Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: geefree on October 29, 2010, 11:21:57 pm
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So many people enquired , and various threads covered this topic, but , are people using them now with success?
Or did the idea diminish into obscurity?
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think jeff brimbles is going strong
aswell as another guy who iv forgot lol
try asking jeff ;)
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Gazzasp8 are you going down that route?
was thinking of setting up a system myself but missed out on a couple of motors on ebay, motors that drive electric wheel chairs!
They would be ideal as run of battery!
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think jeff brimbles is going strong
aswell as another guy who iv forgot lol
try asking jeff ;)
Not me, maybe Clive, Slumpbuster. But I do always use a Hozebox hose reel(Now in Tesco direct) , the hose cannot jump off the reel.
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thought it was you jeff can remember you
adviseing someone about it lol ;D
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Maybe a bargain for the adventurous.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/lightweight-mobility-scooter-working-spares-repair-/260684777786?pt=UK_Health_Beauty_Mobility_Disability_Medical_ET
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wasnt the problem with them that the batterys kept needing changing, as am sure some one could rig up something to run of the battery on a van
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Remember this one.
"The pole hose cleaner" another revolutionary idea that seems to have fallen by the wayside.
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I have two on my van gazz.Many have seen pics on here and a utube video.
It's quite tiresome explaning the technical aspects over and over, but they work wonderfully well.
Many don't like/ don't agree etc, so there tend to be niggles such as you get about using hot water, from people who know nothing about it.Some use trolley', or are mainly commercial, so there is less of an advantage, but for the busy guy who has a lot of domestics they turn you into a flying machine.With two operaters you are virtually flying the tardis.
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Ah thanks,
so they are still being used?
Yes, i can imagine problems, ..
I imagine having to stand over it whilst it reels in... in case of tangles etc... thus defeating the object of speed , although that is easier than hand reeling in....
Can ayone tell me who used a 12v drill to wind the reel in?
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try it,easy to do m8!
Ah thanks,
so they are still being used?
Yes, i can imagine problems, ..
I imagine having to stand over it whilst it reels in... in case of tangles etc... thus defeating the object of speed , although that is easier than hand reeling in....
Can ayone tell me who used a 12v drill to wind the reel in?
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Are you trying to wind me up? I said there was a utube video and pictures on here.
I think you are confusing an automatic or remote controlled reel with an electric one.
As far as i know 12v drills don't work.
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I use an 18v ryobi drill to bring my hose in, and it works really well!!
Tony
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im looking to run a cordless drill off of a car battery, that way the battery should last all day and saves carrying spare batteries and having to change them
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Is it really so hard to wind a hose up manually?are we really so lazy or is it just clutter the van up with more crap that can brake?or do we need add more weight to balance the water tank poles hose reels water heaters trad gear and anything else
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Keep it simple can be a good plan.And for most it's probably the best plan.For high end good kit is needed.
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I honestly can't see how mecanically sorry bout the spelling, winding the hose reel up is better than winding it up by hand,just seems like another diy gadget,am not trying to offend at all.better kit being a diy thing that reels hose in for me?
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The aim is to save time.
Slumpbuster has the attitude (correct, in my opinion) that a few seconds saved on each part of each job may well allow you to do an extra job a day. If an electric reel saves you 20 seconds a job then over 15 jobs you have five minutes. Find another couple of ways to save 20 seconds and you'll have saved 15 minutes, so you'll be adding another job. I found about half a minute a job just by dropping off my "windows done" envelope as I did the job rather than going back to the van for it every time.
I was told on here that I clearly live to work once for expressing sentiments like these, but if something involves no effort, just doing things a little more efficiently, why would you NOT want to do it?
For those of you who don't want to make any more money, you could even spend the 15 minutes at home with your feet up.
Vin
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Yes agree that all the small time savings can add up over the course of a day.
Im surprised a manufacturer has not brought out a twin geared manual hose reel which could double the effectiveness of each turn of the handle to halve your winding in time.
Its not hard to do. ;)
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I would love to see one of these reel things in action to see if they do save time cause belive me I can put 100 meters of microbore bk on reel fast enough belive me
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I would love to see one of these reel things in action to see if they do save time cause belive me I can put 100 meters of microbore bk on reel fast enough belive me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGbxRpkrWqg
I don't wind that fast by hand!
