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Title: is this van ok
Post by: poole bay on November 12, 2010, 03:34:29 pm
iv juswt been offered a sportive2900 2.0 cdti 16v 115 bhp i will be carrying 650 ltr of water does any one use these and would it be ok
Title: Re: is this van ok
Post by: luther1 on November 12, 2010, 03:49:03 pm
Don't buy a Vivaro. Ask Gav lammy,me,Rich Fraser and every other poor sod who regretted the day they bought one. Why not a citroen dispatch or Hyuandi or transit connect etc?
Title: Re: is this van ok
Post by: poole bay on November 12, 2010, 04:02:12 pm
its not a traffic its a 09 plate vivaro
Title: Re: is this van ok
Post by: luther1 on November 12, 2010, 04:07:12 pm
Thats what i said! The vivaro,trafic and primastar are all the same van.  If you're close to Southampton tomorrow you can have a go in my Transporter. Burn off a few Saxo's in it,get waved at by surfer dudes and wink at some chicks. Accept no substitutes.  :)
Title: Re: is this van ok
Post by: Lee GLS on November 12, 2010, 04:08:11 pm
its not a traffic its a 09 plate vivaro

they are the same van, the gearbox giving up is a common problem, gav lam's one has gone through 2 turbos and has just blown a head gasket, look for a vito or a transporter if they are in your price range if you want a large van, if you could go smaller the transit connects are good little vans, and you can get a 650l tank in them, but you would be on the limit of the payload
Title: Re: is this van ok
Post by: poole bay on November 12, 2010, 04:12:03 pm
i no what your saying and said to my self not to get one but the problem dont lie in the new ones does it i cant see how all these small vans cope with 650 ltrs of water in they as its a lot of wait
Title: Re: is this van ok
Post by: Andy@w.c.s on November 12, 2010, 04:12:04 pm
my transporter will carry 3000 kgs i have a 650 ltr tank and all my kit and i am still under
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj186/zwizard1/utf-8BSU1HMDAxNjQtMjAxMDExMDctMTM1Mi5qcGc.jpg)
 ;D
Title: Re: is this van ok
Post by: luther1 on November 12, 2010, 04:14:10 pm
3000kg???? They don't make a Transporter that carries over 1300kgs. It might tow that weight. 3000kgs is the gross weight of your van,not what it will carry
Title: Re: is this van ok
Post by: Andy@w.c.s on November 12, 2010, 04:15:54 pm
i will go and check the  badge a min
Title: Re: is this van ok
Post by: Andy@w.c.s on November 12, 2010, 04:28:17 pm
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj186/zwizard1/utf-8BSU1HMDAxNzAtMjAxMDExMTItMTYxNy5qcGc.jpg)

I have got a weigh Certificate  here some where
Title: Re: is this van ok
Post by: luther1 on November 12, 2010, 04:33:37 pm
Thats the weight of the van, Is it a T26, T28,T30 or T32? That is the load capacity.
Title: Re: is this van ok
Post by: Frankybadboy on November 12, 2010, 04:40:31 pm
nothing wrong with a vivario from  05 PLATE  UPWARDS
Title: Re: is this van ok
Post by: Andy@w.c.s on November 12, 2010, 04:44:02 pm
T 30 102 tdi
unladen weight 1832 kg

so the total weight i can go to is 3000kg ???

total weight fully loaded with all my kit water/ vac / genny ect is 2860kgs
got the cert to prove it 
Title: Re: is this van ok
Post by: Jimmy Jon on November 12, 2010, 04:49:29 pm
Andy is that a T4 or a T5 out of interest? Luther, Have you got any pics? The T5 has got to be one of the best vans (Drive/build quality/looks/economical, etc). The wifes got a Transporter Shuttle T5 174BHP and it goes like stink and is a lovely drive, whilst I make do with a T4 van.
Title: Re: is this van ok
Post by: Lee GLS on November 12, 2010, 04:50:08 pm
i no what your saying and said to my self not to get one but the problem dont lie in the new ones does it i cant see how all these small vans cope with 650 ltrs of water in they as its a lot of wait

It's doesn't matter what size the van is as to wether it has the payload, i think the dobilo can carry 700kgs, but it has a1.3 diesel engine, my connect can carry 900kgs and it has a 1.8 diesel, but you can get a transit that can carry 1300kgs, but it only has 75 bhp, so as long as the van has the required payload it will handle that much weight regardless of the size on the van
Title: Re: is this van ok
Post by: Lee GLS on November 12, 2010, 04:53:31 pm
T 30 102 tdi
unladen weight 1832 kg

so the total weight i can go to is 3000kg ???

total weight fully loaded with all my kit water/ vac / genny ect is 2860kgs
got the cert to prove it 

I think that is the total weight of the van and the load you are carrying, 3000kgs won't be the payload though, you wouldn't be able to put 3 tonne in the back of your van
Title: Re: is this van ok
Post by: Andy@w.c.s on November 12, 2010, 04:55:37 pm
yep you are right luther1
took me a while lol

extra weight i can carry is 1168 kg

the total van must not weight more than 3000kg

I bow down to your Superior  knowledge  ;D
Title: Re: is this van ok
Post by: luther1 on November 12, 2010, 05:04:29 pm
I wouldn't go that far! I just made sure when i bought  my Transporter that it  would carry all my crap
Title: Re: is this van ok
Post by: Frankybadboy on November 12, 2010, 05:05:22 pm
andy

then make sure that you are not over on the axles weights which are
 1-1500
 2-1625
if you are over your gross weight then you be over your axle weight.

being over on axle weight is one fine for each axle.
and being over on your gross weight is another sperate fine. ;) ;)
Title: Re: is this van ok
Post by: deeege on November 12, 2010, 05:38:55 pm
nothing wrong with a vivario from  05 PLATE  UPWARDS

