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Title: Building a round
Post by: Steve Raja on November 12, 2010, 12:17:22 pm
Hi all
After a year taxi driving I have had enough and want to build a new round. I need some advice on pricing as I have been out of the game for about 5 years because of illness. Going to be using traditional window cleaning tools/methods squeegee and dobber ;)
I am in the West Sussex area  around Pulborough Horsham area .Used to have a pretty good round that I had built up over about 5 or 6 years.
Another thing I guess its a bad time to start a round , what do you reckon ?
Any advice really appreciated
Steve
Title: Re: Building a round
Post by: dazmond on November 12, 2010, 12:37:31 pm
not another one!! ::) ::) ;D ;D.


better off staying on the taxis mate at least you can work in all weathers!! ;D ;D



dazmond
Title: Re: Building a round
Post by: Panorama on November 12, 2010, 03:04:39 pm
Hi steve and welcome to the forum. What were you charging 5 years ago? . I've just started again this summer after a 25 year lay off. Before I started I bumped into a wc whilst doing some delivery work and I asked what he charged and I bulit my structure around his price for working that same area. I've since picked up some more work in the same area but I'm actually charging more than him. I'm picking up his existing customers who are not happy with his work. So I would say put in a price what you think is fair for both you and the customer and also try do catch a wc in the area you want to target And obtain a quote.
Title: Re: Building a round
Post by: Steve Raja on November 12, 2010, 03:25:48 pm
not another one!! ::) ::) ;D ;D.


better off staying on the taxis mate at least you can work in all weathers!! ;D ;D



dazmond

Well yeah ....not yet anyway ;). Taxis are alright but where I am there is not much work so I end up at home most of the day so window cleaning  was an idea . Where are you then daz?
Title: Re: Building a round
Post by: Steve Raja on November 12, 2010, 03:31:00 pm
Hi steve and welcome to the forum. What were you charging 5 years ago? . I've just started again this summer after a 25 year lay off. Before I started I bumped into a wc whilst doing some delivery work and I asked what he charged and I bulit my structure around his price for working that same area. I've since picked up some more work in the same area but I'm actually charging more than him. I'm picking up his existing customers who are not happy with his work. So I would say put in a price what you think is fair for both you and the customer and also try do catch a wc in the area you want to target And obtain a quote.

Hi Panorama Just thought the prices might of gone up.
Well I used to charge 50p for plain and £1 for leads .
I bumped into some of my old customers over the weeks and they all say they would have me back ;)
Some of them dont even know where their window cleaner comes from ..that worries me.
Title: Re: Building a round
Post by: Panorama on November 12, 2010, 05:34:26 pm
That's what I'm getting at , take into account how much you were charging 5 years ago and adjust what you would feel to be a decent price. If your old customers want you back then you are already onto a winner ;)
Title: Re: Building a round
Post by: dazmond on November 12, 2010, 05:37:56 pm
cant comment on prices steve as im in the manchester area where prices are lower generally for window cleaning.get door knocking then mate with a few leaflets.a bit of trad stuff and away you go!i would advise if your gonna take window cleaning seriously to get a wfp ASAP.maybe a cheap backpack/ a few barrels and a 22 ft clx pole.you can always trad the ground floors and wfp upper windows for now.

ive been a trad window cleaner for 17 years but its a mugs game just sticking to trad these days when there is a much safer/faster/better way of cleaning windows in wfp.

trust me wfp is the way to go but you need some custies first!!


good luck and best wishes


dazmond
Title: Re: Building a round
Post by: Steve Raja on November 13, 2010, 01:43:33 am
Thanks for your advice guys .
Dazmond
Yeah I thought about getting a wfp sometime back . I actually met Jeff Brimble years ago and he was telling me all about wfp and how it was the future ...that was yonks ago!!
Will go trad to start with and as you say safer than flapping about up a ladder :) used to do three sections once and that was hairy at times!!
got to bite the bullet and get out there ..sort of lost some confidence being out of it for some time.
Just got back from taxi driving ...I know what I rather do ;)
Title: Re: Building a round
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on November 13, 2010, 01:49:39 am
hey lad as long as yr not
thinking of wrexham my old bean
ida strongly advise u 2 go 4 it
wrexham wud be a nightmare
due to me doing almost all ov it
bar john at jsm
who i allow to trade at my discretion lol ;D ;D
Title: Re: Building a round
Post by: chopsie on November 13, 2010, 07:48:48 am
Hi steve and welcome to the forum. What were you charging 5 years ago? . I've just started again this summer after a 25 year lay off. Before I started I bumped into a wc whilst doing some delivery work and I asked what he charged and I bulit my structure around his price for working that same area. I've since picked up some more work in the same area but I'm actually charging more than him. I'm picking up his existing customers who are not happy with his work. So I would say put in a price what you think is fair for both you and the customer and also try do catch a wc in the area you want to target And obtain a quote.

