Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Matthew JN on October 21, 2010, 07:35:54 pm
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What does anyone else think is an acceptable payment time for a customer to post a cheque ?
I think 14 days which i have been trying to work to for the last 3 years. I very rarely collect unless it is seriously late.
But lately it seems i always have a percentage that are paying late - sign of the economic times maybe ??
Seriously thinking about collecting all within 3 days of each clean - or is this a bad decision ?
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Funny you should post this as I getting a few slow payers as well ... thinking of adding the following line to my we called today slip "Please pay within 5 days" or summitt along those lines.
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no its not a bad decision collecting is very good for cashflow but is time consuming, and could be a backward step for your business in that way
i have a large chunk sending cheques usually some very quick others then filter through over next fortnight or so
others at minute i collect on day straight after work at tea time ish , trouble is if you go home early or something, but im gonna start leaving saes if theyre not in on the day or i go home
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I just send them a text saying 'payment is still outstanding' They usually pay within a few days.
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yup definately dont go back to collecting as too time consuming as Im still having to do it on 1 of my rounds ... not too bad if you dont have many customers but would be a nightmare for the bigger rounds
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i put 3 days to pay on my slips, but its just ignored, usually the same ones every time.
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I have on my slips:
Terms - Please pay within 14 days - Thank You. And i leave a labelled envelope with slip stapled to it.
But there are always some that don't and at the worst point i have approx £300 outstanding, with lame excuses like - oh i lost the slip etc.
I think RGs idea is good - a reminder text message at the 14 day point. I just wish i had a super software program that could see when a payment had become late and automaticaly send the text message to the customwer from its database.
Mine is all on a spreadsheet and i just count back to the date of the clean to see if it is late.
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I have on my slips:
Terms - Please pay within 14 days - Thank You. And i leave a labelled envelope with slip stapled to it.
But there are always some that don't and at the worst point i have approx £300 outstanding, with lame excuses like - oh i lost the slip etc.
I think RGs idea is good - a reminder text message at the 14 day point. I just wish i had a super software program that could see when a payment had become late and automaticaly send the text message to the customwer from its database.
Mine is all on a spreadsheet and i just count back to the date of the clean to see if it is late.
Window cleaner pro will do that for you
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I also find the same few are slow to send cheques.
I have payment required within 7 days in big red lettering on my slips - makes no bloody difference.
Have found offering bank transfer payment has helped, although I am usually running at upwards of 1K owing.
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£1k owing - yikes that's a lot. That would really hit my cashflow.
So Window cleaner pro chases late payers for you - have been considering it over the past couple of months but didn't think it could do that.
What i really is a T2 cyborg that i can just program with all the late payers and send it on a mission to get the money lol
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It is continually around the 1k mark, it keeps money coming in all the time, once you are at that point it doesn't harm the cash flow as it is budgetted for.
Probably is a large debt list for a one man band.
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I notice no one charges interest for late payment.Is this a no go area due to potentially losing customers?I basically get rid of the late payers if they become an hassel once ive received the money of course.
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Your windows have been cleaned today,
If you wish to pay via Internet banking
Please use my details below.
Sort code ..................
Account No. ....................
Please use your house number & post code
As your reference ( NOT YOUR NAME)
Or make cheque payable to .................
With your address on reverse.
Thank you.
phone numbers
PLEASE COULD YOU PAY THIS WITHIN 3 DAYS.
this is the slip i use .... and most post within the 3 days,
i dont think 14 days is acceptable when you can train them up to pay earlier.
ps. i dont collect at all. ;)
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£1k owing - yikes that's a lot. That would really hit my cashflow.
So Window cleaner pro chases late payers for you - have been considering it over the past couple of months but didn't think it could do that.
What i really is a T2 cyborg that i can just program with all the late payers and send it on a mission to get the money lol
sorry ment it tells you when it is overdue
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£1k owing - yikes that's a lot. That would really hit my cashflow.
So Window cleaner pro chases late payers for you - have been considering it over the past couple of months but didn't think it could do that.