+1

I would be interested to hear of anybody with an 05 onwards that has had gearbox trouble.
Title: Re: is this van ok
Post by: Dave Willis on November 12, 2010, 06:07:59 pm
yep you are right luther1
took me a while lol

extra weight i can carry is 1168 kg

the total van must not weight more than 3000kg

I bow down to your Superior  knowledge  ;D

Chuck the vikans out - that'll save a hundredweight!  ;D
Title: Re: is this van ok
Post by: Dave Willis on November 12, 2010, 06:13:01 pm
Seriously though, these weight limits can be misleading - Citroens for example give a payload of something like 1200kg but they forget to mention that you need to allow for a full tank of fuel, a driver and passenger/s. My Toyota I believe, allows for a full tank of fuel before anything else is added.

Andy, I would think with two passengers and a full fuel load you would be very close to the limit.

Tank with water and boarding - about 700kg?
Two reels full of water                          40kg
Extra battery                                      10kg
Ladders                                                5kg
Vac                                                     30kg
poles                                                   10kg
full tank of fuel                                      70kg
Genny                                                  85kg
Bits and bobs                                        15kg

Thats about 965 kg before anyone climbs aboard
Title: Re: is this van ok
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on November 12, 2010, 06:23:14 pm
dont do it poole ;D ;D
Title: Re: is this van ok
Post by: STEVE-UK on November 12, 2010, 06:37:26 pm
Just had delivery of  a new trafic 2900 swb on contract hire,was considering the transporter but couldnt justify the extra money especially as  the new t5's are not that reliable anyway although they do take 1300kg+

http://www.nationwidevehiclecontracts.co.uk/Volkswagen_Transporter-T32_Swb_Van_20_Tdi_102Ps-20395-Technical.htm
Title: Re: is this van ok
Post by: dave.e on November 12, 2010, 06:44:04 pm
nothing wrong with a vivario from  05 PLATE  UPWARDS

+1

I would be interested to hear of anybody with an 05 onwards that has had gearbox trouble.




I have a vivaro 57 plate 2.0 cdti
Title: Re: is this van ok
Post by: Frankybadboy on November 12, 2010, 06:46:13 pm
payload

if you are unlucky to be pulled on to a weigh bridge by vosa,your total weight must not exced your gross weight.

you could have just 5lts of feul in the tank and carry extra weight in the back,just dont whatever go over gross weight,
Title: Re: is this van ok
Post by: poole bay on November 12, 2010, 06:51:41 pm
gav i dont no what to do im pulling my hair out its the best deal so far £254 a month 5 years 24 k on the clock silver  ???
Title: Re: is this van ok
Post by: Dave Willis on November 12, 2010, 07:04:09 pm
£15500 for a second hand van? Sounds a lot of money. Does that include part exchange too? What are they new with payments?

http://www.vauxhall.wilsonandcogroup.co.uk/vivaro-offer?gclid=CIuQgeT8m6UCFYY14wodG04HHA
Title: Re: is this van ok
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on November 12, 2010, 07:08:25 pm
poole lad r u sitting down lol
just waiting for mine to come back
which is going be tomorrow
bill is close to 5 ton m8
dont get a vivaro its a trafic
in disguise m8
never eva eva eva eva m8
will i buy another
or even if i was given one
phone gary thomas m8
Title: Re: is this van ok
Post by: Spruce on November 12, 2010, 09:59:27 pm
what about
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180579805443&category=18174&_trksid=p5197.c0.m619

Spruce
Title: Re: is this van ok
Post by: ant french on November 12, 2010, 10:07:51 pm
what about
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180579805443&category=18174&_trksid=p5197.c0.m619

Spruce

2k over my price range lol, i gotta start off small and build big, rome wasnt built in a day lol  ;D ;D ;D i can go upto 700 max, i dnt need lots of room but i want a good looking van so when i turn up they dont say pikeys are after work or he looks like a cowboy  :D   
Title: Re: is this van ok
Post by: AuRavelling79 on November 12, 2010, 10:14:27 pm
what about
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180579805443&category=18174&_trksid=p5197.c0.m619

Spruce

2k over my price range lol, i gotta start off small and build big, rome wasnt built in a day lol  ;D ;D ;D i can go upto 700 max, i dnt need lots of room but i want a good looking van so when i turn up they dont say pikeys are after work or he looks like a cowboy  :D   

Ant

Start at the beginning; think it through and don't go off half-cocked. What do you need for everything in your life. Don't rule out an estate car?
Title: Re: is this van ok
Post by: bobby p on November 12, 2010, 10:18:08 pm
i used a hatch back car at first and the humbler your vehicle looks the BETTER if you want fresh houses, as my FIAT car raked in no end of work.i had handmade signs stuck in the side windows and folk used to run across the street to chat to me.

 i now use a pug partner van (trad) and its  way better for the job ,but no where near as good at raking in new work as an oldish but shiney car
Title: Re: is this van ok
Post by: ant french on November 12, 2010, 10:34:54 pm
i looked at estate cars there in the mid 1000-1500 to insure where as a van is 495-800, so it has to be a van.going to ring this astra van up tomora morning if its gone ill have to figure something out thats all. i got windows to do monday from this week just gone :-\
Title: Re: is this van ok
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on November 13, 2010, 01:23:51 am
if yr going wfp  lad u will need a largeish van
end of every van as its woes trafic vivaro primastars
more than any ova transit old smileys perfect new
not so good ad that off the aa
vw transporter german usually good
merc vito german usually good
try hiace toyota seem cheep enuf
n jap cars r good pal  ;D ;D ;D