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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: james roffey on September 20, 2010, 09:08:24 pm

Title: safe or clean!
Post by: james roffey on September 20, 2010, 09:08:24 pm
Have you ever thought, i cant be bothered using a prespray that may work,  and be safe on this wool carpet, i am going to hit it with something i know will work and neutralise it with the extraction.
I know i have used Powerburst on wool many times, if i am honest its because i dont want to have to re do the carpet if i use something "safe" I still use M Power, and the prochem wool products and sometimes Ultimate master but when you see that trashed carpet i just want to start mixing some hot powerburst.
Am i slipping into bad habits?    :-[
Title: Re: safe or clean!
Post by: derek west on September 20, 2010, 09:14:20 pm
nope.
your becoming confident in your abilities. just double check before you go for it.
Title: Re: safe or clean!
Post by: elliott cleaning on September 20, 2010, 09:17:21 pm
No your not.  At the end of the day your client wants a clean carpet & that is what you have to give them.
All this business about damaging wool is blown out of proportion.  Ok, if you cleaned the darn thing week in week out with an aggresive product for wool, it might show sufferance - but a one off or once a year treatment won't reduce the lifespan of the carpet
Title: Re: safe or clean!
Post by: Simon Moat on September 20, 2010, 09:21:57 pm
Hi James,

When you've just gone for it how many times have you regretted your actions?

There's your answer.

Simon.
Title: Re: safe or clean!
Post by: Steve. Taylor on September 20, 2010, 09:33:52 pm
James classic example today cleaned a wool carpet in clean condition regular customer.

Method pureclean prespray warm water rinse BUT if it was a trashed wool carpet power burst all the way acid rinse. GO WITH WHAT YOU KNOW TO GET THE RESULT
Title: Re: safe or clean!
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on September 20, 2010, 09:43:00 pm
Ideally you would use a wool safe pre spray cleaner and then if not satisfactory you could go higher up the scale.

Shaun
Title: Re: safe or clean!
Post by: wynne jones on September 20, 2010, 10:04:26 pm
I've got wool carpet samples where I sprayed powerburst and just left in the sun to dry on. Just left them months. Nothing diferent.

There will always be one but this is where if you are not sure play safe comes in. Better to reclean than pay out £1000s

Some offerings from suppliers are really only good for clean carpets. ;D

 
Title: Re: safe or clean!
Post by: Griffus on September 20, 2010, 10:12:31 pm
Ideally you would use a wool safe pre spray cleaner and then if not satisfactory you could go higher up the scale.

Shaun

Agree with Shaun, it's a right pain but hit the worst bit first, check results and if no joy then have a chat with custy and explain that you need to up the ante. They'll always tell you to go for it.

I have a couple of wools to schedule in. One especially is covered in kiddies paint, whilst there surveying the easel was out with nothing but the carpet to catch the drips (big big drips). Can't exactly say I'm looking forward to the job!!

Title: Re: safe or clean!
Post by: james roffey on September 20, 2010, 11:25:11 pm
Can i ask if anyone has had an adverse reaction from using a high PH prespray such as powerburst on wool.
I never have but only been going 18 months, with the combined years of experience on here it would be interesting to find out if anyone has had a call back using Powerburst and f and f rinse on wool.
Title: Re: safe or clean!
Post by: wynne jones on September 20, 2010, 11:40:24 pm
I've got wool carpet samples where I sprayed powerburst and just left in the sun to dry on. Just left them months. Nothing diferent.


Title: Re: safe or clean!
Post by: John Kelly on September 21, 2010, 07:52:02 am
I have had to rectify many a carpet where browning has been the result of either over wetting or using too high a ph. This is confirmed by the use of a ph test. Wetting the affected carpet with distilled water then applying the test strip. Nearly everone had been cleaned using high ph. I would say the majority due to operator error rather than the chemical, however there are guys out there using the likes of Star Drops and TFR to clean carpets.
Title: Re: safe or clean!
Post by: Derek_Walker on September 21, 2010, 01:38:16 pm
I find a lot of the safe cleaning solutions will work on the grubbiest of carpets, so rarely find the need to use a very high ph product.
Title: Re: safe or clean!
Post by: David_Annable on September 21, 2010, 02:13:12 pm
Hi

Would you use TFR neat or dilutted. :D

Dave
Title: Re: safe or clean!
Post by: M.Acorn on September 21, 2010, 04:19:10 pm
Could have done with it on a job i did today,place had supposedly been cleaned by a company using a dry system,loads of marks,and stains,loads of piling,used Multi pro,the Ultra pac,and still not happy,they agy were aware that it might be a replacement job though
Title: Re: safe or clean!
Post by: Carpet Dawg on September 21, 2010, 06:25:30 pm
Funny that! I had a job yestarday that was cleaned by a "dry cleaner" a couple of months ago and looked like it had never been cleaned in 5 years! Came up good when i was done with it tho.
Title: Re: safe or clean!
Post by: wynne jones on September 21, 2010, 08:19:41 pm
The EOT Knockout Challenge.

In the red corner

Strong chemicals, knowhow and a truckmount.

In the blue corner

Little knowledge, p1ss weak ecochem, p1ss weak portie.

I know which one my moneys on. ;D
Title: Re: safe or clean!
Post by: M.Acorn on September 22, 2010, 08:04:24 pm
Well i got the news back after the minger i did,turns out that now they are dry,they look fine,and won`t need replacing,more brownie points
Title: Re: safe or clean!
Post by: wynne jones on September 22, 2010, 09:04:27 pm
nice one
Title: Re: safe or clean!
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on September 22, 2010, 09:53:39 pm
What about experienced operator with poor chem and light weight porty against inexperience with TM buffer and loads of chem?

Experience wins IMO.

Shaun
Title: Re: safe or clean!
Post by: wynne jones on September 23, 2010, 12:12:39 am
Yes my money would be on them too. I think however the less experienced (quite rightly) will not push it on the chem front and they would also have less flushing capacity.

Safe AND Clean AND Quick would be my motto. :)
Title: Re: safe or clean!
Post by: garyj on September 23, 2010, 12:17:33 am
Can i ask if anyone has had an adverse reaction from using a high PH prespray such as powerburst on wool.
I never have but only been going 18 months, with the combined years of experience on here it would be interesting to find out if anyone has had a call back using Powerburst and f and f rinse on wool.

Yes. Used Champion on a white wool carpet, luckily it was my own though. With advice ( from here I think ) I got it back to white!
Never have understood the chemistry behind it going brown and then back to white with acid rinse as when it happens it looks pretty permanent.

Oddly enough doing 100% wool tomorrow, still haven't decided what to use, one of the kids bedrooms has some marks on it, so probably Prochem Double Clean, might try M Power or play it safe and go with Wool Safe m/s.