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Title: Used Truck Mounts - your opinions Please
Post by: Keith Dobson on November 18, 2010, 07:34:14 am
Used Truckmounts on the Alltec website the Steamway Sidekick 9100 at 4.5k or the Steamway 6100 at 1.5k

I know they are used and need some TLC but can you get spares for these?

The preferred is the more powerful one but what are your opinions on the power, etc?

Title: Re: Used Truck Mounts - your opinions Please
Post by: from edge2edge on November 18, 2010, 08:17:09 am
the steamway 9100lx is a powerful machine and i get mine serviced at mpms(oxford) and all parts are available.Regards Alan(swindon)
Title: Re: Used Truck Mounts - your opinions Please
Post by: Ian Gourlay on November 18, 2010, 09:32:25 am
Keith

Better buy one quick if others are pondering it might be the spur
Title: Re: Used Truck Mounts - your opinions Please
Post by: Mark@Able Stonecare on November 18, 2010, 11:46:37 am
I've got a truckmount for sale, spitfire 4.0 with new engine fitted by hydramaster about 3-4 months ago got 130 hours on it now. Been serviced by Dave Ingram. If your intrested give me a call on 07591 737995. Thanks Mark
Title: Re: Used Truck Mounts - your opinions Please
Post by: derek west on November 18, 2010, 12:22:39 pm
theres a simple answer to your dilemma me old.

if your good with a spanner then to be honest, theres nothing to a truckmount, engine, blower and a few bits and bobs here and there to connect them all together. easy to repair, replace. repair jobs you don't famcy doing your self can be done by most mechanics.

if your not good with a spanner then buy new. your established so you should be able to work out if you can finance the extra cost.

don't forget to factor in that a 3 hour job will take 2 hours and your referal rate will increase (can of worms ;D) by a good percentage.
Title: Re: Used Truck Mounts - your opinions Please
Post by: brian willis on November 18, 2010, 12:34:42 pm
nice to see you keith had two second hand machines no probs hydramaster though ;D

  bri
Title: Re: Used Truck Mounts - your opinions Please
Post by: Tony Gill Carpet Smart on November 18, 2010, 01:31:29 pm
Nothing wrong with either of them but I would go for most power every time

Cheers Tony
Title: Re: Used Truck Mounts - your opinions Please
Post by: Keith Dobson on November 18, 2010, 09:17:18 pm
Thanks gents maybe its time to make some enquiries.
I have a SWB Van, I need to do some measuring also, don't see too much of a problem though.

Hello again Brian been a while since the NCCA Course mate?

Mark, I'm just interested at the moment need to convince myself if it's the right time to do it, also it has to be the right package at the right price.
Whats included tanks, hoses, hose reels pump out etc?
You could always e-mail me your package details and what sort of reasonable price you are thinking of.
Yes I'm shopping around for the best package/price

thanks again guys.

Title: Re: Used Truck Mounts - your opinions Please
Post by: richy27 on November 18, 2010, 09:24:37 pm
you will never look back
Title: Re: Used Truck Mounts - your opinions Please
Post by: garyj on November 18, 2010, 10:20:06 pm
you will never look back

Because you're neck muscles won't work due to pulling around 2" hose all day   :P
Title: Re: Used Truck Mounts - your opinions Please
Post by: Steve_Knight on November 19, 2010, 07:00:53 am
Keith
Your not that far from me (Coventry)
If you want to pop over for a day and see what a truck mount has to offer you are more than welcome.
ps Jim Neal came out with me for a day and what does he use now?
Brian Willis Had my Maxx 450d off me when he first got into the game.
Cheers  Steve
Title: Re: Used Truck Mounts - your opinions Please
Post by: garyfindlay on November 19, 2010, 04:20:44 pm
d how does your referal rate increase? ???
Title: Re: Used Truck Mounts - your opinions Please
Post by: derek west on November 19, 2010, 04:39:41 pm
d how does your referal rate increase? ???
lot of factors but mostly dryer carpets and the impression you leave on custy's that have not seen a truckmount in operation.
Title: Re: Used Truck Mounts - your opinions Please
Post by: garyfindlay on November 19, 2010, 04:46:53 pm
Things like noisy barsteward switch that off ,I`m on nightshift ;D
Title: Re: Used Truck Mounts - your opinions Please
Post by: derek west on November 19, 2010, 05:06:39 pm
 ;D
trouble with truckmounts is gary, when you show it to a portable user your stood right next to it, and FM its noisy, but when your using it and in the house you seriously can't hear it over the noise from the airflow at the wand. ive only ever had one complaint and he was just a busy body, about 5 doors down, came over and said "that things shaking my house" so told him to get a builder in to check his foundations.  ;D
Title: Re: Used Truck Mounts - your opinions Please
Post by: Keith Dobson on November 19, 2010, 05:13:22 pm
Again thanks for all your postings, I'm looking around to see what's about. NOT alot at the mo.
I probably buy a Truck mount if and when the right package comes along, well looked after TM, hoses , hose reels tanks etc at the right price of course. It's probably the wrong time of year.

