Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: ant french on November 03, 2010, 10:10:27 am
-
this morning while taking my daughter to school another bloke from my area who is a WC came upto me and said i hear your going into WC?. i said yep need the money and wanna start my own business and he said dont get stealing my custys and under cutting me or there will be trouble. i said what do you mean by trouble then mate and he said well wait and see when you steal my custys. why do people have to be so nasty?? he could of said good luck and enjoy the business but he got all nasty. :o i think hes worried now there will be competition
-
I shouldn't worry about it and good luck and enjoy the business :)
-
thanks ;D
-
while your with your daughter what a toss pot,i bet you wish you dropped him on the spot ,he sounds like a right idiot
i hate some windys i would now go and undercut all his jobs to wind him up, by about 50 % and then clean them for a laugh, if your near me i will help you clean them just to annoy him :)
-
Dont worry about it matey ;) Theres some idiots around!
There is no such thing as areas patches etc...and to a certain extent, we dont own our customers, its up to them who they choose. Thats why we strive to please them as best we can so they keep us.
Good luck and enjoy business by way.
-
His custies? Yeah right, get him to paint a big red cross on his custies doors so you know who to stay away from ;D Those who make all the noise never do anything when it comes down to it mate. Ignore the prat and go build your business.
Bloody caveman. ::)
-
MY DAD HAD A ROUND IN MANCHESTER FOR 40 YEARS AND I WOULD HELP HIM . MY DAD HAS ALWAYS BEEN VERY PLACID , BUT I HAD A TEMPER BACK IN THE DAY , ANYWAY WE WERE OUT WINDOW CLEANING WHEN ONE OF HIS CUSTOMERS COMES UP TO HIM AND SAYS THERE A BLOKE WHOS KNOCKING ON DOORS AROUND THE CORNER ASKING IF THEY WANT A CHEAPER SERVICE , ON HEARING THIS I SEE MY DADS FACE GO BRIGHT RED WITH ANGER , SO I SAY I WILL GO AND FIND HIM , SO OFF I TROT , I FIND HIM AND START TO ASK WHAT THE F,,K HE WAS DOING . HE COMES UP TO ME SWEARING HIS HEAD OFF . NOW TO TOP IT ALL , THIS GUY WAS A SCOUSER AND HE WAS ALSO ALOT BIGGER AND OLDER THAN ME , THIS APE WAS JUST ABOUT TO SMACK ME , WHEN NEXT THING HE WAS ON THE FLOOR , I LOOK AROUND TO SEE MY DAD......HE STARTS SHOUTING AT THE GEEZER TO p OFF FROM HIS PATCH AND NOT TO TOUCH HIS SON........NOW FROM THAT DAY TO THIS I STILL DONT KNOW WEATHER HE HIT THE GUY BECAUSE EITHER HE WAS TRYING TO NICK HIS ROUND OR WEATHER HE WAS PROTECTING HIS SON . BUT ONE THING IS I WAS NEVER CHEEKY TO HIM AGAIN .
-
nah i just dropped my daughter off, thing is hes charging crap prices and getting all the work, 5 quid to do a 10 window house, i cant compete, i wont get out of bed for that, sounds mad but i only go as low as 6 quid and thats just flats or bungalows, one women down the road from me is giving me a tenner to do 8 windows which im happy about. as i was going to charge her 8 quid lol ;D ill put leaflets in his custys doors so they say we had a wc drop a flyer off and then ill wait for the dodgy calls lol id love him to start on me, ill get to use my muay thai then lol
-
MY DAD HAD A ROUND IN MANCHESTER FOR 40 YEARS AND I WOULD HELP HIM . MY DAD HAS ALWAYS BEEN VERY PLACID , BUT I HAD A TEMPER BACK IN THE DAY , ANYWAY WE WERE OUT WINDOW CLEANING WHEN ONE OF HIS CUSTOMERS COMES UP TO HIM AND SAYS THERE A BLOKE WHOS KNOCKING ON DOORS AROUND THE CORNER ASKING IF THEY WANT A CHEAPER SERVICE , ON HEARING THIS I SEE MY DADS FACE GO BRIGHT RED WITH ANGER , SO I SAY I WILL GO AND FIND HIM , SO OFF I TROT , I FIND HIM AND START TO ASK WHAT THE F,,K HE WAS DOING . HE COMES UP TO ME SWEARING HIS HEAD OFF . NOW TO TOP IT ALL , THIS GUY WAS A SCOUSER AND HE WAS ALSO ALOT BIGGER AND OLDER THAN ME , THIS APE WAS JUST ABOUT TO SMACK ME , WHEN NEXT THING HE WAS ON THE FLOOR , I LOOK AROUND TO SEE MY DAD......HE STARTS SHOUTING AT THE GEEZER TO p OFF FROM HIS PATCH AND NOT TO TOUCH HIS SON........NOW FROM THAT DAY TO THIS I STILL DONT KNOW WEATHER HE HIT THE GUY BECAUSE EITHER HE WAS TRYING TO NICK HIS ROUND OR WEATHER HE WAS PROTECTING HIS SON . BUT ONE THING IS I WAS NEVER CHEEKY TO HIM AGAIN .
