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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Crystal-clear on November 24, 2010, 07:25:59 pm
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Hello,
Im thinking of getting a new larger van has anyone used The Cleaning Warehouse in Wolverhampton?
I am crap at diy and those guys seem to be advertising alot on ebay i think the prices seem reasonable.it be a 2 man setup i need hopefully 800-1000 liters.i dont think 650 would be enof for 2 man all day?
So yea who should i buy the system from ?
thanks.
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650 should do , i only use 400 a most and that is with 2 men
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650 should do , i only use 400 a most and that is with 2 men
Agreed 650 Lt is usually plenty for two men working 8 hour day. If you have a static system then you can always pop home for a quick refill on the odd occasion you use a full tank.
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oh cool , that would make it cheaper then if i go for the 650, but u guys havnt used or know anyone who used The Cleaning Warehouse in Wolverhampton?
Or who would you recommend who does a good job and price i wana get it all sorted so when i get the van i know who to go for.
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oh cool , that would make it cheaper then if i go for the 650, but u guys havnt used or know anyone who used The Cleaning Warehouse in Wolverhampton?
Or who would you recommend who does a good job and price i wana get it all sorted so when i get the van i know who to go for.
i got my system from the cleaning warehouse, they are bascily the same system as pure freedom but cheaper. I am very happy with my system i got from tcw, i have had no problems with it, the 2 guys there are very helpful, i think its Jo and Andy. They will drop you off up the town while your system is fitted, the guy that installs them does a top job. I got a 650L 2 man system and we havnt run out of water on a days work, i think if you have the pressure really high then you prob would run out. But i am very happy with my system and qould high remommend them
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Ok thanks lee looks like i will use them
if you dont mind me asking mate how much did it all cost you in the end and what did you get!?
did they make those ports water in sockets too :P?
cheers.
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I got what the call there platinum system, 2 man set up hose reels, 4040 ro 11.6l resin bottle full, van ports, 650l tank, split charger, auto shut off water softener kit. Basicly everything except poles. I think it came to £2700ish Inc fitting. I don't think the water softener kit is worth getting though and that cost £130 so it would have been 2550 without it
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what the hell is a water softener kit i imagine its some sort of prefilter before the prefilter? it sounds interesting
£2700 sounds like a good price by the way.
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if its anything to do with lowering the tds in before your ro its worth it aint it?
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The water softener kit is a resin bottle filled with softening beads and the water us basses through that first, it needs salf running through it regularly to regenerate the resin, it's designed fir hard water areas to help prolong the life of the ro to stop limescale building up inside , but to be honest there are people who's ro lasts them 2 years in hard water areas with out a softener, so I think they are a wasted of money, unless someone knows more about them than I do and can tell you otherwise.
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if its anything to do with lowering the tds in before your ro its worth it aint it?
It doesn't lower the tds
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If you clean large buildings 2 men will use 650 litres within 3 hours - non stop working!
If you are cleaning houses, stop n start it may last you most of the day if you are driving around and not using the system too much
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The water softener kit is a resin bottle filled with softening beads and the water us basses through that first, it needs salf running through it regularly to regenerate the resin, it's designed fir hard water areas to help prolong the life of the ro to stop limescale building up inside , but to be honest there are people who's ro lasts them 2 years in hard water areas with out a softener, so I think they are a wasted of money, unless someone knows more about them than I do and can tell you otherwise.
It sounds interesting might be worth the 130 quid something to look into
so how many miles has your ford concept got? ive seen one for sale with 44k miles 2003 reg new cambelt for 2250+vat so £2700 with vat looks immaculate do you think thats a good price?
also you do you find it spacious enough with a 2 man setup Cheers
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If you clean large buildings 2 men will use 650 litres within 3 hours - non stop working!
If you are cleaning houses, stop n start it may last you most of the day if you are driving around and not using the system too much
strange most guys are saying 2 man all day 650 on a normal flow rate on domestic
so you would recomend 1000 liters ? ???
