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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: richard roderisk on September 29, 2010, 09:57:05 am
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JUST WONDERING HOW LONG IT WOULD ROUGHLY TAKE TO GET ABOUT 200 CUSTOMERS, DROPPING LEAFLETS AND DOOR KNOCKING?
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hi there richard
To be honest there are too many variables to give any kind of accurate answer to this question.
Some say 1 custy per hour of door knocking and i have found on average this to be about right.
I dont bother doing flyers though, so i cant comment on that!
hope that helps a little mate
regards G.B
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I don't bother door knocking so can't comment on that.
You will get a 1% return with a simple black and white flyer.
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How long is a piece of string mate. All you can do is put in the hours, pounding the pavements until you've achieved what you want.
Some day's you'll strike lucky and pick up a load of customers, other days you'll struggle to pick up one - swings and roundabouts!!
Get out there mate and best of luck; unless of course you live in Plymouth where every house is taken and you'll be wasting your time ;D
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As already posted it's hard to be precise, but I knocked doors earlier in the year and was getting around 2 custys per hour. A lot depends on whether the street where you are knocking already has a window cleaner in which case it's harder to find the work. The opposite applies if you get lucky where there is no window cleaner.
As for leaflets, I find it a waste of time. It's too hit and miss in my opinion, knocking doors is far more productive.
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As already posted it's hard to be precise, but I knocked doors earlier in the year and was getting around 2 custys per hour. A lot depends on whether the street where you are knocking already has a window cleaner in which case it's harder to find the work. The opposite applies if you get lucky where there is no window cleaner.
As for leaflets, I find it a waste of time. It's too hit and miss in my opinion, knocking doors is far more productive.
Nonsense.
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As already posted it's hard to be precise, but I knocked doors earlier in the year and was getting around 2 custys per hour. A lot depends on whether the street where you are knocking already has a window cleaner in which case it's harder to find the work. The opposite applies if you get lucky where there is no window cleaner.
As for leaflets, I find it a waste of time. It's too hit and miss in my opinion, knocking doors is far more productive.
Nonsense.
Really? How would you know as you've never done door knocking ???
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Really? How would you know as you've never done door knocking ???
I refer to your statement that flyers are a waste of time and are a hit or miss.
I have never bought or sold anything on a door step.
Every one of my customers is through either flyers or referrals.
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Form B, I was talking from personal experience and not generalising. :)
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Form B, I was talking from personal experience and not generalising. :)
Fair enough, but from my personal experience you can build a solid customer base from flyers.
The main advantage flyers have over door knocking is that the customer contacts you which (I am generalising) tends to mean that they were more inclined to want a window cleaning service. As opposed to someone who (again, generalising) you have switched the charm onto and convinced that they need your service.
I don't deny that you will probably pick up more quicker by knocking on doors. I just think it's silly to rule out a cheap and relatively easy alternative altogether.
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Form B, I was talking from personal experience and not generalising. :)
Fair enough, but from my personal experience you can build a solid customer base from flyers.
The main advantage flyers have over door knocking is that the customer contacts you which (I am generalising) tends to mean that they were more inclined to want a window cleaning service. As opposed to someone who (again, generalising) you have switched the charm onto and convinced that they need your service.
I don't deny that you will probably pick up more quicker by knocking on doors. I just think it's silly to rule out a cheap and relatively easy alternative altogether.
I was just going to post this. The customer who comes to you is "normally" a better one.
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black and white or glossy ??? which do you find works best, i have been using glossy and getting calls but thinking of trying b&w. do you still post in the rain and get calls ??? i don't like knocking as they mostly end up 1offs
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All I did was give an opinion based on my own personal experiences which may differ in other parts of the country. ???
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black and white or glossy ??? which do you find works best, i have been using glossy and getting calls but thinking of trying b&w. do you still post in the rain and get calls ??? i don't like knocking as they mostly end up 1offs
I use a simple B&W slip. 1% return no matter the weather.
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you could get that many custys in 3 months or 6 months depends how much time you put in,its easy go out at first but i find when you are out all day dropping leaflets and get very few calls it puts me off going out again,id say from my experience that 1% success rate is quite alot from leaflets alone
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thanks form b, i will try b&w and i will keep on going in the rain ;D
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Dont stop for the rain mate, not even when your cleaning! (unless its heavy) if you dont wanna work in the rain your really in the wrong trade mate, and you should persue something indoors in a wet country like briton!
regards g.b
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i dont stop for rain, i would get wet before i get stuck indoors, just seeing if others still posted in rain as some dont like to.
