Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: [GQC] Tim on November 05, 2010, 06:27:37 pm
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I just got what I thought a Tucker brush in, but upon opening the package a similar looking brush came out, with aquafactors embossed in the headstock, not a Tucker sticker in sight, also slighly more rounded edges of the stock, and judging from Luke Johnsons thread some time ago, much less overhang of the stock. Bristles look the same like the clear dupont ones.
stock width of Tucker: 27.4cm
stock width of aquafactors : 27.2cm
stock height of Tucker: 5.8cm
stock width of aquafactors : 5.8cm
brislte depth of Tucker 6.2cm
brislte depth of aquafactors 5.8-6.2cm depending on measured on edge or center
I will give em a call tomorrow and see what exactly is going on, but does anyone know if they are essentially the same? After spending £56 inc postage, I want to be sure I've got the real deal. ;)
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they are the same company are they not
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they are the same company are they not
I believe Aquafactors are the official Tucker distributors for the UK.
Aquafactors is one of the original suppliers of water fed poles and related water treatment. We set up in 1998 as a supplier of Tucker Pole® equipment and remain today their authorised UK distributor for their single and unique dual hose aluminium pole systems.
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Not- ?
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I confirmed with them the order when I placed it, I asked if it's a Tucker, they said yes, so I'm thinking it's allright, but want to make sure like said in first post. :)
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i stand corrected ;D ;D
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Can you two please take it somewhere else?
Thanks Ewan for the info, here are some pictures of it.
http://img830.i.us/g/dsc01001dq.jpg/
And here are some pictures of a real Tucker brush.
http://img257.i.us/g/img3068z.jpg/
http://img256.i.us/img256/8666/img3085m.jpg
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Send an email to Tucker USA as well asking what the deal is. Not expecting a reply during the weekend but it's good to have multiple lines out. Tucker USA are the ones that should know 100% certain wether it's technically the same brush or not. If it's the same brush angle, same bristle placement, length and grade, exactly like the Tucker, then I don't care much about the stock really.
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After some more measuring and looking at some other pictures I'm pretty sure it's identical, even down to the brush count. So I just went ahead and converted it over the weekend. Can't wait to try it out. Compared to a Superlite brush it's got a million more brushes, including the inner trim, and very easily splays to the inner trim with virtually no effort at all. This should be a scrubbing powerhouse.
Have a look at this pic to see the finished result. It's the stock of a superlite, but spray painted it. Will paint the washers white at a later date as well to make it look even more sleeker.
http://tinyurl.com/2uzes6j
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Oh and compared to the 300g of the superlite (mark2 I believe) it's 377g fully jetted etc etc. I've tried to drill some more holes in the back (tested on SL) but the drills rips the brushes out because it's so close together. Oh well, 377g for a fully loaded 12" still isn't too bad I guess.
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Just spoke to them on the phone and they said it's exactly the same brush, but it's manufactured in the UK instead of the US. It's the same bristles, bristle count etc. Cool, will update when I've used it.
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I think the bristles are superioir quality to the Gardiners sl brushes and generally has a better feel to it on the glass. Also they seem to be very durable.
Not a dig at Gardiners, just don't think their brushes are as good as Tucker.
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After some more measuring and looking at some other pictures I'm pretty sure it's identical, even down to the brush count. So I just went ahead and converted it over the weekend. Can't wait to try it out. Compared to a Superlite brush it's got a million more brushes, including the inner trim, and very easily splays to the inner trim with virtually no effort at all. This should be a scrubbing powerhouse.
Have a look at this pic to see the finished result. It's the stock of a superlite, but spray painted it. Will paint the washers white at a later date as well to make it look even more sleeker.
http://tinyurl.com/2uzes6j
Looks ok mate , but that is not the same tucker brush i have cant tell from that picture if the brstles are the same as a tucker
ive order the aerial brush from the website £54 ill let you know how it compares
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got the aerial brush yesterday
very nice using it tommorow
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Very good, let me know how it compares. :)
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hi guys I'm sorry to burst GQCs bbble but it is most def not a real tucker.