Thanks for the invite Steve, I will take you up on that invite if we get a quieter period.
I was on the NCCA course with Brian 4 years ago now - nice chap and he said he had gone straight into a TM.
If you know anyone who is looking to sell a decent set up let me know, must have service history and well looked after of course, not mega bucks either. Starting off in the lower bracket end.
cheers gents.
Title: Re: Used Truck Mounts - your opinions Please
Post by: will_turton on November 19, 2010, 05:44:57 pm
must have a service history, keith you'll never get one then
Title: Re: Used Truck Mounts - your opinions Please
Post by: Andrew Briscoe on November 19, 2010, 08:02:00 pm
Kieth, i will have one for sale in a couple of weeks.
Steamway Sidekick, mounted on a frame with sub tank,
waste tank, reel and 2" hoses and possibly a 2" wand.
Done 3500 hrs roughly, Dave Lee owned it from new, he put
a new engine in it at 2700 hrs, also i have a spare engine, done 500hrs.

For sale due to purchase of new Maxx 470  ;D ;D

Andrew
Title: Re: Used Truck Mounts - your opinions Please
Post by: Dave_Lee on November 19, 2010, 08:52:03 pm
Kieth,
Whatever TM you end up with, don't forget to make sure your vans gross vehicle weight is sufficient, it is not just about measurements. The gross vehicle weight is made up of the van and being everything being carried including the driver and passengers. Dont forget to allow for TM fuel and water too. Some have been caught out in the past, leading to having to change their van after the TM has been fitted in the unsuitable one, whilst others have had to pay heavy fines.
Dave.
Title: Re: Used Truck Mounts - your opinions Please
Post by: wynne jones on November 19, 2010, 09:29:33 pm
You can look at receipts to indicate regular oil changes/filters etc and agent servicing, but I think it's a bit like sports car clubs on here where you only have to mention a machine and someone knows the machine and more importantly the owners attitude to maintenance and how they use/abuse it.
Title: Re: Used Truck Mounts - your opinions Please
Post by: Keith Dobson on November 20, 2010, 09:25:45 am
Some very good points never even thought about the weight factor?

So how much weight do allow for? That's surely a can of worms with all the different manufacturers


Need Some help with figures then Estimates in Kg's

TM Approx kgs?
Hose reel + hoses
Fuel tank?
Water tank + water
Waste Tank
Existing Portable and tools
Chemicals
SWB Toyota Hiace 2.4
My van states front axle weight 1400
Rear axle 1760
GVM Gross Vechicle Mass 2750

Title: Re: Used Truck Mounts - your opinions Please
Post by: derek west on November 20, 2010, 09:34:09 am
are you sure thats not pounds kieth?
Title: Re: Used Truck Mounts - your opinions Please
Post by: Keith Dobson on November 20, 2010, 09:39:48 am
Hi Andrew is it the Sidekick 6100 I got my eye on the 9100LX.
I'm being totally honest here If the right package comes along I might just go for it, but I want a mid range one if I can get one. What do you want for it?
Pictures,
history ( or service receipts ) Thanks Wynne & Will

Not forgetting about the weight factors. (Thanks Dave)

The reason I'm on the forums is to seek advise off people who can give you different views and sometimes very helpful info.
Thanks again guys.
Keep the infomation flowing.

Cheers Keith
Title: Re: Used Truck Mounts - your opinions Please
Post by: Keith Dobson on November 20, 2010, 09:44:13 am
are you sure thats not pounds kieth?

No in my owners manual is says Front Axle 1400 kg (3086 lbs)
Rear Axle 1760 kg (3880 lbs)
GVM 2750 Kgs ( 6063 Lbs)

I don't think I should have a problem do you? ???

But I will keep my eye on it now ;)
Title: Re: Used Truck Mounts - your opinions Please
Post by: wynne jones on November 20, 2010, 06:21:19 pm
For their size Hiaces have good maximum weights.

If you want to be safe I'd go for the lighter slide ins like the Panther/Woodbridge range or Prochem Blazer type, or the new Pheonix which seems to fit this bill.
Title: Re: Used Truck Mounts - your opinions Please
Post by: Dave Roelants on November 20, 2010, 08:48:36 pm
Keith, the figure you need is the payload, that's what's left when you take the weight of the van, driver, passenger and fuel away from the GVW. I've never known a Hiace to be legal with a TM fitted. Dave Ingram had only a Boxxer 421 in one and paid the penalty(literally)!
Title: Re: Used Truck Mounts - your opinions Please
Post by: Andrew Briscoe on November 20, 2010, 09:13:28 pm
My Sidekick is in an 05 hiace 2.5 td
gross weight is 2800 kg,
with a full water tank, machine, waste tank and reels with hoses,
shelving and stock chems, envirodri, and full tank of fuel with
me in it other week was 2620 kg on a weighbridge.

Kieth van has done 47000m
machine has been reg serviced by myself
will let you know a price next week, needs one hose replacing by Pirteck

Andrew