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wheres about in Cheshire are you Richard ?
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always leaflets and referals never door knock now, got a few 1 offs from door knocking but with leaflet i find they stay with u and WANT your services.as 4 200 in 3-6months no chance. took me 2YEARS to build up to that level and am in the cheshire area....
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Dont get wet, buy some rain proof clothing! ;)
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to get 200 custies you need 300 because this proportion will cancel/move/be one off.
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wheres about in Cheshire are you Richard ?
macclesfield mate
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Took me approx 4 months to get 70 customers thru leafleting and canvassing ... then I cheated and bought some work :D ...
my experiance is that leafleting is for people not in a rush where as door knocking is more rapid response so if you in a hurry just door knock and only leaf a leaflet if there out but then go back and knock em when theyre at home.
one thing leaflets are good for though if you do a mass drop you soon find out what area needs a window cleaner ..... not done this myself yet but going to do a 20000 to 30000 drop in spring next year ... expect to get about 50 proper customers from that.
(not doing Wrexham though Gav m8 ;D )
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All this talk about working in the rain!!! I am trad and do not fancy slippy rungs.
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All this talk about working in the rain!!! I am trad and do not fancy slippy rungs.
i used to be tradational and never slipped on rungs due to wet feet! get some proper grippy walking boots/shoes!
but at the end of the day, dont risk your health & safety if you dont feel safe mate!
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Form B, I was talking from personal experience and not generalising. :)
Fair enough, but from my personal experience you can build a solid customer base from flyers.
The main advantage flyers have over door knocking is that the customer contacts you which (I am generalising) tends to mean that they were more inclined to want a window cleaning service. As opposed to someone who (again, generalising) you have switched the charm onto and convinced that they need your service.
I don't deny that you will probably pick up more quicker by knocking on doors. I just think it's silly to rule out a cheap and relatively easy alternative altogether.
This is exactly why i built up my whole business on leaflets.
The customer asks you, you are in control. I was in sales for years, and i know if someone approached me to buy/quote, i was in!!
Even now, i wait for people in the street or new neighbours in the street im cleaning to approach me, ill say morning etc, but will wait for them to ask me about window cleaning.
Yes it may take a bit longer, but ive built a real solid business up this way.....i still drop around 80k leaflets a year (use a company to deliver them), and am already outgrowing my 2nd van!!!
maybe door knock to get the cash flowing, then mass drops to get a solid base.
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All this talk about working in the rain!!! I am trad and do not fancy slippy rungs.
i used to be tradational and never slipped on rungs due to wet feet! get some proper grippy walking boots/shoes!
but at the end of the day, dont risk your health & safety if you dont feel safe mate!
I do work in light rain but as soon as it gets to a constant downpour I pack in. MOst customers cannot stand you doing them in the rain anyway. It does not matter how many times you tell them that the rain does not make any difference, they are paying my wages so I do not want to pee too many of them off.
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always leaflets and referals never door knock now, got a few 1 offs from door knocking but with leaflet i find they stay with u and WANT your services.as 4 200 in 3-6months no chance. took me 2YEARS to build up to that level and am in the cheshire area....
thats a bit of a sweeping statement I had 200 customers in well under 4 months
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All this talk about working in the rain!!! I am trad and do not fancy slippy rungs.
i used to be tradational and never slipped on rungs due to wet feet! get some proper grippy walking boots/shoes!
but at the end of the day, dont risk your health & safety if you dont feel safe mate!
I do work in light rain but as soon as it gets to a constant downpour I pack in. MOst customers cannot stand you doing them in the rain anyway. It does not matter how many times you tell them that the rain does not make any difference, they are paying my wages so I do not want to pee too many of them off.
But they are not paying your waged if they wont let you work in a bit of wet weather! ;D
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In my area I usually get more then 1 pr hour.
But I can get a phone call a year later, they keep the business card that you deliver.
Yesterday there was this guy calling about some prices I had left him for almost a year ago.
And now hi is going to his 36 neighbour to ask if they also want a deal :) They use another company today.
I am amazed on how long people can keep those cards, so I always leave one business card and one leaflet.
Now for my self, I will almost just do sales until I reach 3 full time workers for me :)
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@ ola normann...
hi there, i am just wonderedin, have you got to the stage where you are just canvassing now and your off the tolls with employees?
sounds good if that the case thats what i wanna do in the end i recon!
Many regards G.B