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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Richy L on October 18, 2010, 05:13:52 pm

Title: Where's your tank?
Post by: Richy L on October 18, 2010, 05:13:52 pm
Has anyone put their tank on one side of the van?
Would it be too dangerous because of the weight on one side?
(It would be a 650ltr tank by the way)
Title: Re: Where's your tank?
Post by: darren clarke on October 18, 2010, 05:16:04 pm
al long as u dont go around corners u will be ok,  but it across the middle up against the bulk head
Title: Re: Where's your tank?
Post by: Lee GLS on October 18, 2010, 05:35:50 pm
across the middle up against the bulk head



same here
Title: Re: Where's your tank?
Post by: Richy L on October 18, 2010, 05:40:34 pm
The reason I mentioned it is becasue it if goes against the bulkhead it will be in the way of something else.
I may have to get a flat tank and use the space above it.
Title: Re: Where's your tank?
Post by: jarvy on October 18, 2010, 06:27:40 pm
Must be mad,cant see that being very safe. Also you will have the best part of 700kg on one side of the van,wont be good for the suspension.
Title: Re: Where's your tank?
Post by: mlscontractcleaner on October 18, 2010, 07:45:52 pm
We have ours across the back over the rear axle>
Title: Re: Where's your tank?
Post by: rg1 on October 18, 2010, 08:19:06 pm
For safety reasons it would be very unwise to put a 650litre tank on one side of your van, unless you have a counter weight on the other side.
Title: Re: Where's your tank?
Post by: [GQC] Tim on October 18, 2010, 08:20:16 pm
The reason I mentioned it is becasue it if goes against the bulkhead it will be in the way of something else.
I may have to get a flat tank and use the space above it.

Your suspension will be dangerously overloaded on one side. Have you driven behind a lorry where the load had shifted to one side? And every corner you feared it was going to fall over? That's exactly what will happen to your van.

With the tank like that you will be having an accident, guaranteed. Don't do it.  :D
Title: Re: Where's your tank?
Post by: erithwc on October 18, 2010, 08:23:31 pm
what about but two new tanks and have two 300 ltr tanks one each side
Title: Re: Where's your tank?
Post by: tacky on October 18, 2010, 08:56:07 pm
as erith said u can get tanks to fit over wheel arches ( in side van )they r called saddle tanks i think .or get a fat git to sit in passenger side
Title: Re: Where's your tank?
Post by: traps7 on October 18, 2010, 09:08:40 pm
Has anyone put their tank on one side of the van?
Would it be too dangerous because of the weight on one side?
(It would be a 650ltr tank by the way)

 I mean like this ...


Don't mean to be rude but surely the answer is obvious. That set up would just be dangerous. It's just common sense surely.
Title: Re: Where's your tank?
Post by: Frankybadboy on October 18, 2010, 09:13:22 pm
also if you got pulled over by vosa they would have a frill day with you.
Title: Re: Where's your tank?
Post by: mileslake on October 18, 2010, 10:26:49 pm
I should wear a GOOD crash helmet
Title: Re: Where's your tank?
Post by: gewindows on October 18, 2010, 10:30:31 pm
The reason I mentioned it is becasue it if goes against the bulkhead it will be in the way of something else.


If you put it to one side it'll be in the way of something else, oncoming traffic.
Title: Re: Where's your tank?
Post by: Blue Frog Systems on October 18, 2010, 10:36:34 pm
Mines behind the seats in the middle (though it pretty much goes all the way across)

One side = bad idea.... Get a layflat tank and build a frame ove it to store your other stuff
Title: Re: Where's your tank?
Post by: geefree on October 18, 2010, 10:42:20 pm
I did not think you would be able to have that much weight over the axles,

may be wrong as mine is a 650l tank, and was told the correct place is where some of you guys tanks are ,.. behind the seats/bulkhead.......as that is the strongest part of the load area, and the correct balance for the van,