I bought 2 from the states and one from UK - the UK one is absolute rubbish compared to the US model. Its now used as a floor brush cuz thats all its good for. Complete waste of money, the headstock looks like it was cut with a saw and the staples rusted within weeks.
I'm sorry aquafactors but I'd never deal with you again.
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hi guys I'm sorry to burst GQCs bbble but it is most def not a real tucker.
I bought 2 from the states and one from UK - the UK one is absolute rubbish compared to the US model. Its now used as a floor brush cuz thats all its good for. Complete waste of money, the headstock looks like it was cut with a saw and the staples rusted within weeks.
I'm sorry aquafactors but I'd never deal with you again.
Really? I think it's one of the best brushes I have ever used. Not a staple in sight either. Dimensions are the same, shape is the same (apart from headstock) bristles are the same, splays beautifully, scrubs very very well. Headstock looks very professional.
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well then clearly the one they sold me was something else, I can assure you they promised me a tucker, what I got was nothing like a tucker.
I will post pics this weekend.
robbers
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Tim ive always liked the thought of a Tucker brush but price and bristle density has always put me off. Just looked at the pic of yours and notuced from what i remember that the stock thread isnt how it used to be. Does that screw onto a normal angle-adaptor, the type youd get for a gardiners brush or vikan.
Cheers
Matt
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well then clearly the one they sold me was something else, I can assure you they promised me a tucker, what I got was nothing like a tucker.
I will post pics this weekend.
robbers
Thanks Alan, looking forward to your pictures so we can get to the bottom of this.
Tim ive always liked the thought of a Tucker brush but price and bristle density has always put me off. Just looked at the pic of yours and notuced from what i remember that the stock thread isnt how it used to be. Does that screw onto a normal angle-adaptor, the type youd get for a gardiners brush or vikan.
Cheers
Matt
Price is a bit of a hurdle I must admit. I put my own screwthread on there, got one of a superlite brush and put it on there. The original Tucker system uses a different setup. What's bad about the bristle density? :) It's got a great deal of bristles, dense as well, but the brush stays very very clean, probably more so even then my superlite. And because the brisltes are opaque you can see every speck of dirt. I rinse with brush on and it works very well. :)
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The denser the bristles the less I trust rinising 'on'. Hlwever saying that Aquafactors are based only 3 miles from me, i might take a drive down there and browse their brush selection. I assume the stoch thread ln a tucker brush just unscrews then?
Matt
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The denser the bristles the less I trust rinising 'on'. Hlwever saying that Aquafactors are based only 3 miles from me, i might take a drive down there and browse their brush selection. I assume the stoch thread ln a tucker brush just unscrews then?
Matt
You can just buy the brush without the tucker aluminium head. Water flows very well through the brush, and very little water is retained in the brush. I've checked it numerous times right after cleaning, and the bristle tips are clean. It's very good, been using it again today, and it's great. Will do a minireview sometime.
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The denser the bristles the less I trust rinising 'on'. Hlwever saying that Aquafactors are based only 3 miles from me, i might take a drive down there and browse their brush selection. I assume the stoch thread ln a tucker brush just unscrews then?
Matt
You can just buy the brush without the tucker aluminium head. Water flows very well through the brush, and very little water is retained in the brush. I've checked it numerous times right after cleaning, and the bristle tips are clean. It's very good, been using it again today, and it's great. Will do a minireview sometime.
Keep us updated please Tim. ;)
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tuckers on the bottom and gardeners on top
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Okay here are pictures of my aquafactors brush. ::)
Being convinced that it was indeed a Tucker, like they told me(!) I already set out to make it lighter. (-50g)
Looks different to me really. What do you think?
Even though I like it this is clearly false advertising and selling a product which isn't the same, and isn't what I asked for.