Does that mean that you were a cheeky sod as a child?????
Your poor dad should have let him clout you ;D
-
muay thai ?? What's that, a new pole? You seem to have a funny image of window cleaning mate. Forget the wild west stuff and just clean windows, you get paid then.
-
I wouldnt lower your prices to compete with him if he is the type to threaten other W/C then he probably threatens customers not to drop him.In some parts of Manchester they are very territorial but if your on own and no threat,how many houses can a guy possible do 15-30 maybe a day and most towns have 6000+ houses in,I think there is enough for everyone,But I can see why some get upset it takes years to build up a nice round and you can lose your head if you think you going to lose work but in reality that rarely happens.If he threatens you again just tell him your not targeting his type of customers and that you want higher class work ;D
-
muay thai ?? What's that, a new pole? You seem to have a funny image of window cleaning mate. Forget the wild west stuff and just clean windows, you get paid then.
its thai boxing, same as kick boxing but you can knee and elbow
-
So that's the way you think is best to start your business? Go and punch his lights out?
Is that how window cleaning goes where you live?
-
i said what do you mean by trouble then mate and he said well wait and see when you steal my custys. Ever think why he did not give you a answer.HE DID NOT NOT HAVE ONE.
-
its called business and there is nothing you or he can do about it, knock where u want, take what jobs you want, as people will do it to you and you will do it to people, it annoys the hell out of you at first, but if they leave then they aint worth it, jst go and replace with better jobs
quote author=mark808 link=topic=111546.msg951670#msg951670 date=1288784754]
MY DAD HAD A ROUND IN MANCHESTER FOR 40 YEARS AND I WOULD HELP HIM . MY DAD HAS ALWAYS BEEN VERY PLACID , BUT I HAD A TEMPER BACK IN THE DAY , ANYWAY WE WERE OUT WINDOW CLEANING WHEN ONE OF HIS CUSTOMERS COMES UP TO HIM AND SAYS THERE A BLOKE WHOS KNOCKING ON DOORS AROUND THE CORNER ASKING IF THEY WANT A CHEAPER SERVICE , ON HEARING THIS I SEE MY DADS FACE GO BRIGHT RED WITH ANGER , SO I SAY I WILL GO AND FIND HIM , SO OFF I TROT , I FIND HIM AND START TO ASK WHAT THE F,,K HE WAS DOING . HE COMES UP TO ME SWEARING HIS HEAD OFF . NOW TO TOP IT ALL , THIS GUY WAS A SCOUSER AND HE WAS ALSO ALOT BIGGER AND OLDER THAN ME , THIS APE WAS JUST ABOUT TO SMACK ME , WHEN NEXT THING HE WAS ON THE FLOOR , I LOOK AROUND TO SEE MY DAD......HE STARTS SHOUTING AT THE GEEZER TO p OFF FROM HIS PATCH AND NOT TO TOUCH HIS SON........NOW FROM THAT DAY TO THIS I STILL DONT KNOW WEATHER HE HIT THE GUY BECAUSE EITHER HE WAS TRYING TO NICK HIS ROUND OR WEATHER HE WAS PROTECTING HIS SON . BUT ONE THING IS I WAS NEVER CHEEKY TO HIM AGAIN .
how do u and your dad hitting someone becasue they are on your patch, make it ok, as what is the difference, as your patch must of been someone else first,
-
Hi,
When this post has petered out print it off & put in his letter box. He should learn that he is a chump & you the champ.
