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Title: anyone fancy teaching a newby the ropes WFP
Post by: mark blundell on November 14, 2010, 01:50:50 pm
Hi Guy's

do any of you fancy a taking me out with you for a day to learn wfp i haven't started up yet still looking for a van/system but have been on here for about a month taking it all in.
I am based j26 m25 but i am willing to travel a little distance say 50-60 miles

cheers guys,
Title: Re: anyone fancy teaching a newby the ropes WFP
Post by: lyndy on November 14, 2010, 02:18:15 pm
Leicester is a bit to far
Title: Re: anyone fancy teaching a newby the ropes WFP
Post by: mark blundell on November 14, 2010, 02:24:18 pm
Leicester is a bit to far

yeah it is really i just googled it its 100 miles 2 hours each way.

but thanks for the offer

mark
Title: Re: anyone fancy teaching a newby the ropes WFP
Post by: mark blundell on November 14, 2010, 02:25:27 pm
Mark where are you in Essex?

waltham abbey on the border of hertfordshire
Title: Re: anyone fancy teaching a newby the ropes WFP
Post by: mark blundell on November 14, 2010, 02:45:00 pm
If clacton is not to far i dont mind you coming out with me for a few hours. ;)

thanks for the offer but its a bit to far really still 1 hour 30 mins

Title: Re: anyone fancy teaching a newby the ropes WFP
Post by: Alex Allen on November 14, 2010, 02:59:19 pm
you will pick up a lot of information from watching local wfp cleaners
look at the height their cleaning
the distance from the building etc
note the type of pole/brush
and the way they clean (some are crap have all the gear but cant use it)
If your just starting out use the aerial brush woth a CF pole forget anything else
Title: Re: anyone fancy teaching a newby the ropes WFP
Post by: mark blundell on November 14, 2010, 03:17:48 pm
you will pick up a lot of information from watching local wfp cleaners
look at the height their cleaning
the distance from the building etc
note the type of pole/brush
and the way they clean (some are crap have all the gear but cant use it)
If your just starting out use the aerial brush woth a CF pole forget anything else


its so hard i cant find anyone local enough to me to watch/go out with for the day. and i'm new to this so trying to take it all in. but everyone has a different opinion im getting told get van with bigest tank system by some and backpack by others. aerial brush woth a CF pole/sill brush with slx pole???
its so hard i think i have just got to go with what me and my pocket thinks best lol
Title: Re: anyone fancy teaching a newby the ropes WFP
Post by: Lee GLS on November 14, 2010, 03:52:51 pm
when i started wfp, i looked at videos on you tube they arnt great but give you an idea, and then when i got m y system just practiced on my house and my parents house, it doesnt take long until you start to become comfortable with it.
Title: Re: anyone fancy teaching a newby the ropes WFP
Post by: andyjm1 on November 14, 2010, 04:28:20 pm
you will pick up a lot of information from watching local wfp cleaners
look at the height their cleaning
the distance from the building etc
note the type of pole/brush
and the way they clean (some are crap have all the gear but cant use it)
If your just starting out use the aerial brush woth a CF pole forget anything else



its so hard i cant find anyone local enough to me to watch/go out with for the day. and i'm new to this so trying to take it all in. but everyone has a different opinion im getting told get van with bigest tank system by some and backpack by others. aerial brush woth a CF pole/sill brush with slx pole???
its so hard i think i have just got to go with what me and my pocket thinks best lol

Buy the best equipment that you can afford.
I started with a trolley because it suited my budget but a van mount is better.
Forget backpacks, they're for spraying your roses not window cleaning.
Title: Re: anyone fancy teaching a newby the ropes WFP
Post by: clearlyclean on November 14, 2010, 04:34:13 pm
I would take any help offered to you even if it means 3 hr drive and day out not much when you think how much you will learn.I dont think watching videos on youtube can compare to hands on experience and you can look at there system,I would snap theyre hand off for free advice.
Title: Re: anyone fancy teaching a newby the ropes WFP
Post by: Perfect Windows on November 14, 2010, 05:14:15 pm
If you want to do this, is a couple of hours' drive really too much?

Vin
Title: Re: anyone fancy teaching a newby the ropes WFP
Post by: Topclean on November 14, 2010, 06:20:57 pm
im in chertsey surrey junction 11 if you want!
Title: Re: anyone fancy teaching a newby the ropes WFP
Post by: Newannaive on November 14, 2010, 07:26:05 pm
you will pick up a lot of information from watching local wfp cleaners
look at the height their cleaning
the distance from the building etc
note the type of pole/brush
and the way they clean (some are crap have all the gear but cant use it)
If your just starting out use the aerial brush woth a CF pole forget anything else



its so hard i cant find anyone local enough to me to watch/go out with for the day. and i'm new to this so trying to take it all in. but everyone has a different opinion im getting told get van with bigest tank system by some and backpack by others. aerial brush woth a CF pole/sill brush with slx pole???
its so hard i think i have just got to go with what me and my pocket thinks best lol

Buy the best equipment that you can afford.
I started with a trolley because it suited my budget but a van mount is better.
Forget backpacks, they're for spraying your roses not window cleaning.

