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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: mfwindowcleaner on October 10, 2010, 03:44:28 pm

Title: making the leap to wfp
Post by: mfwindowcleaner on October 10, 2010, 03:44:28 pm
looks like we are in for another harsh winter up here and was thinking about wfp especially for ups .
water is really soft up here so was wondering how i should start
Backpack?
Trolley?
most of my customers are really fikle but as im getting more and more new customers i was wondering would it be worth starting the new ones on wfp only, that way i can eventually move over to wfp totally
so in a nutshell what is the best /cheapest backpack or trolley out there and should i just go the harris (make my own pole) way
how did the wfp guys make the leap ??
Title: Re: making the leap to wfp
Post by: cat9921 on October 10, 2010, 03:55:49 pm
I made the leap from a trolley then I got a trailer and now a van system .... Its difficult to say what you need as some prefer trolleys and others prefer van systems  ::)

So the best thing is get a trolley system and if you need to up grade you can just add a bigger tank and you have a van system  ;)

Adders  ;D
Title: Re: making the leap to wfp
Post by: darren clarke on October 10, 2010, 03:58:18 pm
just go straight to van system,  its easier
Title: Re: making the leap to wfp
Post by: mfwindowcleaner on October 10, 2010, 04:05:12 pm
problem with a van system is alot of my residential work is in terraced houses with communial gates to the backs ... cant be bothered with all the hose work etc..
i know trolleys hold more water than b/packs
are b/packs heavy when full ???
Title: Re: making the leap to wfp
Post by: darren clarke on October 10, 2010, 04:10:20 pm
all depends on the person,  sme as are some poles heavy  a trolly seems the best bet for you
Title: Re: making the leap to wfp
Post by: cat9921 on October 10, 2010, 04:23:40 pm
problem with a van system is alot of my residential work is in terraced houses with communial gates to the backs ... cant be bothered with all the hose work etc..
i know trolleys hold more water than b/packs
are b/packs heavy when full ???

Buy a garden backpack and fill with 18lts then walk round and do a pole motion and see if you can cope  ;D

Blue monkey says go straight to a van system and i would 100 % agree

I know you say there are a lot of houses and you cannot be bothered to drag hoses all over the place but when you have to get back to fill up all the time this too is a bigger an inconvenience than moving a hose

Adders
Title: Re: making the leap to wfp
Post by: Wc Solutions on October 10, 2010, 06:21:59 pm
van mount is def best BUT  for now as you are just starting out with it i would get a cheap bpack from john hewitt eg esr 16, dont wear it on your back tho - nightmare. has a good handle to just carry it round and just put a length of hose on it.

then when you have got the hang of it and customers are happy with it then go for the van mount, that way the bpack just becomes a hany tool if the hoses from van are a pain for certain jobs ....
Title: Re: making the leap to wfp
Post by: mfwindowcleaner on October 10, 2010, 06:39:30 pm
van mount is def best BUT  for now as you are just starting out with it i would get a cheap bpack from john hewitt eg esr 16, dont wear it on your back tho - nightmare. has a good handle to just carry it round and just put a length of hose on it.

then when you have got the hang of it and customers are happy with it then go for the van mount, that way the bpack just becomes a hany tool if the hoses from van are a pain for certain jobs ....
cheers m8   good advice
been on his website .. some good suff on there
next question ..... wheres the cheapest for a good di unit ???
Title: Re: making the leap to wfp
Post by: Llaaww on October 10, 2010, 08:06:40 pm
van mount is def best BUT  for now as you are just starting out with it i would get a cheap bpack from john hewitt eg esr 16, dont wear it on your back tho - nightmare. has a good handle to just carry it round and just put a length of hose on it.

then when you have got the hang of it and customers are happy with it then go for the van mount, that way the bpack just becomes a hany tool if the hoses from van are a pain for certain jobs ....
cheers m8   good advice
been on his website .. some good suff on there
next question ..... wheres the cheapest for a good di unit ???

Try not to think "cheapest". The step from trad to wfp can bring better money quicker, if you take some of the tips on here you can make a sound investment in some kit that will pay for itself quickly and get you earning more in no time at all.

Don't waste any time with cheap poles. Get a carbon pole, they are in a class of their own.

http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/catalogbody.html



Title: Re: making the leap to wfp
Post by: mikecam on October 10, 2010, 09:41:36 pm
problem with a van system is alot of my residential work is in terraced houses with communial gates to the backs ... cant be bothered with all the hose work etc..
i know trolleys hold more water than b/packs
are b/packs heavy when full ???

Back packs are heavy when full. If you can't be bothered with hose work then i can't see how you're going to get around the problem of doing rows of terraces at the back. If you're using a back pack you'll be back and forth and filling up like a blue arsed fly. I have a van mount and a back pack , i also have a round that comprises of terraced houses and i could really do with a trolley for it. If your round consists of terraced houses i would say go for a trolley system.
Title: Re: making the leap to wfp
Post by: Dave Anderson on October 11, 2010, 07:38:30 am
If you're going down the backpack route..also buy a sack trolley..ta da...it's now a trolley..

Cheers
Dave.
Title: Re: making the leap to wfp
Post by: Wc Solutions on October 11, 2010, 03:12:30 pm
van mount is def best BUT  for now as you are just starting out with it i would get a cheap bpack from john hewitt eg esr 16, dont wear it on your back tho - nightmare. has a good handle to just carry it round and just put a length of hose on it.

then when you have got the hang of it and customers are happy with it then go for the van mount, that way the bpack just becomes a hany tool if the hoses from van are a pain for certain jobs ....
cheers m8   good advice
been on his website .. some good suff on there
next question ..... wheres the cheapest for a good di unit ???

heres what i would say mate:

poles are good from gardiners ...

backpacks are good and cheap from john hewitt...

all water making stuff including good resin is daqua...

trad bits windowcleaningcentre or cleaningspot .... with trad bits most places aint too bad to be honest
Title: Re: making the leap to wfp
Post by: dazmond on October 11, 2010, 07:20:45 pm
good quality trolley mate(freedom)/8 barrels and a clx 22ft gardiners pole/ twin 11L DI S and 30ft of extension 5mm hose.then you ll be good to go!! ;D ;D


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