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if its ok keep it
i would send it back even if it was a tucker
and get the aerial brush you get more for your money used it friday and it is fast, hassel free just glides over the window
not had a chance to use the scraper so put some sellotape on the window and it took it off and the glue
here the link http: www.wfp-brush.co.uk/promotions
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I've only ever used the following brushes so can only compare them to this brush : Bentley, mono vikan rect, superlite mark 1 and mark 2 (the ones without the indent on the stock) and the Ionics black double trim. I'm comparing it to the SL in the text below, because I think that is the best brush of them all.
Report on the Aquafactors 12" Double Trim brush.
Whether it's a Tucker or not (they still haven't contacted me about it which is kind of annoying) it's a decent brush. Definitely better then the SL I've got.
At stock it's a bit heavier then the SL brush being about 400g including headstock, jets and tubing. Compared to the 300g of the SL mark 2. I've probably been spoiled with the low weight of the SL, but you can really feel an extra 100g. Anyway, I drilled some holes in it and shaved off about 50g.
It splays very well, I never understood dual trim brushes where the inner trim simply didn't engage the glass without pressing down hard on the brush. It defeats the purpose of having a double trim and greatly reduces scrubbing power. This brush does splay very well and fully enables the inner trim to contact the glass, greatly increasing scrubbing power. In lack of another word, it really melts on the glass, if that makes any sense. Now that it's slightly less heavy it needs a bit more pressure on ground floor windows, but it's still fine.
The bristles are fantastic, being clear you can see any dirt in the brush. The brush also retains little water so doesn't get weighed down by it.
The brush stays very clean and is ideal for rinsing with the brush on.
The brush glides very very easily over glass and frames. Just like the SL, on traditional leaded lights it does skip a bit, but it's less. Around 25% less or so I would say.
On recessed Georgian panes there is more resistance I would say then the SL, but on normal Georgian panes there is less resistance.
The brush is much more effective on extreme angles, and can scrub much better on said angles.
Also with spider nests the brush is very effective and just flicks it out, probably due to it having much more bristles.
The original holes are not a great placement for pencil jets. The pencil jets need to be further to the sides, because it makes it much more difficult to rinse corners, often having to lift the brush to one side, or have the bristles hang over the frame. I've now put it about 1.6cm from the sides, which is much more like the SL brush.
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nice review Tim,
good to see a decent, well balanced comments - may get one to try myself
Darran
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The Tucker brush is unbelievably great. Too stiff for leaded though.
The price puts people off.
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Made two mistakes.
First, I wrote mark 1 and 2 Superlite brush. But I think they were both a mark 1, but the second one had a slight tweak to the bristles, being slightly better in scrubbing. Sort of a mark 1.1 superlite brush that Gardiners offered.
Secondly, the jet placement is ofcourse not 1.6cm from the side. I will measure it in a second to make sure I get it right this time. ;)
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I've tried that pro-window brush from WCW. Better suited to scrubbing cobble yards, stiff as a board & too long at a full 12"!!! ::)
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ive been using the omnipole brush for the last few months, its the same as a tucker, and i like it.
seems to hold its shape ( using hot or warm at the moment ) good scubbing and nice splay, just would like it to be a little lighter.
anyone else use these brushes, just another option as i think they are a bit cheaper than a tucker
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ive been using the omnipole brush for the last few months, its the same as a tucker, and i like it.
seems to hold its shape ( using hot or warm at the moment ) good scubbing and nice splay, just would like it to be a little lighter.
anyone else use these brushes, just another option as i think they are a bit cheaper than a tucker
Oh everything I've always been told is that it is far from being a Tucker. Have you compared the two? :)
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i have compared the 2 and they are very very similar, same dupont bristles etc.
same holes in for accepting the tucker head stock.
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i have compared the 2 and they are very very similar, same dupont bristles etc.
same holes in for accepting the tucker head stock.
Very interesting!
What about bristle count, length, placement, angle of splay etc? The problem with brushes is that if one parameter is slightly changed they do behave quite differently.
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as i seem to remember, i think the omni brush was very slightly ( and i mean slightly ) stiffer at first.
if i remember tomorrow i will take a pic of the 2 of them side by side so you can see them.