Kevin WINDOLENE
-
;D im going to flyer his custys lmao hes charging silly money so i might not get any new custys but if hes doing cheap prices he cant be doing serious work can he? maybe me going round is saving them from his dodgy work. i might be wrong he might be good. :-\
-
if he was good, be wouldnt be worried about losing custy
-
Home on the range!!!!!
-
its called business and there is nothing you or he can do about it, knock where u want, take what jobs you want, as people will do it to you and you will do it to people, it annoys the hell out of you at first, but if they leave then they aint worth it, jst go and replace with better jobs
quote author=mark808 link=topic=111546.msg951670#msg951670 date=1288784754]
MY DAD HAD A ROUND IN MANCHESTER FOR 40 YEARS AND I WOULD HELP HIM . MY DAD HAS ALWAYS BEEN VERY PLACID , BUT I HAD A TEMPER BACK IN THE DAY , ANYWAY WE WERE OUT WINDOW CLEANING WHEN ONE OF HIS CUSTOMERS COMES UP TO HIM AND SAYS THERE A BLOKE WHOS KNOCKING ON DOORS AROUND THE CORNER ASKING IF THEY WANT A CHEAPER SERVICE , ON HEARING THIS I SEE MY DADS FACE GO BRIGHT RED WITH ANGER , SO I SAY I WILL GO AND FIND HIM , SO OFF I TROT , I FIND HIM AND START TO ASK WHAT THE F,,K HE WAS DOING . HE COMES UP TO ME SWEARING HIS HEAD OFF . NOW TO TOP IT ALL , THIS GUY WAS A SCOUSER AND HE WAS ALSO ALOT BIGGER AND OLDER THAN ME , THIS APE WAS JUST ABOUT TO SMACK ME , WHEN NEXT THING HE WAS ON THE FLOOR , I LOOK AROUND TO SEE MY DAD......HE STARTS SHOUTING AT THE GEEZER TO p OFF FROM HIS PATCH AND NOT TO TOUCH HIS SON........NOW FROM THAT DAY TO THIS I STILL DONT KNOW WEATHER HE HIT THE GUY BECAUSE EITHER HE WAS TRYING TO NICK HIS ROUND OR WEATHER HE WAS PROTECTING HIS SON . BUT ONE THING IS I WAS NEVER CHEEKY TO HIM AGAIN .
how do u and your dad hitting someone becasue they are on your patch, make it ok, as what is the difference, as your patch must of been someone else first,
You should come to manchester maybe do a bit of window cleaning round Old Trafford and you will see,I think you maybe a bit naive but some guys dont want competition because they are c$$p and dont want to be showed up for the crooks they really are.And as i read it the other guy was going to attack his son! I believe in that no one has the right to a patch but saying that i am very careful about where I take on new customers.
-
u get probs down here, the is a company in newquay who only keep the jobs as they treaten all newbies that is why they all go over to st austell looking for work
-
I think you get that in all types of business,had a phone call they other week I didnt want the job (out of my area) when i said it isnt my area she told me that she had rang or spoke to three other window cleaners who were scared to clean her windows in case of come backs she beg me to clean them and said i could them at night ;D I just didnt want the job but i agreed to do them because I didnt want to appear a coward but rang me a couple of days before and said she found someone more local.I think w/c are my territorial on housing estates and the lower price work so they can keep it
-
lol id love him to start on me, ill get to use my muay thai then lol
Makes sure you teach Muay Thai to your equiptment too, as that could be a potential fly in the ointment if it can't defend itself.
-
This kind of thread really does get my goat.
Responding with violence is not a solution. It merely increases the potential damage.
Smile, tell him he's welcome to canvass anywhere he chooses to get your customers off you.
Finally, whenever you see another windy, stop and have a word. Ask them how their business is. Be interested in how they work. If you're WFP and they are trad, ask all the questions you've ever wanted to. And vice versa. If you're wfp and they are, talk kit. Get them to see you as a human being and all you'll get is cooperation. People don't threaten other human beings; they threaten caricatures (such as "the guy who's going to steal all my business"). Become human to them.
Vin
-
I'm starting to feel left out, Ive been doing this job since 95 and Ive never had a threat, but to come up to you while dropping rug rat off at school well that's a joker,
-
I'm starting to feel left out, Ive been doing this job since 95 and Ive never had a threat, but to come up to you while dropping rug rat off at school well that's a joker,
I think Tosh has had similar happen to him in Chepstow.
