Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: prestige cleaners on November 23, 2010, 10:15:06 pm
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on my scudo, im guessing its the bearings? is this a diy job or a garage? just sailed thru the mot too, gutted. is it ok to leave it until the noise becomes unbearable?
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check for mice ;)
it may or not be a wheel bearing, if it was I would do it myself but many would't,
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when is it squeaking, braking, cornering, over speed bumps or what? you will need to find out what is wrong first.
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If you have the tools then a wheel bearing is only a 45 minute job, it could also be a loose brake shoe due to a worn brake shoe spring, also a 45 minute job. If you don't have the tools then the whole thing is a real labour and better given to someone who has the tools. Nothing too technical involved just common sense and a realization that your hands will get dirty.
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I have not heard from squeaky for a while,
have you kidnapped him?
;D ;D ;D
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wheel bearings are not squeeking noises, they are a rumbling noise, due to failed bearings, squeeks could be low brakes pads or shoes or simply dust on them
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wheel bearings are not squeeking noises, they are a rumbling noise, due to failed bearings, squeeks could be low brakes pads or shoes or simply dust on them
yeah I would have to agree with that, sounds more like brakes to me or brake dust,
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Lads, telling you. If one small ball bearing compresses due to wear on top or below for that matter upon another, it will squeel like a pig, been there done it all with a guy who taught me well.
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Lads, telling you. If one small ball bearing compresses due to wear on top or below for that matter upon another, it will squeel like a pig, been there done it all with a guy who taught me well.
yes you could be right, thats why I asked if when braking or not, and to check for bearing just jack up and check for play on the wheel
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My front bearings are bad,
they whir ! ....they make deep , droning humming noise, sometimes on the motorway i can hardly hear the radio!
Mechanic said the sound will get louder and deeper, ..pretty much unbearable.
needless to say the vans going in for a minor op.
;)
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every wheel bearing i have ever known fail will make a rumbling grinding noise, never heard one squeel like a pig, but i aint heard everyone go so you may be right.
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still might be mice ;)
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it seems to happen at high speed, ive tried pulling on the handbrake (not hard) to see if that changes the sound but it doesnt, so thats why i thought it was the bearing,
i did take the wheel off and its a drum brake wheel, with a metal cap, i think that is prised off and a big nut there? there is a nipple which fits into a hole in the wheel, not sure if that needs removing too?
looked on ebay and a new bearing is about £70
what tools do i need?
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dont mean to offend mate but if you aint sure dont do it yourself, if a wheel bearing is fitted incorrectly then i wouldnt want to drive the van. just take it to a garage it wont cost as much as it would if you fitted it wrong and crashed
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it seems to happen at high speed, ive tried pulling on the handbrake (not hard) to see if that changes the sound but it doesnt, so thats why i thought it was the bearing,
i did take the wheel off and its a drum brake wheel, with a metal cap, i think that is prised off and a big nut there? there is a nipple which fits into a hole in the wheel, not sure if that needs removing too?
looked on ebay and a new bearing is about £70
what tools do i need?
First things first,
To check if it is the bearing jack the wheel up put one hand on the top one on the bottom and "waggle" is there any movement if there is its the bearing.
To change the bearing I recommend a haynes manual
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Yeh i agree , dont attempt it... and i hear they are murder to get off,(front)....
a kit is £45 at most decent places, ... plus labour
get it in the garage.
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it seems to happen at high speed, ive tried pulling on the handbrake (not hard) to see if that changes the sound but it doesnt, so thats why i thought it was the bearing,
i did take the wheel off and its a drum brake wheel, with a metal cap, i think that is prised off and a big nut there? there is a nipple which fits into a hole in the wheel, not sure if that needs removing too?
looked on ebay and a new bearing is about £70
what tools do i need?
First things first,
To check if it is the bearing jack the wheel up put one hand on the top one on the bottom and "waggle" is there any movement if there is its the bearing.