Thats nice, Ask a wc his prices,and then nick his customers!!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Building a round
Post by: Panorama on November 13, 2010, 11:39:51 am
read it again chopsie ::) iam charging more than him
Title: Re: Building a round
Post by: clearlyclean on November 13, 2010, 12:08:42 pm
always better to charge more.
Title: Re: Building a round
Post by: Matthew JN on November 13, 2010, 12:24:09 pm
Hi Steve,


What happened to the round you had 5 years ago, did you sell it ?  if not could you not recanvass some of your old customers ?
Title: Re: Building a round
Post by: Alex Allen on November 13, 2010, 06:54:23 pm
Hi all
After a year taxi driving I have had enough and want to build a new round. I need some advice on pricing as I have been out of the game for about 5 years because of illness. Going to be using traditional window cleaning tools/methods squeegee and dobber ;)
I am in the West Sussex area  around Pulborough Horsham area .Used to have a pretty good round that I had built up over about 5 or 6 years.
Another thing I guess its a bad time to start a round , what do you reckon ?
Any advice really appreciated
Steve


start wfp as well as trad
whats the problem with pricing?
Title: Re: Building a round
Post by: ant french on November 13, 2010, 08:49:49 pm
im looking at backpack but at the min im still getting custys and im using a wagtail on a 3 meter pole. does me ok for now
Title: Re: Building a round
Post by: Steve Raja on November 14, 2010, 01:00:53 am
Hi Steve,


What happened to the round you had 5 years ago, did you sell it ?  if not could you not recanvass some of your old customers ?

Hi Matthew
No I didn't sell the round ,so I could recanvass :)
Hi all
After a year taxi driving I have had enough and want to build a new round. I need some advice on pricing as I have been out of the game for about 5 years because of illness. Going to be using traditional window cleaning tools/methods squeegee and dobber ;)
I am in the West Sussex area  around Pulborough Horsham area .Used to have a pretty good round that I had built up over about 5 or 6 years.
Another thing I guess its a bad time to start a round , what do you reckon ?
Any advice really appreciated
Steve


start wfp as well as trad
whats the problem with pricing?

Hi Alex
Yeah I was just wondering what the going rate was in my area ...is thera difference in trad and WFP pricing ?
Title: Re: Building a round
Post by: Matthew JN on November 14, 2010, 05:29:33 pm
Hi Steve,

Defo a good starting point to recanvass your old customers, if you still have their details & numbers you could do this over the phone to save you a bit of time, then if they want a price arrange to pop round.

If you are going WFP then TBH you would want to look at a 6-8 week schedule, IMO with current economic climate you will probaly have more success with every 8 weeks.
Title: Re: Building a round
Post by: andyjm1 on November 14, 2010, 05:37:48 pm
Hi Steve,

Defo a good starting point to recanvass your old customers, if you still have their details & numbers you could do this over the phone to save you a bit of time, then if they want a price arrange to pop round.

If you are going WFP then TBH you would want to look at a 6-8 week schedule, IMO with current economic climate you will probaly have more success with every 8 weeks.

You would also need twice as many customers as you would if you built a 4 weekly round.
Title: Re: Building a round
Post by: Newannaive on November 14, 2010, 07:44:58 pm
Hi steve and welcome to the forum. What were you charging 5 years ago? . I've just started again this summer after a 25 year lay off. Before I started I bumped into a wc whilst doing some delivery work and I asked what he charged and I bulit my structure around his price for working that same area. I've since picked up some more work in the same area but I'm actually charging more than him. I'm picking up his existing customers who are not happy with his work. So I would say put in a price what you think is fair for both you and the customer and also try do catch a wc in the area you want to target And obtain a quote.

Thats nice, Ask a wc his prices,and then nick his customers!!!!!! ;D
swat i thought  ::)
Title: Re: Building a round
Post by: Panorama on November 14, 2010, 10:54:38 pm
So you havn't read it properly either ::)
Title: Re: Building a round
Post by: Paul Coleman on November 14, 2010, 11:16:26 pm
Hi steve and welcome to the forum. What were you charging 5 years ago? . I've just started again this summer after a 25 year lay off. Before I started I bumped into a wc whilst doing some delivery work and I asked what he charged and I bulit my structure around his price for working that same area. I've since picked up some more work in the same area but I'm actually charging more than him. I'm picking up his existing customers who are not happy with his work. So I would say put in a price what you think is fair for both you and the customer and also try do catch a wc in the area you want to target And obtain a quote.

Hi Panorama Just thought the prices might of gone up.
Well I used to charge 50p for plain and £1 for leads .
I bumped into some of my old customers over the weeks and they all say they would have me back ;)
Some of them dont even know where their window cleaner comes from ..that worries me.

Too cheap IMO.
At least £1 a frame for either (if WFP).  Maybe add 50% for leads.  Also, a minimum charge is a good idea.  Some of my work is around that area too.
Title: Re: Building a round
Post by: Stewart01 on November 18, 2010, 02:56:06 pm
istarted wfp beginning of year, offer 4 and 8 weekly service with the 8 weekly stuff staggered into each month, keeps it all nice and simple and means you can work on a 4 week rota so your not revisiting areas for for 1 off people who dont fit in with the rota.
Title: Re: Building a round
Post by: Alex Allen on November 18, 2010, 04:09:34 pm
Hi Steve,


What happened to the round you had 5 years ago, did you sell it ?  if not could you not recanvass some of your old customers ?

Hi Matthew
No I didn't sell the round ,so I could recanvass :)
Hi all
After a year taxi driving I have had enough and want to build a new round. I need some advice on pricing as I have been out of the game for about 5 years because of illness. Going to be using traditional window cleaning tools/methods squeegee and dobber ;)
I am in the West Sussex area  around Pulborough Horsham area .Used to have a pretty good round that I had built up over about 5 or 6 years.
Another thing I guess its a bad time to start a round , what do you reckon ?
Any advice really appreciated
Steve


start wfp as well as trad
whats the problem with pricing?

Hi Alex
Yeah I was just wondering what the going rate was in my area ...is thera difference in trad and WFP pricing ?


different areas in the same town or county will have different prices anyway mate
i would charge more for trad
but it up to you