Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: the bfg on September 24, 2010, 07:04:26 pm
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Had to put the van in today for its m.o.t and when the garage called me I needed a cup of sweet tea to help me through the shock.
failed on several things with a bill of just under £800 to get it back on the road, work on it wont be completed until Monday so will lose a day in the final week of the month which only rubs salt in the wound,
however to put things into perspective we were on our way back from a quote in Milton Keynes today when we passed a lamp post with fresh flowers and cards tied around signaling some poor soul had lost their life in a road accident or similer.
although my £800 bill was not nice I can still go out and earn that meaning just how lucky it is to be alive and able to go out to work.
there is always someone sealing with more serious things than you, enjoy life and take the mis-haps in your stride.
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VERY TRUE
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:o ;)
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I am with you on this one mate, got to make the most of every day
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Not to mention having the funds to pay for the work immediately. ;)
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well I had just been paid of a couple of my contract jobs but was gonna invest some of the money back into the business on some new work but best laid plans eh,
although its put paid to that I'm still gonna try and enjoy the weekend and who knows I bought a lottery ticket for this evening ;D
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£800 for an MOT! Good grief! How old is it? What did it need? A new floorpan?
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its an 04 Vivaro
brake discs
brake pads
fuel leak
nearside inner track rod and ball
offside inner track rod and ball
there were more lesser things but I cant remember them all
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Excellent post bfg. I also try to always remember that whatever life throws at you, there is always somebody suffering more. :-[
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its an 04 Vivaro
brake discs
brake pads
fuel leak
nearside inner track rod and ball
offside inner track rod and ball
there were more lesser things but I cant remember them all
I can't believe that those parts and labour to fit add up to £800.
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well my mate is the manager of the garage and I know he wouldn't rip me off
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think yourself lucky i couldnt work today because ive been to the doctors and i might have suspected appendicitis in a lot of pain at this very moment might have to be rushed into hospital later i wish i had the £800 bill instead :( :(
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£800 sounds a lot, but spread it over a year and think of all the work it generates and thats not so bad, and as you said could be worse mate
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NOT ALL FLOWERS are wot they seam as oll bill put em out to slow the trafik ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
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simler thing 2 weeks ago clutch gone slave gone exhaust gone rear brakes and bad oil leak all in all roughly £1800 53 transit i was sat at home head in hands wondering what the hell to do. then the news come on another 19 year old killed in afgan suddenly i just wasnt bothered about the van no more in fact i took the system out the next day and swapped it.
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sound far too much mate.i reckon the garage near me would charge me no more than £300-£400 for the repairs listed!im in the north west though.
dazmond
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its an 04 Vivaro
brake discs
brake pads
fuel leak
nearside inner track rod and ball
offside inner track rod and ball
there were more lesser things but I cant remember them all
I would do all them jobs myself and get my mate to get the parts at trade price. garages make a massive amount on retail price for parts on top of their labour costs. I always get the mot failure then take it somewhere else for repair or do it my self if I can spare the time
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I ended up with a £1200 bill once and it wasn't even on an MOT.
Major service, cambelt change, and steering pump were the bulk of it.
Mind you, that was the very last time I went to a main dealership. The labour charges were £80+ an hour and they do tend to invent things - or at the very least, replace stuff too soon.
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the thing is I just have to take my medicine and look forward to Monday when the van will be back on the road and I can get back out there and start earning again.
I have a couple of phone calls to make this morning to customers who I booked work in with for today and then god dammit I'm gonna make sure I find something to feel good about this weekend.
I'm gonna start by wishing everyone a great weekend, wow I'm feeling better already ;D ;D ;D
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Wont the discs skim ??
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Wont the discs skim ??
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It never ceases to amaze me the amount of experts on this forum.
How from a post can people say that the cost of repair is too much?
Perhaps the fuel leak is coming from a shot fuelpump?, that would soon bang up the price.
Why skim brake discs? Are the same people saying these things the ones who claim to spend top money on kit so they aren't a cowboy and expect their customers to pay top dollar?
Probably the reason why myself, and some of the older members very rarely visit and post here anymore.
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It cost me £3,500 to get my taxi replated a few years back. Thats the taxi equivilent of an MOT.
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When it comes to cars Im an expert .... motor trade for years and years before getting into window cleaning and skimming is a reconised repair method certainly by Toyota and other manufacturers and done under warranty for new cars with warped discs but can equally well be applied to older discs that are warped but within tolerences for refacing when it comes to an alternative to replacing with new discs ... saves money which can only be a good thing ... not all discs can be skimmed though so maybe did need replacing ... only the techy at the time could have known but defo not cowboyish to skim instead of replacing.