-
yea there seems to be a bit of it going on there have been some around here i few windy's i know have had it from a chap he is a big boy with a big gob that's it but due to his size he has got away with a few, the rest of us know him and he don't bother us he seems to pick on a certain type. why they bother is beyond me but it happens around the country.
-
the window cleaners who threat are all the idiots who are jealouse of other window cleaners makeing it work and doing well. I feel i have a top round and would never give a fellow shiner stick..however when i first started building up i hated seeing other cleaners on the roads i did as i wanted them.
I talk to every shiner i see nowdays and find the miserable rude ones are the ones who charge pennys and finding it hard to cope. Why else would they be so miserable and mean working there own hours and for themselfs with no one to answer too. Just jealouse twats.
-
well i have 3 customers now and i have his school job lol i told the school i would clean all the doors for free as thats my policy in all my jobs. the school said the last window cleaner they had ( bloke who threatened me ) would just turn up out of the blue and it wouldnt be every month and it would be while kids were in classes, they want the windows done while kids are having dinner then out to play so it doesnt interupt them learning, so i said thats fine with me, i start next week ;D lol cant wait for him to find out, will be worth watching. :-X
-
I'm starting to feel left out, Ive been doing this job since 95 and Ive never had a threat, but to come up to you while dropping rug rat off at school well that's a joker,
I think Tosh has had similar happen to him in Chepstow.
No. What happened there is- Tosh did the school run and some kids came out and took his dinner money and cigs off him.
-
Well got bad news the school decided they couldnt afford my price after considerable thought, they said they have a caretaker so he can do the windows, WELL GUTTED! i dont think i over priced the job to be honest, i charged what i thought was right by how many windows and how long it would take me. even chucked in 10% discount to land the job!! i blame the goverment for not funding schools enuff lol
-
funny how all the moralistic ones have there opinions on this. where i come from window cleaners are spouting up everyday and taking work off lads who have been doing it for years. most of the time paying no taxes and claiming benefits while people like myself work hard and pay for them. in short i agree with a little word in some peoples ears. lets see if you have the same opinion when YOUR losing work.
-
funny how all the moralistic ones have there opinions on this. where i come from window cleaners are spouting up everyday and taking work off lads who have been doing it for years. most of the time paying no taxes and claiming benefits while people like myself work hard and pay for them. in short i agree with a little word in some peoples ears. lets see if you have the same opinion when YOUR losing work.
so if we start losing work we should go out and threaten other window cleaners,
-
no threaten them before you lose the work.lol
-
no threaten them before you lose the work.lol
It's all been said before mate. This forum has been around long enough to have covered this subject enough times. If you need to knock people about to stop losing custies, then go ahead.
-
that is just stupid, you lose work big deal, this business needs growth, go get more, and any custy that come back when the doles sod off charge more, as you dont know why you are threatening, might be some psycho who puts you in hospital then just takes your round,
-
that is just stupid, you lose work big deal, this business needs growth, go get more, and any custy that come back when the doles sod off charge more, as you dont know why you are threatening, might be some psycho who puts you in hospital then just takes your round,
;D ;D ;D :D :D
I love these threads. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
-
the way i see it is, either someone is charging less money than you or ya poop at cleaning windows thats the only way you can lose work. My nan told me today that her window cleaner has been coming for 20 years , i almost passed out, 20 years :o lol but i said id do hers for free to gimme practise and she said but the bloke has a living and i told her im family lol
-
it is hard to get some people to change there window cleaner, as they trust them,
-
the way i see it is, either someone is charging less money than you or ya poop at cleaning windows thats the only way you can lose work. My nan told me today that her window cleaner has been coming for 20 years , i almost passed out, 20 years :o lol but i said id do hers for free to gimme practise and she said but the bloke has a living and i told her im family lol
Why did yopu stop using the "the 1 and only" ID? ;)
-
poop? and your how old?
-
I thought when Bateman used this ID he was really at his best
ok heres 1 of me at school before i put the weight on
;D ;D ;D
-
cosy? how long have you been cleaning windows for and how many customers do you have?
-
Why? You want to teach me something? ;D
-
its a fair question
-
What's the size of my custy base got to do with you? You some sort of WC police? ;D
-
doesnt matter mate your reply says it all. just trying to grasp if you do have any true experience of these matters or not. when people post on here words like poop it makes me realise who im dealing with. my company has been going 60 yrs and we have over 2200 domestic customers every month and contracts anually of over 300k and employ 7 full time window cleaners and 2 office staff. so yeah i know a liitle bit about the game and stand by my convictions which have served me well. good luck.