Vin
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I have to say am impressed I acknowledge that looks good and bow we are not worthy !!!!!
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jesus!!! I feel even sicker after watching that vid, Warning, do not view with a hangover!!!
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I honestly can't see how mecanically sorry bout the spelling, winding the hose reel up is better than winding it up by hand,just seems like another diy gadget,am not trying to offend at all.better kit being a diy thing that reels hose in for me?
I can't honestly belive that if there is an easier/quicker way of doing something, why on earth that you wouldn't do it, as long as the financial impact was to great!! ??? I can run 2 miles pretty quick, but belive me I would rather drive my car than run every where! ;D
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The aim is to save time.
Slumpbuster has the attitude (correct, in my opinion) that a few seconds saved on each part of each job may well allow you to do an extra job a day. If an electric reel saves you 20 seconds a job then over 15 jobs you have five minutes. Find another couple of ways to save 20 seconds and you'll have saved 15 minutes, so you'll be adding another job. I found about half a minute a job just by dropping off my "windows done" envelope as I did the job rather than going back to the van for it every time.
I was told on here that I clearly live to work once for expressing sentiments like these, but if something involves no effort, just doing things a little more efficiently, why would you NOT want to do it?
For those of you who don't want to make any more money, you could even spend the 15 minutes at home with your feet up.
Vin
I honestly can't see how mecanically sorry bout the spelling, winding the hose reel up is better than winding it up by hand,just seems like another diy gadget,am not trying to offend at all.better kit being a diy thing that reels hose in for me?
I can't honestly belive that if there is an easier/quicker way of doing something, why on earth that you wouldn't do it, as long as the financial impact was to great!! ??? I can run 2 miles pretty quick, but belive me I would rather drive my car than run every where! ;D
Yes, but not just time. I get tired, especially at the end of the day.My arm used to ache, and my bicep would throb at night.
There are other ways to do this.Two vans for instance can probably achieve more work and i still have to half kill myself every day to hit a figure.There is no right and wrong way, but i love the idea that a machine does the work.
The thing about the slips is good thinking.I'll have to think how i can use vin's idea.One thing i have done is bought a date stamp for slips.This is because price, date ,and house number often get transmogrified in my head and i write the wrong info.I also have a stamp for envelopes but i do this en masse, and a stamp with my acc no and name to save time when i pay cheques in.
Of course another 'machine' that does all the work is wcpro (or george).I did suggest as a feature that it print off all the days clean slips, but since coming up with a better idea i wouldn't use this feature now anyway.
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What connections do you use Perfect windows to connect your hose reel to drill???
thanks
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What connections do you use Perfect windows to connect your hose reel to drill???
thanks
Slumpy is the one who's made it - that's his video, I believe.
Vin
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I've used a standard hose reel and had problems. Firstly it sheared the plastic on the spindle so it was round instead of hex. Than I put a nut on the end of the spindle and connected to that but the torque in the drill split the end of the spindle and ripped the metal bolt out of the plastic spindle.
I have asked Slumpy before for details of his fittings as they look fairly specialised. If you look closely at the video the socket on the dill seems to be keyed to the attachment on the hose reel, it isn't a regular socket attachment. Would love his input on how he got a standard reel to last more than a few days and also would love details on this new reel and the fittings. However, I may be wrong, but I get the feeling he doesn't want to go into too much detail.
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My reel lasted about a year before the spindle sheared.Before that rounding was a problem and i used to use black electrical tape to pack and protect.
Metal reels- the cheap ones- have plastic spindles and these can break.I replaced the broken spindle with metal.
I now use the yellow cox ones and these are quite strong without any modification.
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Where did you get the metal spindle? I have asked Gardiners but they say they don't know of any.
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As regards the clutches i tried to get alex interested but he wasn't.I don't believe he did enough domestic imo to see the benefits, but he didn't go with round software or vans either.Bit strange that the guy at the forefront of flogging space age kit should be stoneage in his own approach.He had hoselock reels too!
What i thought was he could get an engineering firm to knock them up, either my design or something similar but simpler to execute.The principle is a dog leg clutch, so called because it used to be used as a crank handle to start petrol engines on cars and other engines in the good old days before batteries and starter motors.There would a zig zag bit , the dog leg, and then on the starter handle two stumps that stook out and went into this.When the engine fired the handle would be thrown off.If it back fired you could break a leg.