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Citroen Berlingo from 1997, barely anything ever goes wrong, and if something does I can fix it myself easily. Flies through the MOT. Nice van, even though the paint is faded, I will be hanging on to it for a bit longer.
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When it comes to cars Im an expert .... motor trade for years and years before getting into window cleaning and skimming is a reconised repair method certainly by Toyota and other manufacturers and done under warranty for new cars with warped discs but can equally well be applied to older discs that are warped but within tolerences for refacing when it comes to an alternative to replacing with new discs ... saves money which can only be a good thing ... not all discs can be skimmed though so maybe did need replacing ... only the techy at the time could have known but defo not cowboyish to skim instead of replacing.
thanks for that insight mate, I didn't have a clue what skimming meant as I know very little about cars as its never been my thing.
what my mate did point out and maybe this is why he's putting new discs on is the fact the van carries over a TON of water each day and when I brake I need to know I'm gonna stop.
I did notice the last few weeks when slowing down I need to press on the brakes more and more.
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When it comes to cars Im an expert .... motor trade for years and years before getting into window cleaning and skimming is a reconised repair method certainly by Toyota and other manufacturers and done under warranty for new cars with warped discs but can equally well be applied to older discs that are warped but within tolerences for refacing when it comes to an alternative to replacing with new discs ... saves money which can only be a good thing ... not all discs can be skimmed though so maybe did need replacing ... only the techy at the time could have known but defo not cowboyish to skim instead of replacing.
thanks for that insight mate, I didn't have a clue what skimming meant as I know very little about cars as its never been my thing.
what my mate did point out and maybe this is why he's putting new discs on is the fact the van carries over a TON of water each day and when I brake I need to know I'm gonna stop.
I did notice the last few weeks when slowing down I need to press on the brakes more and more.
Yes that's usually the best way.
It's the pedal in the middle.
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Yes that's usually the best way.
It's the pedal in the middle.
pedal in the middle eh Mongo ? even though its an automatic ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
candygram for Mongo candygram for Mongo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8ciVBQixpU
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NOT ALL FLOWERS are wot they seam as oll bill put em out to slow the trafik ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Not this one mate.
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When it comes to cars Im an expert .... motor trade for years and years before getting into window cleaning and skimming is a reconised repair method certainly by Toyota and other manufacturers and done under warranty for new cars with warped discs but can equally well be applied to older discs that are warped but within tolerences for refacing when it comes to an alternative to replacing with new discs ... saves money which can only be a good thing ... not all discs can be skimmed though so maybe did need replacing ... only the techy at the time could have known but defo not cowboyish to skim instead of replacing.
That's rubbish, no garage in the modern era skim break discs. My nephew is a technician and a mate is the service manager at a main dealer. Your talking like you worked in a back street garage
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Garages don't skim brakes because they would rather rip you off by selling you new ones. When we had a Rolls Royce wedding car the RR main agent skimmed the brakes on it. If its good enough for RR its good enough for a van.
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Is it me but can't you often just replace the pads? May be discs every third set?
I know discs get scored but the pad soon takes the shape oF the score marks.
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Is it me but can't you often just replace the pads? May be discs every third set?
I know discs get scored but the pad soon takes the shape oF the score marks.
Exactly right! My wife's car is 14 years old with over 100,000 miles on the clock. Still on the original discs. The reason is we take it to a little family run garage, father and son, that doesn't top you up all the time.
New discs are one of the easiest top ups for garages seeking to add a bit to the bill. And they can play on your heartstrings "ah well its a safety issue, does your wife drive the car? do you carry your kids in it?"
After years of owning and driving taxis there is little you can tell me about garages and their tricks/cons/ripoffs/ outright fraud.
There was a story a few weeks back in one of the motoring papers about a bloke who was told by his garage his car was due for a new cam belt. They charged him £300. It was only later he found out his engine didn't have a cam belt
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There was a story a few weeks back in one of the motoring papers about a bloke who was told by his garage his car was due for a new cam belt. They charged him £300. It was only later he found out his engine didn't have a cam belt
bet the bloke in the garage felt really stupid when he couldn't put the cam belt on then ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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THERE WAS A BIG BIT ABOUT DODGY GARAGES ON WATCHDOG LAST WEEK EVEN THE BIG BOYS DO IT NAMELY KWIK FIT.
