motor homes are, so you would expect your heater to be known in this market.

Those without the CE mark are often made in china imported into the US where the regs are laxer and then sold on to us.This is why you can't get the L5 in europe.
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Post by: chopsie on November 25, 2010, 10:38:52 pm
I have just seen that you have edited your earlier post to say they are based in Stafford. If its Staffordshire, I went to a cleaning supplier last week who had sent me a brochure with water fed pole stuff in, So I called in to see what they had, It was on marchington industrial estate. He did take my number when I bought a couple of little bits off him (it all fits into place now) and he was saying he had just fitted a van out with a heated two man set up. this was them http://www.bgclean.co.uk/
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Post by: chopsie on November 25, 2010, 10:40:42 pm
saying that though, This is the heater in their brochure  ??? http://www.bgclean.co.uk/PDFs/streamline%20water%20cleaning%20web2.pdf   Its on page 8
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Post by: concept on November 25, 2010, 10:58:26 pm
I have just seen that you have edited your earlier post to say they are based in Stafford. If its Staffordshire, I went to a cleaning supplier last week who had sent me a brochure with water fed pole stuff in, So I called in to see what they had, It was on marchington industrial estate. He did take my number when I bought a couple of little bits off him (it all fits into place now) and he was saying he had just fitted a van out with a heated two man set up. this was them http://www.bgclean.co.uk/

dont think thats them chops.
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Post by: chopsie on November 25, 2010, 11:15:21 pm
Do me a favour everyone who buys or asks about one. Please mention my name and I might get a discount  ;) I really do not know who this person is, or who the company are, or indeed where they got my number and not some of yours  :-\ But Its a cheap system for you and potentially a few sales for them, So surely its worth a mention off you and maybe a discount off them (to be fair I probably would not be able to afford it anyway  :'() But if u don't ask you don't get  :-*
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Post by: mci services on November 25, 2010, 11:39:36 pm
Do me a favour everyone who buys or asks about one. Please mention my name and I might get a discount  ;) I really do not know who this person is, or who the company are, or indeed where they got my number and not some of yours  :-\ But Its a cheap system for you and potentially a few sales for them, So surely its worth a mention off you and maybe a discount off them (to be fair I probably would not be able to afford it anyway  :'() But if u don't ask you don't get  :-*

chopsie I phoned tonight and said i was chopsie, and they are sending me a system half price ;D thanks mate












joking ;)
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Post by: chopsie on November 25, 2010, 11:42:49 pm


chopsie I phoned tonight and said i was chopsie, and they are sending me a system half price ;D thanks mate

joking ;)

Quote
;D ;D......Blast, I never thought of that
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Post by: concept on November 26, 2010, 08:23:32 am
concept, that wasnt your full address mate, here is mine cleanasawhistlewindows@hotmail.com

done
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Post by: concept on November 26, 2010, 07:24:17 pm
Anyone had any joy contacting Elliot today?! Been trying all day and no joy... :-[
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Post by: chopsie on November 26, 2010, 09:10:28 pm
your kidding, He rang me earlier at 7.10pm. But I missed his call (he left a message). Its a bit late now but I will be ringing him back tomorrow, Shall I see if he is available to talk to you? If you want to e-mail me your number I will text him if you like.