Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: james roffey on September 24, 2010, 03:55:12 pm
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My two inch hose arrived today from Cleansmart i connected it up to see what difference it would make i plugged the machine in and turned the vac motors on, was a bit dissapointed because the vac strength was about the same as before then i realised i had not switched the other socket on and it was only running on two vacs :-[ with three running the difference was incredible, much more than i would have ever thought possible, it was powerful before but now like a different machine.
Did make me wonder why this machine is sold with 1.5 hose as the capabilties of this machine are much more than 1.5 hose provides, on a down side the hose is even more of a pain to roll up than before :( a job i detest but for the power its worth it.
Anyone using an Airflex turbo triple vac get yourself some 2 inch hose, cant wait to try it out on monday.
ps anyone want to but some 1.5 inch hose 75ft purchased new last November
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Get a 2" bore wand and you'll really see the difference, I didn't believe it but when I went 2" all the way down to the carpet the drying was immense.
I now use 2.5" pipe to a 2" wand.
Make sense?
Shaun
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i'm getting there :P Shaun what machine are you using?
I am astonished at the difference it has made i would equate it to like having easily a 30% increase and thats compared to the standard triple vac Airflex which was the most powerful porty i had ever used,would be interesting to compare the cfm to other machines and small truckmounts i have just got my glide on my 1.5 inch wand so invested in that for the time being unless i could use the glide on a new 2inch wand, more money ::)
its in a different class Compared to the old twin vac Ninja i used to have ;D
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james when i ordered my airflex i went to great pains to mention the fact that people on here had previously said the way to go was 2' hose and i was convinced by matt that it was not so important so now i am a little bit annoyed with matt that he did not sell me the larger size hose in the first place which i made clear at the outset that i was prepared to pay extra for, however having taken an instant likeing to both matt and sarah (posh bird) i have to say that i can forgive them as i believe their advice was given with the best of intentions but maybe i might now be able to get a good deal off them for some 2' hose
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I don't believe Matt would misadvise you but I don't believe he ever had a TM or 3 vac motored HWE when he was a carpet cleaner so he can't see the true benefits.
James I use a Hydramaster 327 so it's a little unfare to compare but I would have a lot of unused CFM so why not use it.
Shaun
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James
I have said on the forums before, when I changed the Scorpion from 1.5" to 2" it was an incredible change - like it began to breathe.
However, as good as the 3 vac machines on 2" are, the Prowler 13hp/15hp that I have used are better still.
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Colin
James wondered what the cfm compared like to a small tm.
A tm,even a "small" one is going to be more than a 3 vac porty and needs more consideration then say going from a 2 vac to a 3 vac - but some would disagree with that.
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Fair do's Joe.... :)
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I got my Airflex of a guy on ebay it had just 7 hours on the clock and i got 75 ft hose, wand, stair tool, airblower, and tons of unopened chemicals worth several hundred quid ;D for £2000 so i was delighted.
I was a bit aprehensive with Mat because i did not buy a new machine from him so i wondered how he would be, and i asked him at the time about getting some 2 inch hose he said what length of hose are you using at the moment and i told him 50ft he advised me that i should stick with the 50ft 1.5 inch, i mention this because he could easily have sold me some new hose but thought i would not benefit from it, thats true customer service :)
The service from cleansmart is second to none not that others like John at restormate and Nick at Solutions are not great too, but i now have a great machine and the company will not make a quick profit at my expense, and of course Sarah never met her but very professional and friendly as well.
Regarding the difference between the two hose sizes it was clear to me that the vacuum strength was greater i had both sizes to hand and switched them over to compare.
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I got my Airflex of a guy on ebay it had just 7 hours on the clock and i got 75 ft hose, wand, stair tool, airblower, and tons of unopened chemicals worth several hundred quid ;D for £2000 so i was delighted.
I was a bit aprehensive with Mat because i did not buy a new machine from him so i wondered how he would be, and i asked him at the time about getting some 2 inch hose he said what length of hose are you using at the moment and i told him 50ft he advised me that i should stick with the 50ft 1.5 inch, i mention this because he could easily have sold me some new hose but thought i would not benefit from it, thats true customer service :)
The service from cleansmart is second to none not that others like John at restormate and Nick at Solutions are not great too, but i now have a great machine and the company will not make a quick profit at my expense, and of course Sarah never met her but very professional and friendly as well.
Regarding the difference between the two hose sizes it was clear to me that the vacuum strength was greater i had both sizes to hand and switched them over to compare.
I had a similar chat with Matt. He said that they had tested 1.5" vs 2" and only really noticed a big difference on runs over 50ft. From what I've seen that seems right. When I run 25ft I can't really detect much difference in drying times, but over 50ft the 2" hose definitely makes a difference.
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Hi Shaun
What is a "Hydramaster 327"? ;)
Cheers
Steve
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Shaun
thought you had a 427 mate ?
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Are they reliable.?
Are the hevey
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Are they reliable.?
Are the hevey
Had an Airflex since November last year, no issues, the turbo weighs in at 48Kilos, I have taken it up stairs and the big wheels help but I don't make a habit of it. I've run in excess of 100' 2" pipe with no issues so it seldom see's a step.
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Simon
Really like your website mate.
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It all helps but I think some of it is in the mind.
Some TMers use 2.5 inch hose and drainpipe diameter wands. It's a bit like tuning your 140mph Skyline when the national speed limit is 70. I like being able to get round tight corners easily without hitting anything so prefer a 1.5 whip.