-
doesnt matter mate your reply says it all. just trying to grasp if you do have any true experience of these matters or not. when people post on here words like poop it makes me realise who im dealing with. my company has been going 60 yrs and we have over 2200 domestic customers every month and contracts anually of over 300k and employ 7 full time window cleaners and 2 office staff. so yeah i know a liitle bit about the game and stand by my convictions which have served me well. good luck.
Well done mate, bet your dad is a policeman too. ::) Poop? Who said poop?
-
wheres your funny banter and wit gone mate.
-
how many wc did you have to threaten to get that many custys
-
Hi Guys,
Apologies but this needs to calm down otherwise the topic will be locked.
Thanks
-
OK, Need to get some shopping in for the weekend. ;D Laters. :-*
-
monkey i dont need to say who my company is. funny how you say our club and yet you have been cleaning windows 5 mins.
-
true, but if your where a big company then your shouldnt have a problem saying who you are,
-
this is a fun thread isnt it, ;)
i have run my biz for nearly 30 years, and have only been threatened once ::) ;D
caine every one knows my biz name ;)
-
this is a fun thread isnt it, ;)
i have run my biz for nearly 30 years, and have only been threatened once ::) ;D
caine every one knows my biz name ;)
was that the wife when you were skiving Mike ;)
sussed by stan ;D ;D ;D
no the guy came to my house and said, he was going to run me out of town ;D
i just smirked at him and he went off in a right one ;D ;D
-
99% sure it's corwoods.
-
monkey i dont need to say who my company is. funny how you say our club and yet you have been cleaning windows 5 mins.
DOH!!
If you are building a a fantastic business and continuing the proud work of others, surely you would be proud to show us all. With a bit of luck we will pick up a tip or two from a seasoned pro. ;)
It takes about a week to learn to wash windows. ;D
-
99% sure it's corwoods.
impressive website 8)
-
monkey i dont need to say who my company is. funny how you say our club and yet you have been cleaning windows 5 mins.
Hello Paul from Cheshire. Corwoods by any chance? ;D
-
I thought when Bateman used this ID he was really at his best
ok heres 1 of me at school before i put the weight on
;D ;D ;D
natures so cruel sometimes :'(
especially if you have to drive a bus too :-[
-
monkey i dont need to say who my company is. funny how you say our club and yet you have been cleaning windows 5 mins.
Hello Paul from Cheshire. Corwoods by any chance? ;D
Gold, you mean THE Paul McCarthy??
Never heard of him . ::)
-
Caine does have a point and when it comes down to it we only do it for the money and spend time maintaning windows for years for a new comer to under cut and then realize they cant earn money and you get the senerio of my last window cleaner charged a fiver and you know the job is worth a tenner.When i started out on my own I was careful not to take other guys work and I have even traded work with existing guys,we all would like good compact work and there is no point doing one house in a street when the other guy has 20 and your wondering whether next time its going to blow up into a row.You can network with other local guys and one of their customers may have a contact in your area.So it is always good to keep on good terms with other W/C,But like they say you cant get on with everyone.
-
Yeah, he has a point, he thinks it's ok to threaten window cleaners.
-
funny how all the moralistic ones have there opinions on this. where i come from window cleaners are spouting up everyday and taking work off lads who have been doing it for years. most of the time paying no taxes and claiming benefits while people like myself work hard and pay for them. in short i agree with a little word in some peoples ears. lets see if you have the same opinion when YOUR losing work.
Funny old world isn't it. Where i come from we're seeing a lot of legit newcomers, or long standing cleaners expanding their business at the expense of the people who have done it for years paying no taxes. Either way, as you've no doubt noticed your market is either being opened up to or exposed to more suppliers. Your tactic is to haver a word in someones ear? That'll only work for so long, i hope you gotta better business plan than that other wise your companys long standing of 60 years might not be standing for another 60 yearsif thats all its got to rely on to retain its business.
-
Bump for Cain to confirm or deny his company is corwoods, Cheshire.
-
Come on mate, show a little respect here,his company has been going 90 yrs and he has over 12200 domestic customers every month and contracts anually of over 900k and employs 47 full time window cleaners and 145 office staff. On Weekends, he has the Pope fly in and bless the water after the R.O. unit for heavens sake. ::)
;D