Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Micky Boy on November 19, 2010, 09:55:44 am
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done this house 3 times now and still getting some marks on the window using wfp.
the frames are wooden, done the frames then let them dry, then went over just the glass and still leavin marks.
The brush im using is stream line. the water is 0.00 any advice ???
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so rinse lol, i have been rinseing alot and still getting spotting. i mean they are happy with the job im doing but i can see marks and its not how i want the windows to look.
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so rinse lol, i have been rinseing alot and still getting spotting. i mean they are happy with the job im doing but i can see marks and its not how i want the windows to look.
Are the frames white?
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just i thought coz i had one window on house that left marks ie a small but dirty run. told customer about it and she gave permission for me to go inside open the problem winfdow and wipe clean the underside of the drame which was dirty - no problem since and think maybe that there was a gap between opening frame and window frame that was heavily soiled and the only way to clean it was to wipe clean. - hope this proves to be the remedy other than rinse like hell.
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Are the frames fresh painted, old painted or varnished ?
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done this house 3 times now and still getting some marks on the window using wfp.
the frames are wooden, done the frames then let them dry, then went over just the glass and still leavin marks.
The brush im using is stream line. the water is 0.00 any advice ???
ive had this problem plenty of times
i always give the frames a good clean, it can take a while
that has always worked
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so rinse lol, i have been rinseing alot and still getting spotting. i mean they are happy with the job im doing but i can see marks and its not how i want the windows to look.
Are the frames white?
If they are indeed white, try running your finger along the frame, is there a milky liquid?
This happens quite alot with wooden/pained aluminium frames, not sure whether it is degradation of the paint or incorrect paint being applied in the first place i.e water based paint.
Either way the solution is:
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Some wooden frames actually get worse the more you rinse. I have one job that looks worse after I have cleaned than when I arrive! Water gets in gaps where the glass doesn't fully touch the frame and leaches back out. The paint looks fine but I'm convinced it's actually emulsifying with the water every time I clean.
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I did one today that was painted in the summer. For some unknown reason a milky liquid appeared whilst I was cleaning. Thought it was something on my brush at first.
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I did one today that was painted in the summer. For some unknown reason a milky liquid appeared whilst I was cleaning. Thought it was something on my brush at first.
Prob painted by a cowboy with water based paint.
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I did one today that was painted in the summer. For some unknown reason a milky liquid appeared whilst I was cleaning. Thought it was something on my brush at first.
Prob painted by a cowboy with water based paint.
Wouldn't make any difference water or oil based. ;)
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I did one today that was painted in the summer. For some unknown reason a milky liquid appeared whilst I was cleaning. Thought it was something on my brush at first.
Prob painted by a cowboy with water based paint.
Wouldn't make any difference water or oil based. ;)
Eh how do you figure?
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I did one today that was painted in the summer. For some unknown reason a milky liquid appeared whilst I was cleaning. Thought it was something on my brush at first.
Prob painted by a cowboy with water based paint.
Wouldn't make any difference water or oil based. ;)
Eh how do you figure?
External Water or oil based paint, once dry is waterproof. Bathroom & kitchen paint is all water based. Dulux weathershield is a superb external water based paint. Oil based paint is being, or has been phased out. Look in your local diy store, you probably won't find any. The technology of water based paints has moved on in recent years & is now as good as the older oil based alternative. ;)
Had this conversation with a trade painter in summer, they were painting the wooded & metal frames of a nursing home I have been doing for over 6 years. I always had spots & streaks from certain windows even after all this time. Once they were painted (water based) every window came up perfect! The job is a doddle now! ;D
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I did one today that was painted in the summer. For some unknown reason a milky liquid appeared whilst I was cleaning. Thought it was something on my brush at first.
Prob painted by a cowboy with water based paint.
Wouldn't make any difference water or oil based. ;)
Eh how do you figure?
External Water or oil based paint, once dry is waterproof. Bathroom & kitchen paint is all water based. Dulux weathershield is a superb external water based paint. Oil based paint is being, or has been phased out. Look in your local diy store, you probably won't find any. The technology of water based paints has moved on in recent years & is now as good as the older oil based alternative. ;)
Had this conversation with a trade painter in summer, they were painting the wooded & metal frames of a nursing home I have been doing for over 6 years. I always had spots & streaks from certain windows even after all this time. Once they were painted (water based) every window came up perfect! The job is a doddle now! ;D
You know what I meant.
OK
Prob painted by a cowboy with unsuitable paint
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done this house 3 times now and still getting some marks on the window using wfp.
the frames are wooden, done the frames then let them dry, then went over just the glass and still leavin marks.
The brush im using is stream line. the water is 0.00 any advice ???
What sort of flow rate are you using? I find sometimes on frames like this i need to use a low flow rate so the water goes exactly where i want it and maybe not splash about everywhere on high flow rate hitting the frames etc. Rinse,rinse and rinse is great advice, but it has to be right. A never ending stream of water on a problem frame like you have may not be the cure? More dry brushing and lower water flow i find works on wooden frames.
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I had a £40 job with wooden windows that i started trad. Then i used wfp and for a year i had to scrim them after, so they didn't spot anymore.
I put a lot of effort getting it good for wfp and the job was big enough that when i had finished, the windows i'd started 1st were almost dry.
I lost the job within 6 months because they begrudged the cost for the amount of time i ended up doing them in.
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Then i used wfp and for a year ....................
I lost the job within 6 months.........................
Good stuff !!!! ;D
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You can't win them all with wfp. Spots are from dirty water, probably paint residue. Either cut your losses and move on keeping your eye on the bigger picture or trad them.