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It sounds interesting might be worth the 130 quid something to look into
so how many miles has your ford concept got? ive seen one for sale with 44k miles 2003 reg new cambelt for 2250+vat so £2700 with vat looks immaculate do you think thats a good price?
also you do you find it spacious enough with a 2 man setup Cheers
concept or connect? ??? mine has 100K, i changed the cambelt myself when i got it, mine is the lwb hi top, its not too bad with the equipment in, not much room on the floor when the reels are in the back but its ok for what we want, i didnt want to get a bigger van than the connect.
If you are going for a 650L tank, and you go for a connect you will need the lwb 230 model as it has the higher payload and the height to fit the tank in
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I had my system from andy and jo at cleaning warehouse, cant fault it and the customer service is excellent.
tell um shaun from worcester sent ya ;)
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I had my system from andy and jo at cleaning warehouse, cant fault it and the customer service is excellent.
tell um shaun from worcester sent ya ;)
oi i have already sent him there, tell them lee sent you, thats lee, i repeat LEE,LEE,LEE ;D ;D ;D
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Pure Freedom, they did mine 3 yrs ago, never had a problem, was £2500 fitted.
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i would recomend you have the biggest tank you can .
i often use 650 on my own .
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::) what are you.. a fireman? ;D :P
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Lee how much might i pay for the lwb 230 connect with no more then 50k on the clock,? and just to make sure you find this van spacious and amazing and all the rest?
i do like the idea of a smallish big van like one of these with the side door but not so massive to park as parking in london is a problem i fear if i went bigger i may have to ditch some of my work as i wont be able to fit on the drives ,
then again i wana make sure it can hold enof water for 2 men for 8 working hours or at least 6 working hours on a decent flow rate, oh and could i not get an 800 in there? then i know for sure i am sorted?
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i would recomend you have the biggest tank you can .
i often use 650 on my own .
same here, i can use 650 ltrs in 6 hours if im on a comercial job. i regulary use at least 50ltrs doing domestic alone
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i would recomend you have the biggest tank you can .
i often use 650 on my own .
Likewise.
I have found that using a higher flow decreases the chances of doing a duff job.
Also, using too low a flow slows me down sometimes.
I could almost certainly get away with using less but there will always be the odd job that reacts badly to a low flow rate and you can't always predict which one it will be.
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how much might i pay for the lwb 230 connect with no more then 50k on the clock,?
Buy new, they are doing such great deals at the moment its cheaper in the long run than buying secondhand. Secondhand vans are always a bit of a liability.
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If you clean large buildings 2 men will use 650 litres within 3 hours - non stop working!
If you are cleaning houses, stop n start it may last you most of the day if you are driving around and not using the system too much
strange most guys are saying 2 man all day 650 on a normal flow rate on domestic
so you would recomend 1000 liters ? ???
The ones who don't use so much water are probably not doing so much work :P
When we clean a very large building 2 of us use up 1000 ltrs before lunch time, we always start refilling the system from the customers water supply as soon as we start, so we have enough for a whole day.
Most "manufacturers" quote a 1000 ltr system will last 12 - 14 hrs - they definately do not use them, themselves. Perhaps they go on one house here and one house there, but they definately don't mean non stop when cleaning a large building.
Our water flow rate is set on what is needed for the particular job - I would say on average 70
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Crystal pure systems, they did mine 3 yrs ago, never had a problem, was £2650.00 fitted,great systems http://www.crystalpuresystems.com
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I cannot really recomend anyone to fit, but I can say if you fit a Facelift system, you would be better off making and fitting your own.
Ionics - pricey, and expensive to run, compared to others. However they fit it extremely well, and they do look rather good :P
Concept 20 look quite good, a little bit pricey, it would be good to hear from window cleaners who have bought/used one for a long period of time, we may fit one of these to our next van..........
