Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: the bfg on October 01, 2010, 09:53:26 pm
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Deborah Meaden on why you should stick with what our customers love us for and not go off in different directions trying other things.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11440401#
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Couldnt agree more.
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told u that mate. :P
so stop stripping for a living. :P :P :P
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thank god no more conny roofs
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so stop stripping for a living. :P :P :P
I don't do that for a living I do that cos I'm troubled ;D ;D ;D ;D
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;D ;D
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so is now a good time to ask her about an idea i have ;D or
maybe I'll ask her next time i clean her windows lol
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so stop stripping for a living. :P :P :P
I don't do that for a living I do that cos I'm troubled ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
should i get the white jacket now...... ;D ;D ;D
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Deborah Meaden on why you should stick with what our customers love us for and not go off in different directions trying other things.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11440401#
Sorry BFG But I will have to disagree with you one this one ::)
The reason is it depends on what the job is that you do.... If the TAX man or traffic warden thinks we love them and are encouraged not to change job then we are all doomed ;D
Adders ;)
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hi glynn hows tricks?
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Deborah Meaden on why you should stick with what our customers love us for and not go off in different directions trying other things.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11440401#
Sorry BFG But I will have to disagree with you one this one ::)
The reason is it depends on what the job is that you do.... If the TAX man or traffic warden thinks we love them and are encouraged not to change job then we are all doomed ;D
Adders ;)
adders.
do you know who your talking to here :D
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hi glynn hows tricks?
Not too bad son ;)
Just getting ready to go to work as I have not worked a lot this week :'(
and I bet you have mastered the WFP by now ;D
Where would you be without it
Adders
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adders.
do you know who your talking to here :D
Your not the tax man are you :'(
I was joking about people hating the tax man, In fact I love paying tax more then anybody :-*
And I have always thought aquatech was great ;)
Adders
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
havent got a clue who that aquatech bloke is but he sounds like a real cool dude :D
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hi glynn hows tricks?
Not too bad son ;)
Just getting ready to go to work as I have not worked a lot this week :'(
and I bet you have mastered the WFP by now ;D
Where would you be without it
Adders
yes thanks to you , can never go back to the old way.
got through a load of poles though , ifind that the alloy from brodex is best .
you still do the ones by the light ? ido look out for you but your never there when i go past.
sorry bfg for highjacking you thread , last one from me
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Good advice from DM. This is why I will always be a trad windy. :)
John.
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wasn't Debra meaden bailled out by Peter Jones a few years back? I believe her holiday parks were on the verge of bancruptcy.
And she also pes me off on that programme, so as far as her advice is concerned, I'm out.
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I just love seeing the people succeed that they havent backed.
It boils down to exposure. Whether they back you or not.
In the grand scheme of experts, if they were, you would think that they would all agree. Isnt that what experts do.
Debra Meaden I believe "fell" into the industry because of her family already being in that industry. Not started on her own. Another "expert" was another lady that was on there, but the BBC had to ask her to leave because she had had a failed company, and they didnt think it was fit to advise other people.
But I do love seeing people make a success of themselves, without the patriot of money. Great.
Trouble with Debra, she will not take risks, dosent see a bigger picture. Where as I think Peter Jones does, he looks further than the immediate. They are all very different people.
They all have contacts in different sectors, leisure, retail, It, transport, communications.
So they see an opportunity, and think right I have these contacts that I can sell to.
I like the inventors ideas, that physically make something
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DEBORAH ANNOYS ME AND IS A MINO COMPARED TO THE OTHERS.
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Yep
Reason being shes not ever started a business on her own, family led
She may have gained experience, notice she never ever takes risks
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You have to look into where the financial back up has come into with this dragons den crap
Whose made it on their own, whose made it on family finance,
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and for that reason... I'm out! ???
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Im out too
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ohh everybodys comming out :o
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Its a family business you dont automatically become an expert, for me her demure is not to invest unless its a cert.
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I just love seeing the people succeed that they havent backed.
It boils down to exposure. Whether they back you or not.
In the grand scheme of experts, if they were, you would think that they would all agree. Isnt that what experts do.
Debra Meaden I believe "fell" into the industry because of her family already being in that industry. Not started on her own. Another "expert" was another lady that was on there, but the BBC had to ask her to leave because she had had a failed company, and they didnt think it was fit to advise other people.
But I do love seeing people make a success of themselves, without the patriot of money. Great.
Good post katie.This is my angle on this and what you say.
Deborah talks out of her kilt, hardly ever invests, and has seen her business dip too.She's likeable enough but hard to take seriously as an expert.So i agree with what you say.
The one who went bankrupt i have little more time for.I read her book, her company was called red letter days and she virtually invented an industry sector.Some large retaillers picked her brains, went to the final signing, and then did it in house to give her a royal screwing.Thats all by the by.What i took away from her was that she spent a great deal of money designing a box so that her customers (who were basically buying a ballon ride/parachute jump/some kind of present experience, for someone else) had a physical thing to actually give on the day.(birthday/xmass/etc)
I translated this into my business and gained an unbelievable response.
Your second point about people succeeding despite lack of investment is a bit silly.They only invest in businesses whose return is meteoric.
For example the guy who had the glass of wine got roasted.Since then he's done very well and is stocked in 600 M&S's (that's more that even dave cleans).But upon the resvisit it still didn't stack as an investment. The guy will do well and they gave him a hard time when he didn't deserve it, but it still wasn't a great investment.
Trouble with Debra, she will not take risks, dosent see a bigger picture. Where as I think Peter Jones does, he looks further than the immediate. They are all very different people.
They all have contacts in different sectors, leisure, retail, It, transport, communications.
So they see an opportunity, and think right I have these contacts that I can sell to.
I like the inventors ideas, that physically make something
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Hi slump
The original person that created red letters, has been on Dragons Den but they had to export her because they didint feel that she was enabled to offer business advice. The business didnt fair as well as it should have done
Im not so sure whether Red Letters is trading I dont know
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i've got her book upstairs, i'll go and have a look.I think one the big stores has red letter days.
She earns a living on the after dinner circuit.I think the book is about failure.
I have another book by matt haig 100 brand disasters.Thats prettty good too.
A really great book, a best seller, was from my kitchen table to coffee republic.They took a concept from NY to UK.
Made a lot of money, a brother and sister, but mostly they have shut, been franchised, and moved away from the concept to selling food..
A couple of people have made oodles at what you do kate.
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ok
The woman created a brand, she was offering a service. A day out, go and treat yourselves. But the market moves on. Youve got tons of companies now offering Ferrari tours, offering this and offering that. Her idea is now outdated. I work for a company also that does Ferrari tours around Italy.
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I think i was trying to say that you can learn off people who fail too.And some of her innovations struck a chord with me and i was able to make a practical application that put me in front of other window cleaners.
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ok
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I was agreeing, but commenting that this is an area of interest for me, where i have read most of the books by most of the characters.All businesses have an expansion phase and then in later maturity problems.
The ones that keep going- like coke- or like mcdonalds, are amazing.
Ref ewans comment, a few on here think they've done quite well.On re veiwing the uk wc pitch one sentence struck me;
" I started four years ago with £300.Last year we turned over i.5 million....
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Phew Slump now taken a deep breath
Depends what your goals are? What you want to achieve?
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Slump I couldnt read your replies too well with quotes and stuff, prob my eyesight,
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well i wont hit the 1.5 million.
But would like to do my business in a more perfect way than anyone else.
I like the theorie's and the real life examples. I like business models.Let me give you an example.
Tobacco.
Grow it for a cent, sell it for a dollar.It's addictive.
Now that's a business plan.The body shop is pretty much this.