To change the bearing I recommend a haynes manual
you sure about 'waggling' it? the bearing will make a low rumbling sound when turned. there may be movement but it will be very slight unless its totally shot and if thats the case then he would definatly know something was up and not drive it.
also to change it id recommend a few spanners ;D
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it seems to happen at high speed, ive tried pulling on the handbrake (not hard) to see if that changes the sound but it doesnt, so thats why i thought it was the bearing,
i did take the wheel off and its a drum brake wheel, with a metal cap, i think that is prised off and a big nut there? there is a nipple which fits into a hole in the wheel, not sure if that needs removing too?
looked on ebay and a new bearing is about £70
what tools do i need?
First things first,
To check if it is the bearing jack the wheel up put one hand on the top one on the bottom and "waggle" is there any movement if there is its the bearing.
To change the bearing I recommend a haynes manual
agreed with that
it isn't a hard job but better to follow instructions. and just read the last post you will definitely get some play or waggle as described above
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If the bearing is squeaking id guess there would be movement.
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the thing is im guessing its a £200 in a garage or £100 for me maybe more if i need extra tools, at least then ive learned and can do it again in the future.
i might ask my neighbour if she wants a hobble, i saw her fettling her brake pads the other day!
i can watch her then and learn!
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and £70 sounds a lot for a bearing I would check with local suppliers
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First things first,
To check if it is the bearing jack the wheel up put one hand on the top one on the bottom and "waggle" is there any movement if there is its the bearing.
Form B, I agree this is one way to check if the bearing is worn, however, if the top or bottom (if there is one) wishbone ball joint is worn, then the wheel unit will also shake/wabble and it is then a case of stripping the unit down to eliminate the probable parts, to the point of identity.
The guy seems not too familiar with these kinds of problems and I would advise him to take it to an experienced mechanic though, as stated before, safety is paramount mate and if you are not sure then don't go there. It should not cost too much for what will be an hours work plus parts.
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If the bearing is squeaking id guess there would be movement.
i did have the wheel off to have a nose, i spun it and there was no noise, didnt think of waggling it! doh!
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If the bearing is squeaking id guess there would be movement.
i did have the wheel off to have a nose, i spun it and there was no noise, didnt think of waggling it! doh!
you need to waggle it with wheel on
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thanks for your replys guys, might have a look on youtube for any vids on it
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If the bearing is squeaking id guess there would be movement.
i did have the wheel off to have a nose, i spun it and there was no noise, didnt think of waggling it! doh!
you need to waggle it with wheel on
good idea :)
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Then check the other one as well
Then do the same with the front wheels as noises have a horrible way of travelling, so it could be a front disc pad or perhaps one of the front protector plates rubbing against the brake disc - ;D ;D ;D
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jacked it up again today, no waggle in the wheel, but a ruff feeling twice on each revolution? hard to say if its brake shoes or bearings? will have to open it up
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If the wheel feels rough when you turn it - then its probably the bearing.
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Take it to the garage and let the pros deal with it!!! As if it is the wheel bearing and you don't know what you are doing you could A) Over tighten it B) Under tighten it C) Damage the brake shoes trying to get the drum off D) Damage the shoe fitting kit trying to get the drum off E)Not adjust the brakes back up properly!!!
After 15 years as a mechanic even i now send my van and car to my mates garage as not only do i not have the time but also they have all the equipment in a nice WARM workshop ;)
Good Luck
Alan :)
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jacked it up again today, no waggle in the wheel, but a ruff feeling twice on each revolution? hard to say if its brake shoes or bearings? will have to open it up
id as good as gaurantee its the bearing
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It could easily be a rear suspension bush or mounting, do these scudo`s have rear trailing arms,you hear it at high speed,could just be movement,slight up and down causing it ,dont even think of changing the bearing yourself,plenty of diy`ers and mechanics knack the new bearing putting it in and plenty put it in the wrong way round and taking them out again knacks them.
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@ sean, im pretty sure its the bearing because of the rough feeling.
is it really as easy as this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BugGzelWMDo
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@ sean, im pretty sure its the bearing because of the rough feeling.
is it really as easy as this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BugGzelWMDo
if only but yes that how its done, just not as easily as that
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I`m starting to really dislike you tube and the mongey`s on it,you press a title to watch and instead of being educating its over simplified nonsense.
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Ha!
Not a spanner in sight.