Told by the guy doing my M.O.T


Title: Re: Where's your tank?
Post by: Richy L on October 18, 2010, 10:44:21 pm
Like I said, the reason I mentioned it is because I want to use the space behind the bulkhead for something else. I didnt think anyone would have put it to one side. 300 on each wheel arch sounds good though. I think I'll look into that. I should get my new van in a couple of days so I'm think of the best way to kit it out and maximise the space.
Title: Re: Where's your tank?
Post by: Richy L on October 18, 2010, 10:45:03 pm
I did not think you would be able to have that much weight over the axles,

may be wrong as mine is a 650l tank, and was told the correct place is where some of you guys tanks are ,.. behind the seats/bulkhead.......as that is the strongest part of the load area, and the correct balance for the van,


Told by the guy doing my M.O.T




I better check that first then!
I assume two tanks to go over the wheel arches are expensive ... is that right?
Title: Re: Where's your tank?
Post by: Craig Trevain on October 18, 2010, 10:57:24 pm
Baffles would be the wrong way.
Title: Re: Where's your tank?
Post by: Blue Frog Systems on October 18, 2010, 11:13:42 pm
Gardiners used to sell saddle tanks... not sure of they still do
Title: Re: Where's your tank?
Post by: tomy jackson on October 19, 2010, 02:29:16 pm
its not an a fence to over lode one side of van ,trust me ,but youd have to be puddled to do that
Title: Re: Where's your tank?
Post by: rg1 on October 19, 2010, 03:32:43 pm
its not an a fence to over lode one side of van ,trust me ,but youd have to be puddled to do that

Are you sure ???  I think you will find it is illegal as the weight would not be evenly distributed over the axles.
Title: Re: Where's your tank?
Post by: tomy jackson on October 19, 2010, 04:39:54 pm
yes as long as your not over weight on the axels frunt & rear ,but all weight to one side thers note in the trafk regs ,and this comes from my fiting days as one of the gangs had a van put over the way scal at gidersum by minesty of transport ,and it wos put on it 4ways frunt axel rear ax and near side weells and off side weells ,the out cum wos 1 ton moor on os weells ,and nothing that thay do /. >:( ??? ??? ??? ??? thats the minesty men  :( :( :( :( :( >:( >:( >:( ??? ??? ??? ??? :'( :'( :'( :'(/
Title: Re: Where's your tank?
Post by: Richy L on October 21, 2010, 02:18:51 pm
How about this?
Im thinking of an upright tank. If i put where shown on the pic the boxed wheel arches will give it some support, but how could I make it stable and safe? I wouldnt want the tank to fall over if i brake hard!

Does anyone else have a tank there?
Title: Re: Where's your tank?
Post by: Wc Solutions on October 21, 2010, 03:19:15 pm
what about but two new tanks and have two 300 ltr tanks one each side

that would be ok - maybe have them over the whell arch?
Title: Re: Where's your tank?
Post by: Nathanael Jones on October 21, 2010, 03:50:31 pm
How about this?
Im thinking of an upright tank. If i put where shown on the pic the boxed wheel arches will give it some support, but how could I make it stable and safe? I wouldnt want the tank to fall over if i brake hard!

Does anyone else have a tank there?
Having the tank there is probably the best place for stability & weight distribution.
Also,.. in a crash you have a bit of space for movement (when the tank frame distorts) before it gets near the passenger compartment. Upright tanks fitted right up against the bulkhead do worry me a bit!
Title: Re: Where's your tank?
Post by: Richy L on October 21, 2010, 03:58:28 pm
what about but two new tanks and have two 300 ltr tanks one each side

that would be ok - maybe have them over the whell arch?
I've had a look at those. They are three times the price, and there isn't enough room for them.

What is the best way to secure a tank as in the picture?  There are eye bolts types things fitting in the van in the perfect place for the tank, but would a carefully positioned ratchet strap or two be enough?
Title: Re: Where's your tank?
Post by: Dave Willis on October 21, 2010, 04:44:19 pm
Sorry if I've missed something previous, but depending on your tank size would you be overloading the back axle? What is the max allowance for that axle?
Title: Re: Where's your tank?
Post by: Richy L on October 21, 2010, 05:08:31 pm
The tank will be 500 litres.
Title: Re: Where's your tank?
Post by: Richy L on October 21, 2010, 07:52:13 pm
... Does anyone else have their tank in this position?
Title: Re: Where's your tank?
Post by: rg1 on October 21, 2010, 07:59:33 pm
its not an a fence to over lode one side of van ,trust me ,but youd have to be puddled to do that

Dave, You missed this critical point :)