Anyway i thought he could have done these at £50, and then people could sort the rest themselves, but probably buying a cox reel from him.
As regards the metal internals i had them made.
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As regards the clutches i tried to get alex interested but he wasn't.I don't believe he did enough domestic imo to see the benefits, but he didn't go with round software or vans either.Bit strange that the guy at the forefront of flogging space age kit should be stoneage in his own approach.He had hoselock reels too!
What i thought was he could get an engineering firm to knock them up, either my design or something similar but simpler to execute.The principle is a dog leg clutch, so called because it used to be used as a crank handle to start petrol engines on cars and other engines in the good old days before batteries and starter motors.There would a zig zag bit , the dog leg, and then on the starter handle two stumps that stook out and went into this.When the engine fired the handle would be thrown off.If it back fired you could break a leg.
Anyway i thought he could have done these at £50, and then people could sort the rest themselves, but probably buying a cox reel from him.
As regards the metal internals i had them made.
As do I Slumpy. Infact, the same "hozelock" reel for the last 6.5 years!! It's never broken, let me down, no new spindles etc. etc. It cost £25 back then. ;)
Who's the muppet? ;D
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;D
Well the muppet might be the guy who lugs his reel in and out of the van every job and then hand cranks it in, but well done anyway.
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Well the muppet might be the guy who lugs his reel in and out of the van every job and then hand cranks it in, but well done anyway.
;D ;D ;D
Don't believe the hype! ;)
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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tCkQdH3f-UA
still workin 2 years later
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Slumps, a bit of advice ........
Get your dad to hold the camera next time ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGbxRpkrWqg
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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tCkQdH3f-UA
still workin 2 years later
That's the one I thought of, and funnily enough you never showed how it actually works. A shame really. :-\
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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tCkQdH3f-UA
still workin 2 years later
what motor is it attached to the reel, that looks great, have anyone got any info on that set up
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Has anybody tried using the motor from one of these?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/12v-2000lb-Electric-Winch-Recovery-Trailer-Car-ATV-/380297429284
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As regards the clutches i tried to get alex interested but he wasn't.I don't believe he did enough domestic imo to see the benefits, but he didn't go with round software or vans either.Bit strange that the guy at the forefront of flogging space age kit should be stoneage in his own approach.He had hoselock reels too!
What i thought was he could get an engineering firm to knock them up, either my design or something similar but simpler to execute.The principle is a dog leg clutch, so called because it used to be used as a crank handle to start petrol engines on cars and other engines in the good old days before batteries and starter motors.There would a zig zag bit , the dog leg, and then on the starter handle two stumps that stook out and went into this.When the engine fired the handle would be thrown off.If it back fired you could break a leg.
Anyway i thought he could have done these at £50, and then people could sort the rest themselves, but probably buying a cox reel from him.
As regards the metal internals i had them made.
Alex now has his own CNC machining facility, try emailing him with the details. It would be worth his while if there was the demand.
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As regards the clutches i tried to get alex interested but he wasn't.I don't believe he did enough domestic imo to see the benefits, but he didn't go with round software or vans either.Bit strange that the guy at the forefront of flogging space age kit should be stoneage in his own approach.He had hoselock reels too!
What i thought was he could get an engineering firm to knock them up, either my design or something similar but simpler to execute.The principle is a dog leg clutch, so called because it used to be used as a crank handle to start petrol engines on cars and other engines in the good old days before batteries and starter motors.There would a zig zag bit , the dog leg, and then on the starter handle two stumps that stook out and went into this.When the engine fired the handle would be thrown off.If it back fired you could break a leg.
Anyway i thought he could have done these at £50, and then people could sort the rest themselves, but probably buying a cox reel from him.
As regards the metal internals i had them made.
Alex now has his own CNC machining facility, try emailing him with the details. It would be worth his while if there was the demand.
Dai why has he got a CNC? surely he doesnt make enough stuff to justify paying out for one of these, has he just got access to one or does he actually own one?
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think jeff brimbles is going strong
aswell as another guy who iv forgot lol
try asking jeff ;)
Not me, maybe Clive, Slumpbuster. But I do always use a Hozebox hose reel(Now in Tesco direct) , the hose cannot jump off the reel.
Hi Jeff, have you got a link to this reel?
How much 8mm hose do they hold?
Im really getting peed off with hose "jumping" off my reel!
Cheers