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I cant afford ionics, nice as they may be, but I got an email a couple of weeks ago from pure2o, which I think is like a sort of "value brand" of ionics. www.pure2o.co.uk
Looks like very good kit, and not too pricey. For example, when I looked at it they were doing a 400 litre RO system for £2,750 including VAT and fitting. I was very tempted, but then the wife crashed her car and the money had to go on replacing that instead!
Id be interested to know if anyone has any expericence of pure2o, or has one of their systems? Are they any good? If its ionics I'm thinking they should be pretty good, but would like to hear from someone who has one.
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I cant afford ionics, nice as they may be, but I got an email a couple of weeks ago from pure2o, which I think is like a sort of "value brand" of ionics. www.pure2o.co.uk
Looks like very good kit, and not too pricey. For example, when I looked at it they were doing a 400 litre RO system for £2,750 including VAT and fitting. I was very tempted, but then the wife crashed her car and the money had to go on replacing that instead!
Id be interested to know if anyone has any expericence of pure2o, or has one of their systems? Are they any good? If its ionics I'm thinking they should be pretty good, but would like to hear from someone who has one.
As far as i know, they use the same parts and the same crash tested clamps. Just dont have all the fancy fascias ect that Ionics have.
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Intresting thanks
Well basically im getting mixed messages some of you say 650 liters on a decent flow rate (i dont want to use minimal flow) the water for 2 people will last one full day?
But now i hear that 1000 liters gets used before lunch time ???
My work is domestic but domestic or commercial large building or small i am after 8 hours of water from my tank for 2 people.
i have 8 hour days on the glass but ofc there is driving in-between so maybe 7 hours would suite for 2 people.
but then again what happens if i do get a large building i would like to know that i have 8 hours of water whatever happens
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if you do get a large building, there will be access to water on-site somewhere. You simply have the system filling while you're working, then you'll never run out.
Most RO units can produce WAY more water per hour than you can use.
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I went for a 650l two man setup, my flow controller is set to 27, some may say it's low but if you have never done wfp before then you have nothing to compare it to, if you are used to a high flow rate then it would probably feel a little slow. Anyway I have been cleaning wfp for 2 months on that flow rate and havnt had any problems I start at 9 and finish at 3.00-3.30 and have 30 min lunch. My work is domestic, the 3 bed semis are all close together then I have days when I am doing the bigger county stuff. At the end of the day there is always water left in the tank and that is with 2 of us using it.
I get the impression that those that have the flow cranked up are in there one so they don't need to worry about how much water they use, or they have the flow higher because it's quicker to rince so therefore they can get more work done.
If you don't want a large van then you are limited to how much water you can carry, the max in a connect/expert size van will be 650l, you won't have the payload to fit any bigger tank in.
You could always have a small trailer with 25l containers of water in for the days where you need more water
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For what its worth, I’ve just cleaned 28 flats, consisting of 224 large windows, 24 small, including all the frames and sills, and 42 doors using 500 litres in 3 hours 20 mins.
I use 4 litres per minute flow rate with a shut off valve at my hip.
Nick
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i guess it all depends on the flow rate nick was it maxium rate?
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100 psi pump, 100 metres of mini bore ( 8mm ID ), 3mm jets, no veriflo regulator.
There is absolutely no water splashing back off the glass.
The quickest way of working I have found so far.
Nick
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Oh, and I have a 1050 litre tank.
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nice tank what van is it in?
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Transit 300. It has a 1420 Kg payload.
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yer i see on the ford site 1252-1420kg payload
what reg have you got? and which reg you think i should go for? i wana try and get the van for about 4k or less cant afford 13k for a new one ???
i guess it should be about 50k miles or so right ive seen a few 2002s with 80k on, you think those would be ok?
thing is its going to have a 3k+ system in there and i want it to last so i dont wana get a high mileage cheap van you think i shouldnt buy a van less then 2005?