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Speaking of watchdog did anyone see that Locksmith or thats what he called himself, he got 4 years for ripping everyone off. brilliant
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Speaking of watchdog did anyone see that Locksmith or thats what he called himself, he got 4 years for ripping everyone off. brilliant
are you on a laptop from your cell mate. :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
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yeah and theve took me bleedin drill off me ;D ;D ;D ;D
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When it comes to cars Im an expert .... motor trade for years and years before getting into window cleaning and skimming is a reconised repair method certainly by Toyota and other manufacturers and done under warranty for new cars with warped discs but can equally well be applied to older discs that are warped but within tolerences for refacing when it comes to an alternative to replacing with new discs ... saves money which can only be a good thing ... not all discs can be skimmed though so maybe did need replacing ... only the techy at the time could have known but defo not cowboyish to skim instead of replacing.
That's rubbish, no garage in the modern era skim break discs. My nephew is a technician and a mate is the service manager at a main dealer. Your talking like you worked in a back street garage
Skimming warped brake discs to within manufacturers wear tolerances used to be fairly common years ago.
A lot of garages nowadays only want to replace parts and don't want to bother or know how to skim brake discs. :(
Ian sounds like he does know what he's talking about ;)
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When it comes to cars Im an expert .... motor trade for years and years before getting into window cleaning and skimming is a reconised repair method certainly by Toyota and other manufacturers and done under warranty for new cars with warped discs but can equally well be applied to older discs that are warped but within tolerences for refacing when it comes to an alternative to replacing with new discs ... saves money which can only be a good thing ... not all discs can be skimmed though so maybe did need replacing ... only the techy at the time could have known but defo not cowboyish to skim instead of replacing.
thanks for that insight mate, I didn't have a clue what skimming meant as I know very little about cars as its never been my thing.
what my mate did point out and maybe this is why he's putting new discs on is the fact the van carries over a TON of water each day and when I brake I need to know I'm gonna stop.
I did notice the last few weeks when slowing down I need to press on the brakes more and more.
Ton of water hmmmm when u put it like that yup new discs prob better idea skimming just delays the eventual replacement and no point in taking a chance with a ton of water behind your head .... thinking back I dont think we ever skimmed discs on vans .... ;)
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When it comes to cars Im an expert .... motor trade for years and years before getting into window cleaning and skimming is a reconised repair method certainly by Toyota and other manufacturers and done under warranty for new cars with warped discs but can equally well be applied to older discs that are warped but within tolerences for refacing when it comes to an alternative to replacing with new discs ... saves money which can only be a good thing ... not all discs can be skimmed though so maybe did need replacing ... only the techy at the time could have known but defo not cowboyish to skim instead of replacing.
That's rubbish, no garage in the modern era skim break discs. My nephew is a technician and a mate is the service manager at a main dealer. Your talking like you worked in a back street garage
Skimming warped brake discs to within manufacturers wear tolerances used to be fairly common years ago.
A lot of garages nowadays only want to replace parts and don't want to bother or know how to skim brake discs. :(
Ian sounds like he does know what he's talking about ;)
yup more money in selling and fitting new parts :)
glad no longer in trade window cleaning much more respectable ;D ;D
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If discs warp its due to heat,so skimmimg them makes them thinner and less able to handle heat.
So buy 2 new reasonably priced quality discs and clamp em on then job sorted or take off warped used discs,find someone that might skim them and refit a now inferior product plus pay to have them skimmed and mess about burning petrol/diesel and using up time while the quest for saving money is not reached.
Now if you have just warped 2 expensive ventilated discs on a cosworth and you are flogging it and want rid of the horrendous brake shudder then get a cheap skim job from your mate and flog it on,thats why brake disc skimmimg was popular in the motor trade.
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It never ceases to amaze me the amount of experts on this forum.
How from a post can people say that the cost of repair is too much?
Perhaps the fuel leak is coming from a shot fuelpump?, that would soon bang up the price.
Why skim brake discs? Are the same people saying these things the ones who claim to spend top money on kit so they aren't a cowboy and expect their customers to pay top dollar?
Probably the reason why myself, and some of the older members very rarely visit and post here anymore.
people come and go on here and in all walks of life ... new blood good for most forums however shame some older members feel that way but think it was also to do with posts being deleted / controlled and no critisim of ionics or talking about diy systems being allowed (apparently) as well as the newbies taking over the asylum ;D .... ive been over to the other forum that a lot of the older guys have moved to but Im not a poster on there.