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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: bobby p on September 17, 2010, 09:50:03 pm

Title: Merged topic; Like a wagtail? + wagtail flipper - what's your esperience?
Post by: bobby p on September 17, 2010, 09:50:03 pm
i have been using it for a year as my main squeegee .At first i absolutely loved it, the speed advantage, the extra reach .  but then my  wrist then my shoulder started playing up (i put it down to lifting my ladder ) ,next i bought a smaller size flipper and  next i changed to using my opposite arm cos the pain didnt go . so the shoulder pain went  but then that wrist  is now hurting

 im fanning with it all day,i think it could be that when the channel hits the stops on the plastic disc its jerking my wrist ?.   or is it because the weight of the squeegee +wet pad is heavy ?  i saw a video of the wagtail inventor using "small scallop " movements only , does anybody here do that?

 

Title: Like a wagtail?????
Post by: mikecam on October 22, 2010, 10:23:49 pm
http://www.shineline.co.uk/xcart/product.php?productid=16316&cat=0&page=0&featured=Y

Anyone used one or similar.How many others are there that are similar to a wagtail???
Title: Re: Like a wagtail?????
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on October 22, 2010, 10:25:19 pm
mike av u got one ?????
Title: Re: Like a wagtail?????
Post by: mikecam on October 22, 2010, 10:31:10 pm
mike av u got one ?????

No, i was just browsing around. I tried out my mates wagtail for high internals and i liked it, i was thinking of getting one then came across this which looks similar but cheaper? ANy good you reckon?
Title: Re: Like a wagtail?????
Post by: bobby p on October 22, 2010, 10:37:59 pm
doesnt look like it will swivel . looks heavy too
Title: Re: Like a wagtail?????
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on October 22, 2010, 10:50:12 pm
them wagtail look ok
mike tbh never tried em but they do look gud ;D ;D
Title: Re: Like a wagtail?????
Post by: bobby p on October 22, 2010, 11:11:50 pm
i started getting carpal tunnel from using a Wagtail flipper for 6 solid months so ive switched to a wagtail squeegee and wagtail swivel mop. i have lightened the alloy part of the wagtail mop by drilling many holes in the aluminium, im looking to make it the very lightest mop/applicator i possibly can .
Title: Re: Like a wagtail?????
Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on October 22, 2010, 11:28:50 pm
http://www.shineline.co.uk/xcart/product.php?productid=16316&cat=0&page=0&featured=Y

Anyone used one or similar.How many others are there that are similar to a wagtail???

NO, it's nothing like the wagtail mike. It's a rigid, reversable traditional mop & blade.


The wagtail flipper (with a better pad fitted) IMO is the best trad revolution in years. Wouldn't be without them. Lighter, faster & easier! ;)
Title: Re: Like a wagtail?????
Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on October 22, 2010, 11:35:00 pm
i started getting carpal tunnel from using a Wagtail flipper for 6 solid months so ive switched to a wagtail squeegee and wagtail swivel mop. i have lightened the alloy part of the wagtail mop by drilling many holes in the aluminium, im looking to make it the very lightest mop/applicator i possibly can .

 ;D ;D ;D

Made me smile. I've suffered from CTS for years & the swap to wagtail flippers made things much easier on my wrists!

Title: Re: Like a wagtail?????
Post by: d s windowcleaning on October 22, 2010, 11:36:27 pm
this is more like a ettorre backflip than a wagtail , wagtails are the bizz .
all reight tony
Title: Re: Like a wagtail?????
Post by: G Griffin on October 22, 2010, 11:56:41 pm
doesnt look like it will swivel . looks heavy too

Says it has a swivel handle.
Title: Re: Like a wagtail?????
Post by: NJWindowCleaning on October 23, 2010, 03:55:03 pm
Most standard size which is nice to use would be for me a 14 inch and a 22 inch in which you can only get at the moment is 18 inch wagtail for large glass.

But I do find the valcro on the wagtail either need replacing or use something else that hold the mop on it instead of it peeling of and falling to the floor. :D:D
Title: Re: Like a wagtail?????
Post by: Ian_Giles on October 24, 2010, 10:52:36 am
Some replies have been deleted.

Please stay on topic, if you wish to discuss the merits of poles then please start a separate thread.

Also please be aware that bad language/swearing is forbidden. Use of asterisks or a slight change in spelling makes no difference, if spotted your post will be removed.

Ian
Title: Re: Like a wagtail?????
Post by: Ian_Giles on October 24, 2010, 11:16:40 am
This one isn't at all like a wagtail, it does have a swivel joint and is a useful, if heavy [ish] tool.

The wagtail is the bee's knees, the one I use is the flipper and wouldn't go back to an applicator and separate squeegee for all the tea in China.
Once you've mastered the technique of using it, it is miles faster and more efficient than using 2 separate tools.
It's less messy with regards to excess water too, is the ideal tool to use with a pole, especially on shop fronts etc.
Although due to its design, it can often mean you need to spend a little more time on detailing.
The Wagtail isn't cheap...although to look at it, it sure as hell looks cheap and flimsy, but it's worth every penny.

If you are a carpel tunnel sufferer, try to use your fingers more to rotate the wagtail, I've let other window cleaners have a go with mine and noticed they use their wrists to rotate the wagtail as they would a normal squeegee, which actually made them look extremely awkward.

I've always kind of assumed that a wagtail user would instinctively adapt their technique to swivel the wagtail more with the fingers as they got the hang of it, but perhaps that isn't always the case??

Ian
Title: Re: wagtail flipper -whats your experience
Post by: zimzam on October 24, 2010, 12:20:27 pm
I was just looking at buying one of these.are they any good?
Title: Re: Merged topic; Like a wagtail? + wagtail flipper - what's your esperience?
Post by: zimzam on October 24, 2010, 08:22:25 pm
sorry meant this:

http://www.soapnational.co.uk/acatalog/clearance-items.html