What i really is a T2 cyborg that i can just program with all the late payers and send it on a mission to get the money lol
i always have a grand + or there abouts, but its my fault , i am tooeasy on them but im sick of it now, its time i got paid for my work on time like everyone else, it shouldnt be a part of the job, so i will be much tougher and set out the terms and stick to it, anyone who doesnt will be binned, i reckon 99% will be ok though, i have a good rapport with all my custys and they will respect the changes im sure, by end of 2011 i wont be collecting and will be getting paid instant if not before via standing orders
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get out there and collect guys if your round is very compact!most of my round is in one area.its took years mind to hone most of the work into a 8 mile radius but my cashflow is good apart from august and jan when it slows up a bit due to xmas and summer hols.
average time spent collecting is 90 mins once a week.keeps good custy relations and gets me work plus better cashflow!
of course i leave sae for stand alones and im starting to get a few bank transfers now which is good.
some of you guys are just lazy arses! ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D
dazmond
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I dont think its laziness Daz,
Collecting is a job on its own for a lot of guys , and most hate it after a full weeks slog.
No, i think it makes sense in this day and age to use every available method to get your money in,
I collected for 2 months only, and i thought i aint doing this ever again.
trained them all up to send cheques , internet banking, leave somewhere, or pay at the time of clean.
To me , that gives the customer plenty of options to pay.
I made it clear the only thing i do NOT do, ... is collect .
And now i dont collect on anyone at all.
Its not laziness , its making your working life as easy as possible, and running your business to suit you..... not your customers,
whom actually owe you the money, after you have provided them with a service. ;)
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work smart not hard
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i havent collected in about 3 yrs, if it comes to me having to go around and get the money off them, then that will be the last time i see them, thank you very much! they get around 3 calls/texts, then a call round, then dump!
lifes too short to go collecting, you clean their house for 20mins then collect off them another 20mins? time = money.
i doubt collecting keeps custies happy and loyal, just rock bottom prices daz as you have admitted b4?
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my prices are not the best but new work is better plus its very compact.the chances are mate itll be you losing a lot of work in future IF you charging too much!! ;) ;D ;D
i tend to go collecting on a monday or tuesday evening not at the end of the week.
im doing very well in fact better than ever!but still room for improvement of course!
very tough economic times and there going to get worse.if your charging top dollar you will lose custies and get undercut!lots of newbies about and their not packing it in winter anymore!!
dazmond
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I have also had a increase of slow payer. I give them 7 days but I will soon charge extra after 7 days.The problem if they pay late they think you are comming to soon again.
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I also find the same few are slow to send cheques.
I have payment required within 7 days in big red lettering on my slips - makes no bloody difference.
Have found offering bank transfer payment has helped, although I am usually running at upwards of 1K owing.
Pretty similar to my own experiences.
It's quite a while since less than £1k was outstanding and it can occasionally nudge £2k. However, much of this is from several cleaning companies who I subcontract from. Without that work it would normally be £500 to £1k. The difference is that over the past year, I have noticed an increase in slow payments from domestic customers. They pay up fine when I see them but some seem to have a block when it comes to envelope/stamp/cheque. Offering bank transfer has helped with some of these customers but so far, a lot haven't taken this up. In fact, the ones who have taken this up were mostly good, reliable payers already. I think I may need to be a bit pushier about this but there is always the concern about losing customers. Perhaps I need to replace them first in case they cancel when I start pressing a bit for payment.
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do you guys put a stamp on your envelopes?i do and that seems to speed things up a bit.i also find a lot of custies not interested in bank transfers at the moment.prefering instead to pay cash/cheque.
dazmond
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I put pay within 3 working days on bottom of my slips, May as well put 'pay whenever you like' ::)
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What plans have you got for when cheques are not used anymore?
Call back?
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What plans have you got for when cheques are not used anymore?
Call back?
Standing order
Bacs
Pay up front or on the day
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Am just putting the final draft on my 'your windows have been cleaned today' card and on that they are advised that if I have to contact them for late payment a admin charge will be added to their bill...so they can pay late if they want but I am not prepared to extend them credit at my expense.
Most of my dom is 14 days to pay which in anyone's book is more than enough time to make a internet bank payment.
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Funny you should post this as I getting a few slow payers as well ... thinking of adding the following line to my we called today slip "Please pay within 5 days" or summitt along those lines.
I say 'please pay within 7 days' on my slips Ian and it works well with most. If money comes in later people often write a note apologising for being late. Still got some slow so and so's.
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Hey Guys,
Currently have 210 debtors at £5829.50
That hurts!!
A.J
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Front of my new card....
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I put a post up about this a few months ago? i cant remember. Anyway since then i have taken out my slips that said 14 days and written on the flap on envelope "Please send within 7 days"
Its been working so will keep on :)