backpacks are a decent tool to have when needed
Title: Re: anyone fancy teaching a newby the ropes WFP
Post by: prestigeclean on November 14, 2010, 07:50:13 pm
your welcome to come out with me , tunbridge wells , give me a call 07791964204 alan
Title: Re: anyone fancy teaching a newby the ropes WFP
Post by: Paul Coleman on November 15, 2010, 07:51:23 am
Gatwick way if interested.
It's less than an hour from the Dartford crossing if the M25 and M23 are reasonable with traffic.
I think you are making a mistake in declining offers due to the travel involved.  The time and cost involved would be repaid in the first couple of weeks.
BTW.  For equipment I suggest a van mount of minimum 500 litres and a van that can take it (more is better for when you get larger commercial jobs but 500 should be fine for most purposes).  Plus a backpack for the odd job that is difficult or unsafe to access by hose.  Get one with a moulded carry handle.
I wouldn't pay you for the day but that's only fair IMO because showing you the ropes would slow me down - which I wouldn't charge you for.
Title: Re: anyone fancy teaching a newby the ropes WFP
Post by: Londoner on November 15, 2010, 07:54:33 am
Im in pinner and I'll give you a day out if you like.
Title: Re: anyone fancy teaching a newby the ropes WFP
Post by: mark blundell on November 15, 2010, 08:13:58 pm
thanks for all the offers guys I really appreciate all the help I have been getting from this site.

And you are right 3 hours shouldn't be to far to travel for this learning opportunity but iv'e just sold my truck to fund this van/system that I haven't got yet so am driving about in a ford ka i paid £100 for.
i hope i haven't come acrosss ungrateful to the offers i have declined dew to distance but I am worried about reliability of the car.

as for the system i have decided i am going to get a swb low roof transit and put a 750ltr tank in the back cheaper than the 650ltr. i'm going to make my own frame up for it. still undecided weather to go with the merlin r/o or hf5 40/40
http://www.gapswater.co.uk/acatalog/copy_of_Reverse_osmosis_kits.html
and with the money i save i will get a backpack aswell
Title: Re: anyone fancy teaching a newby the ropes WFP
Post by: mark blundell on November 15, 2010, 08:17:52 pm
Im in pinner and I'll give you a day out if you like.

Hi Vince,

It would be great to come out with you for a day do you want to leave me your number so i can call you to arrange.

or you can drop me an email to mark.blundell@hotmail.co.uk

cheers mark
Title: Re: anyone fancy teaching a newby the ropes WFP
Post by: Londoner on November 15, 2010, 08:51:12 pm
Mark

email sent
Title: Re: anyone fancy teaching a newby the ropes WFP
Post by: Klean07 on November 16, 2010, 07:14:43 am
Good to hear that Mark has got sorted at long last. When I started I went to spend a day with Mr H from Devon (Hes a moderator on Peters forum) I gained some great experience and from time to time if Ive got a question I will phone him knowing that he'll always know the answer.
Title: Re: anyone fancy teaching a newby the ropes WFP
Post by: Paul Coleman on November 16, 2010, 07:57:56 am
thanks for all the offers guys I really appreciate all the help I have been getting from this site.

And you are right 3 hours shouldn't be to far to travel for this learning opportunity but iv'e just sold my truck to fund this van/system that I haven't got yet so am driving about in a ford ka i paid £100 for.
i hope i haven't come acrosss ungrateful to the offers i have declined dew to distance but I am worried about reliability of the car.

as for the system i have decided i am going to get a swb low roof transit and put a 750ltr tank in the back cheaper than the 650ltr. i'm going to make my own frame up for it. still undecided weather to go with the merlin r/o or hf5 40/40
http://www.gapswater.co.uk/acatalog/copy_of_Reverse_osmosis_kits.html
and with the money i save i will get a backpack aswell

Good to see that you are going for decent kit straight away (shame about the Ka  ;D ) .
A couple of things.  If you are on a water meter, you might do better to skip the merlin as it throws out a lot of waste in proportion to pure.  It's not clear if the RO is going in the van or in a static unit.  If you need to use your van in the evening for private use, a static unit may be best.  Having said that, even if you plugged in at midnight after getting home, a merlin or a 40" will produce enough for the next day in fairly quick time.
Title: Re: anyone fancy teaching a newby the ropes WFP
Post by: Paul Coleman on November 16, 2010, 08:02:42 am
Good to hear that Mark has got sorted at long last. When I started I went to spend a day with Mr H from Devon (Hes a moderator on Peters forum) I gained some great experience and from time to time if Ive got a question I will phone him knowing that he'll always know the answer.

Indeed.  Although the forum is great, you can't beat a bit of hands on experience from someone showing you and letting you use their kit.
Someone called Paul Griffin gave me a day out in the wilds of Kent when I was first thinking of switching to WFP.  He hasn't posted here in ages but to this day I do still feel grateful for that bit of experience.
Title: Re: anyone fancy teaching a newby the ropes WFP
Post by: bobby p on November 16, 2010, 08:13:23 am
you could save an absolute  fortune by going trad. get that KA  totally serviced +brand new driver seat and i promise you a car like that will rake in loads of work IF  you are working the low end and  council estates . i tell you why i wouldnt dismiss the council estates- the houses are low,easy , and the wind rarely blows much through them.

 but if you are set on going WFP. all the best fellah
Title: Re: anyone fancy teaching a newby the ropes WFP
Post by: mark blundell on November 16, 2010, 06:52:30 pm
you could save an absolute  fortune by going trad. get that KA  totally serviced +brand new driver seat and i promise you a car like that will rake in loads of work IF  you are working the low end and  council estates . i tell you why i wouldnt dismiss the council estates- the houses are low,easy , and the wind rarely blows much through them.

 but if you are set on going WFP. all the best fellah

yeah its got to be wfp.
the ka's alright its my runabout car pop up the shop for milk ect i can park that car anywhere leave it unlocked and still feel safe that it will still be there. lol
but would not want to pull up to someone's house in it and offer a professional service.
can you imagine putting ladders on the roof of it haha i look stupid enough in it as it is im 6'4"